Dobson vs. SpongeBob

Tide and True

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Radical cleric Dobson is at it again, it seems:

On the heels of electoral victories barring same-sex marriage, some influential conservative Christian groups are turning their attention to a new target: the cartoon character SpongeBob SquarePants.

"Does anybody here know SpongeBob?" Dr. James C. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, asked the guests Tuesday night at a black-tie dinner for members of Congress and political allies to celebrate the election results.

SpongeBob needed no introduction. In addition to his popularity among children, who watch his cartoon show, he has become a well-known camp figure among adult gay men, perhaps because he holds hands with his animated sidekick Patrick and likes to watch the imaginary television show "The Adventures of Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy."

Now, Dr. Dobson said, SpongeBob's creators had enlisted him in a "pro-homosexual video," in which he appeared alongside children's television colleagues like Barney and Jimmy Neutron, among many others. The makers of the video, Dobson said, planned to mail it to thousands of elementary schools to promote a "tolerance pledge" that includes tolerance for differences of "sexual identity."

"We see the video as an insidious means by which the organization is manipulating and potentially brainwashing kids," he said. "It is a classic bait and switch."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/20/politics/20sponge.html?oref=login&oref=login
 
He doesn't have a problem with Spongebob, he has a problem with the use of such a popular character in a video pushing the gay agenda. I agree with him wholeheartedly. This is nothing like the Teletubbie nonsense.

Do you want your pre-teens learning about homosexuality, or any sexuality, from Spongebob Squarepants?
 
jthomas666 said:
The fact that you draw attention to Tide and True's labelling of Dobson as a radical without making any real argument of your own is interesting.

hehe. So should I say, " the fact that you draw attention tome drawing attention to tts labelling of Dobson as a radical without making any real argument of your own is interesting?".

Why is it interesting? Dobson is a mainstream red-meat American. Ward Clever. The best of people. I have listened to his show and read his books. I dont see one thing radical about him. Barbara Boxer is a radical. Howard Dean is a radical.
I find it interesting that someone would refer to this man as a radical. Hide and Seek was one of the best books ever written on the subject of rearing children, for example.
 
NYBamaFan said:
He doesn't have a problem with Spongebob, he has a problem with the use of such a popular character in a video pushing the gay agenda. I agree with him wholeheartedly. This is nothing like the Teletubbie nonsense.

Do you want your pre-teens learning about homosexuality, or any sexuality, from Spongebob Squarepants?
Actually, the video is pushing that multi-culturalism tolerance muck. Not the gay agenda.

I do wonder though why can't schools simply concentrate on reading, writing, arithmetic, and social studies. No, they've got to throw all this other junk in on top of it and then complain they aren't getting enough money.
 
For basically the same reasons that bamabake mentioned, I can say, without bias, that James Dobson is not a radical.

Take the time to listen to him for a while or read one of his books and you'll understand. Or just stop reading the New York Times...whichever is easier.
 
Queasy1 said:
Actually, the video is pushing that multi-culturalism tolerance muck. Not the gay agenda.

I do wonder though why can't schools simply concentrate on reading, writing, arithmetic, and social studies. No, they've got to throw all this other junk in on top of it and then complain they aren't getting enough money.

you could probably work a 'respect for other people' unit into social studies somewhere.
 
Don't be fooled. This is not about acceptance of other cultures. This is about acceptance of homosexuality. They mix in the rest to get it through.

The makers of the video, Dobson said, planned to mail it to thousands of elementary schools to promote a "tolerance pledge" that includes tolerance for differences of "sexual identity."
I don't need my kids hearing phrases like "sexual identity" in elementary school, much less hearing that it is okay for boys to like boys. Kids are too easily confused...
 
blackumbrella said:
you could probably work a 'respect for other people' unit into social studies somewhere.
Hey, that's all fine and good but a music video with a 'tolerance pledge' singing We Are Family is a little over board.

You can find the video here if you are looking for it yourself.
 
NYBamaFan said:
Don't be fooled. This is not about acceptance of other cultures. This is about acceptance of homosexuality. They mix in the rest to get it through.
And your evidence for this is . . . ?
The video has appeared on television networks, and nothing in it or its accompanying materials refers to sexual identity. The pledge, borrowed from the Southern Poverty Law Center, is not mentioned on the video and is available only on the group's Web site.
So we have a video that
  • Explicitly promotes multiculturalism
  • Does not refer to sexual identity
  • Does not have any supporting material concerning sexual identity
And it's all about acceptance of homosexuality? Because the group's web site has a link their web site to a pledge that advocates tolerance for different sexual identities?

That's completely ignoring the legal ramifications of using characters from Arthur, Barney, Bear in the Big Blue House, Between the Lions, Blue's Clues, Bob the Builder, The Book of Pooh, Clifford the Big Red Dog, Dora the Explorer, Jimmy Neutron, JoJo's Circus, Kim Possible, Lilo & Stitch: The Series, Madeline, The Magic School Bus, The Muppet Show, The Proud Family, Rugrats, Sesame Street, SpongeBob SquarePants, and Zoom, among others, in a pro-homosexual piece.

That is, as they say, a bit of a reach.
 
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It's On A Slab said:
Freedom should mean: Mind your own d@mn business....something the social cons have no intention of doing.
Oh and social libs are experts at minding their own business? Surely you jest! Guess it is all a matter of perspective.
 
Queasy1 said:
Hey, that's all fine and good but a music video with a 'tolerance pledge' singing We Are Family is a little over board.

You can find the video here if you are looking for it yourself.
  1. That's not the video, but the tolerance pledge.
  2. The tolerance pledge is not in the video.
  3. The tolerance pledge is not in any of the supporting materials that accompany the video.
 
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