Elder update from al.com

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dayhiker

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Guys, the gun or no-gun on campus thread is the old Elder thread that is now on Non-Sports. Stay on topic or this will will join it.
 

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t's easy to claim someone just guess when they turn out to be right.
It's also easy to claim that some logic went into a wild guess when they randomly back in to guessing the eventual outcome as well.

The two of you have a very strong predisposition to believing that anyone that is arrested must be guilty. That thinking is far from logical and strongly disagrees with real world realities.
 

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I disagree. RGW came to the same conclusion that I did. This smacked too much of an open and shut case. It's easy to claim someone just guess when they turn out to be right. It doesn't really matter though. Has anyone taken a look at how this affects the two deep next year and in the future? That's my primary concern at this point.
Yeah, the bail amount smelled like a leverage chip to get him to confess. 120k is a HUGE bail for anyone to pay even for a class A felony charge. I believe in the legal system and the right to have your guilt proven...but common sense says that when you see a quick arrest and huge bail that usually equals "guilty as h-e-double-hockey sticks."
 
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Earle,

Here are a couple of real news articles with the latest significant info. I will close it after posting them. It is your call if you want to open it back up .

Bama's Elder out on bond
Swords also said that Elder apparently used a pellet gun in the incident, not a semi-automatic pistol that was listed in the deposition.

Swords said no date has been set for Elder's first appearance in court.

"Instead of going on assumptions," Swords said, "look at the circumstances, look at the facts and look at this thing in its entirety on what happened prior, what happened at the time of the incident and what Jeremy's involvement was and all the things that are included instead of just taking a few lines on a deposition and closing the book on a 19-year-old's life."

Swords also dismissed speculation that the incident was part of a college prank.

"I haven't heard anything that substantiates that," he said.
 

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Weapon was pellet gun, attorney said
Swords plans to apply for youthful offender status, which would seal the case from public record. Any defendant under the age of 21 is eligible.

A former Alabama offensive lineman in the mid-1990s, Swords said it is fitting that he is representing Elder. Swords also cautioned the public to let all the facts be known before rushing to judgment.

"There's a lot of things we don't know about what was going on with him, and what his involvement (was), and what were the things that were playing up and even had to do with after the incident," Swords said. "My goal is to hopefully take some time with his case and learn about the facts and circumstances in their entirety before rushing to judgment.
 
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