Fauxcahontas: sit down and shut up!

[Bazza]

:biggrin2:

 

[Ledsteplin]

Yep! And Dana was absolutely right.

 

[Relayer]

Warren was "mitch-slapped". Hahaha.

 

[Bazza]

I liked when Dana said this:

And I’ll tell you this, the closest that her ancestors ever came to American Indians was rounding up my ancestors....

 

[Tide1986]

Warren was "mitch-slapped". Hahaha.

She's rather useless.

 

[seebell]

I'm glad I never watch NRA TV. I had to take a BC Powder after watching that.

Brief history of Rule 19

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...e-rule-that-silenced-elizabeth-warren/516042/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...very-loosely-enforced/?utm_term=.eb8a0689fc80

Are you aware that several Senators read the Coretta King letter the next day on the Senate floor without objection?
Are you aware that the Republican Senate rejected Sessions for a federal judgeship? I guess times have changed.

 

[Tidewater]

Are you aware that the Republican Senate rejected Sessions for a federal judgeship?

So, your position is that Session is a racist?

I guess times have changed.

Yeah, some time after "We'll just have to win, then."

One of the Democrats said "Rule 19 against criticizing a member of the Senate cannot apply when the subject of the debate is the fitness of a member as a nominee." I actually think this argument has some merit. I believe Rule 19 is to prevent a Senator from saying, "I oppose this bill and oh, by the way, Senator Leghorn is a scumbag."

 

[seebell]

So, your position is that Session is a racist?

Yeah, some time after "We'll just have to win, then."

I doubt if he is a racist. You agree that what I stated in my post is factual?

 

[gtowntide]

When I saw the word Fauxcahontas I thought it was a thread about Kellyanne Conway! Remember Bowling Green!

 

[CharminTide]

One of the Democrats said "Rule 19 against criticizing a member of the Senate cannot apply when the subject of the debate is the fitness of a member as a nominee." I actually think this argument has some merit. I believe Rule 19 is to prevent a Senator from saying, "I oppose this bill and oh, by the way, Senator Leghorn is a scumbag."

It was apparently instituted because a string of insults in 1902 led to a fistfight on the Senate floor. Artist depiction:

 

[Tidewater]

I doubt if he is a racist. You agree that what I stated in my post is factual?

If you refer to my posts related the current state of politics in the US to the collapse of institutions in the declining years of the Roman Republic, you will detect that I do not support any move by current incumbents that undermines the viability of our republican institutions. The institutions are more important than any particular decision.
Shutting Warren down is ungentlemanly and undermines collegiality.

 

[Tidewater]

It was apparently instituted because a string of insults in 1902 led to a fistfight on the Senate floor. Artist depiction:

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Here was the House version:

Charles Sumner was, well, unable to defend himself. In Massachusetts, being a wussy makes a guy a hero.

 

[seebell]

If you refer to my posts related the current state of politics in the US to the collapse of institutions in the declining years of the Roman Republic, you will detect that I do not support any move by current incumbents that undermines the viability of our republican institutions. The institutions are more important than any particular decision.
Shutting Warren down is ungentlemanly and undermines collegiality.

Thank you TW. Rarely do we find ourselves in agreement, but I do respect your opinion and admire your breadth of knowledge, to which mine pales in comparison.

 

[Tide1986]

If you refer to my posts related the current state of politics in the US to the collapse of institutions in the declining years of the Roman Republic, you will detect that I do not support any move by current incumbents that undermines the viability of our republican institutions. The institutions are more important than any particular decision.
Shutting Warren down is ungentlemanly and undermines collegiality.

And attacking another senator from the floor of the Senate with unfounded allegations is gentlemanly and promotes collegiality?

 

[Bazza]

It was apparently instituted because a string of insults in 1902 led to a fistfight on the Senate floor. Artist depiction:

Part of me would love to see some of them duke it out in a boxing ring once in a while....to walk the walk.....in addition to talking the talk.

 

[CajunCrimson]

And attacking another senator from the floor of the Senate with unfounded allegations is gentlemanly and promotes collegiality?

"Gentlemanly" is a sexist code word designed to subtly emphasize that women should not be senators. Therefore to refer to warren as being treated ungentlemanly is actually a compliment

I wonder if she invented Mazola.

 

[Tidewater]

And attacking another senator from the floor of the Senate with unfounded allegations is gentlemanly and promotes collegiality?

No it doesn't, but it keeps the Democrats in the wrong. I am not convinced that a thirty year old opinion from Coretta Scott King on Jeff Sessions is really relevant, but I do believe that Rule 19 cannot have the same relevance when the senator himself is the topic of debate. I would not cede to Mrs. King a veto on Federal judgeships (or, post-mortem, on UAGs) just because she was married to MLK. Warren's was a plain appeal to authority (invoking King's name).

For the same reason that speakers in a deliberative body orient their comments to the presiding officer ("Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the bill ...") not to their opponents. It helps maintain collegiality.

I do believe that the Left believes that DOJ is their toy to play with, and they are vehemently opposed to anyone that does not share their vision playing with their toy. While the DOJ has done some good, they have also committed a ton of wrong, often in violation of plain provisions of the US Constitution. It was created to ensure one party gained a partisan political advantage, and, while it has switched its partisan allegiance to the other party, it is still mainly oriented to maintaining one party's partisan political advantage.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I chuckled at the absurd notion that a letter written by a guy 25 years earlier thanking a prominent person for "saving me from the draft" was not to be taken seriously as an argument because that was so long ago but citing a 30-year old written letter by a dead person is to be treated as an ex cathedra statement from the Pope to the faithful.

I suspect both Warren and McConnell were playing to their bases.

Her status as a liberal icon now gets elevated to those nutbags who tend to control the nomination process in both parties - the ones who think the reason Hillary lost is she wasn't liberal enough. (Note: This is true in both parties; Trump was primarily the product of too many candidates splitting the actual right-wing vote).

 

[Bamaro]

Lose a battle, win a war.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

"Gentlemanly" is a sexist code word designed to subtlety emphasize that women should not be senators. Therefore to refer to warren as being treated ungentlemanly is actually a compliment

I wonder if she invented Mazola.

???


http://articles.latimes.com/1995-04-28/news/mn-59911_1_andrea-mazzola