ADMIN NOTE: EVERYONE READ THIS! PTB want no more UA photos on our site

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GulfCoastTider

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I would ban him from here due to the conflict of interest alone. Someone may turn him in to UA for participating in threads that include copywritten material.
Counterproductive.

If we ever want UA to cooperate with us and allow Tidefans to display or link to images they generated, the last thing in the world we need to be doing is hanging Alex out to dry. Like that petition gaffe, it would hurt rather than help.
 

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Dust, nobody seems to be able to get through to you. You keep talking about their 'rights'. You keep saying that all we have to do is 'go thru proper channels'. You are coming from the perspective of someone is protecting his own rights with regard to the use of photos.

It can certainly be argued that UA has the 'right' to ask Tidefans not to publish any UA photos; but is it 'right' for them to do that? Is it wise?

"Going thru proper channels" might seem elementary to you, or to those others who post endless lines of computer-speak (gibberish to me, and to most); but I would never attempt to use such a language, any more that I would attempt Greek.

The question here, it seems to me, is what to do about the U of A's letter. I say DO NOTHING, other that to communicate to them how we think this is unwise and unworkable, and quite possibly very damaging to UA's reputation among loyal fans.

They should watermark their art, and they should respect and appreciate Tidefans.com, a website that is run "right" and produces huge amounts of fan interest (and money) for the University. Until then, we should continue to apply rules already in place, and we should continue to post photos that are not visibly copyrighted.

Seems simple to me...

PS: Do you seriously think it is a good idea to restrict our usage of photos to 'a couple of guys'? At present we have a couple of million guys to choose from; and we're not abusing their rights.
It's nice to see some good old fashion common sense brought into the thread.
 
Dust, nobody seems to be able to get through to you. You keep talking about their 'rights'. You keep saying that all we have to do is 'go thru proper channels'. You are coming from the perspective of someone is protecting his own rights with regard to the use of photos.

It can certainly be argued that UA has the 'right' to ask Tidefans not to publish any UA photos; but is it 'right' for them to do that? Is it wise?

"Going thru proper channels" might seem elementary to you, or to those others who post endless lines of computer-speak (gibberish to me, and to most); but I would never attempt to use such a language, any more that I would attempt Greek.

The question here, it seems to me, is what to do about the U of A's letter. I say DO NOTHING, other that to communicate to them how we think this is unwise and unworkable, and quite possibly very damaging to UA's reputation among loyal fans.

They should watermark their art, and they should respect and appreciate Tidefans.com, a website that is run "right" and produces huge amounts of fan interest (and money) for the University. Until then, we should continue to apply rules already in place, and we should continue to post photos that are not visibly copyrighted.

Seems simple to me...

PS: Do you seriously think it is a good idea to restrict our usage of photos to 'a couple of guys'? At present we have a couple of million guys to choose from; and we're not abusing their rights.
Sorry for being going over your head...

Proper channels, in this instance, is asking another source/photographer for permission to post their game photos. I know of at least one other photographer on this board (Not including Alex) that has photographed games this season. If that still sounds like gibberish, that's your problem, not mine.

I think the best either of us can hope for is agree to the fact neither of us is going to change the other's mind on this topic. I've stated my stance, you've stated yours, and I don't see us wavering one bit.
 

GulfCoastTider

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In short, two wrongs don't make a right.
Alex didn't do anything technically or legally wrong. He could have handled it better, but the man was just doing his job. He has no conflict of interest by being a member here. I'm sure there are many other students, faculty members and employees of the University with active accounts on Tidefans. Banning any of them for anything other than a violation of the site's policies would only raise their ire and create further animosity.

Brett and the administrative team have handled this with integrity and professionalism. Banning Alex is something that ITAT would do, not Tidefans.com.
 

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Alex didn't do anything technically or legally wrong. He could have handled it better, but the man was just doing his job. He has no conflict of interest by being a member here. I'm sure there are many other students, faculty members and employees of the University with active accounts on Tidefans. Banning any of them for anything other than a violation of the site's policies would only raise their ire and create further animosity.

Brett and the administrative team have handled this with integrity and professionalism. Banning Alex is something that ITAT would do, not Tidefans.com.
People have been banned for less.
 

GulfCoastTider

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So, can we post our own photos taken at the game or not? I guess this would include the videos taken at the game. How much of me do they own anyways? :rolleyes:
If you originated the photo or image, you can post it wherever you wish. You own it and you alone decide what others can do with it.

But be warned... I'm likely to fark it. ;)
 

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Counterproductive.

If we ever want UA to cooperate with us and allow Tidefans to display or link to images they generated, the last thing in the world we need to be doing is hanging Alex out to dry. Like that petition gaffe, it would hurt rather than help.
It's laughable that you think this kid means that much to the brass. He's a student employee for God's sake. One of hundreds.

I worked for the University when I was there, they could care less.
 

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As for the kid being banned, it doesn't matter either way. He will be ostracized by everyone but a few.

Perhaps that is a better punishment.
 

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If you originated the photo or image, you can post it wherever you wish. You own it and you alone decide what others can do with it.

But be warned... I'm likely to fark it. ;)
...and I'll drag the fark back up, copy it, and re-post it two or three years later in a different fark thread without crediting either you or GCT.

Sorry. It's a weakness. Sort of like grave robbing.:pDT_minzdr: :pDT_gy:
 

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...and I'll drag the fark back up, copy it, and re-post it two or three years later in a different fark thread without crediting either you or GCT.

Sorry. It's a weakness. Sort of like grave robbing.:pDT_minzdr: :pDT_gy:
Grave robbing? What kind of trophies are you guys sending home these days???
 

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Mods, I may have missed it, I read the first 14 pages & my pc kept crashing :frown:
Can we post pictures or links to pictures on the facebook page for Tidefans? since it isn't technically on Tidefans.... would that work - or also be considered an infringement?
Or post on our own facebook & link to the Tidefans fb page?
may be too much of a hassle to even fool with.
 

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Mods, I may have missed it, I read the first 14 pages & my pc kept crashing :frown:
Can we post pictures or links to pictures on the facebook page for Tidefans? since it isn't technically on Tidefans.... would that work - or also be considered an infringement?
Or post on our own facebook & link to the Tidefans fb page?
may be too much of a hassle to even fool with.
I don't care what you do or what kind of mischief you get into as long as tidefans isnt a party to it. It's really no simpler than that.
 

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EXIF Defined:

However, the EXIF data for that image shows that it was created at a time and date that are inconsistent with the time and date of the play in question. So not only can the EXIF data be useful for determining technical data about an image, it can also cast light on whether to believe what you're seeing...

Hope that helps.
A little more layman....I think.

The keywords are METADATA TAGS and are very common with music, video and picture files, more so with different codecs than others, and are automatically a part of the file. Most of the time you can view basic information about a file simply by right clicking your mouse on the file and selecting properties/details.

Metadata tags in .Mp3's are called ID3 and has information such as the title, artist, album and bit rate. Most people don't know the term ID3, but know those tags are there because many music players use them when the file is playing.

When you look at a picture in most image software you can view the time taken, shutter speed/Exposure, time and date. These metadata tags are made by the camera and built into the image file of most file types, like JPEG. If you want to fill in the name for copyright purposes, you need to fill that in later with software, or at least I haven't found a way to program that on my camera. This is your EXIF, just like the ID3 on MP3 files. METADATA TAGS.

Since 90% + of these tags were not created by the user, but the camera automatically, the date and time may be incorrect due to time zone, not setting the correct date in the first place.

Also, these tags can be doctored. So you can create a fake image and set the date to look like it was taken before the game. You can find this software on the internet.

So music and image file types have Metadata tags built into them automatically for the most part. If you want to add additional information, you need to do that with software. If you want to manilulate the automated data you can do that too. So like with anything on the internet, nothing is full proof.
 
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