Finebaum on Cowheard about the Auburn academic scrutiny

[Ramah Jamah]

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[Ramah Jamah]

Re: Finebaum on Cowheard right now

Well that was quick. Finebaum just basically recounted the API story, however he did mention that API is the most penalized school in the SEC and mentioned there were questions about why Carnell Williams committed to API two weeks after committing to Thugessee

 

[Bama Torch in Pcola]

Re: Finebaum on Cowheard right now

Then a couple of Barners call in to say Finebaum is a Bama shill. It's nice to know he's an equal opportunity offender.

It kills me how Colin can label football in the SEC as dirty and hold the Big10 & Pac10 up as beacons of light. If he thinks these two conferences are clean he needs to go back and check the history.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

I knew somehow they would try to turn this into a Bama hatred for Auburn thing. lol

Auburn investigation under way...

Auburn professor alleges fake classes

An Auburn University professor has charged that Auburn football players received favorable grades in classes that required no attendance and minimal academic work, according to a report Thursday evening by The New York Times.

Auburn University professor James Gundlach told The Times that 18 members from Auburn's undefeated football team in 2004 took 97 hours of "fake" sociology and criminology courses during their careers from professor Thomas Petee, the department's highest-ranking member.

 

[CrimsonCT]

I knew somehow they would try to turn this into a Bama hatred for Auburn thing. lol

Unfortunate for us, clever Auburn fans have already figured out the whole Bama-Tuscaloosa News-NYT-racist conspiracy. Our true agenda revealed in less than 24 hours!

I went over to autigers.com to try and read their side. I don’t know why I thought I might find anything reasonable or insightful over there, but I won’t make the mistake again. I had to get up and leave the computer to walk off the frustration.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Well since this thread already has Finebaum in it, I might as well throw in Scarbinsky's take on the matter. As usual he manages to squeeze in a jab at Bama where you least expect it.
I decided not to link his article. Why give him any of the good Tide Fans business. He said something to the effect of you can call this situation administrative incompetence or academic fraud, blah, blah, blah... but it doesn't amount to any NCAA violations. He also said that an Auburn University press release was an obvious and failed attempt to get ahead of the story, but "some damage already has been done." I guess serious internal questions from the Auburn administration about their athletes academic credibility is just "some damage" in the overall scheme of things down on the plains.

 

[bamanut_aj]

not interested in what finebaum has to say about anything.

 

[hawgtide]

Wonder where the state papers were on this story if rumors had been around all summer? Why did it take the NYT to break it. This is another academic black-eye for Southern schools that have a football tradition.(remember UT and GA) Sadly, when one school lacks academic integrity all lose image, rightfully or wrongfully. Auburn has done more than its share in the past few years to heap shame on the Alabama's higher ed institutions. :redface:

 

[sabanball]

I went over to autigers.com to try and read their side. I don’t know why I thought I might find anything reasonable or insightful over there, but I won’t make the mistake again. I had to get up and leave the computer to walk off the frustration.

On some of the AU boards I visited, they acted if there was no wrong doing at all...***?

 

[BamaArrived2006]

Wonder where the state papers were on this story if rumors had been around all summer? Why did it take the NYT to break it.QUOTE]

The prof called the NYT because he knew that someone from the state of Alabama probably couldn't get the story out, and by being in NYT it's national not regional/local news. Birmingham News vs New York Times, The New York Times are read country and possibly world wide while Birmingham News is read by the greater Birmingham area, NYT is a bigger deal and a better newspaper to have this released in, in my opinion.

:biga2:

 

[TiderinMiss]

not interested in what finebaum has to say about anything.

Same here.

I haven't listened to that media ho in two years and haven't read his articles in over a year.

All this stuff is mostly funny. This may not ever get to the NCAA's level, but who knows?

I do know this: The biggest damage Bama can do to them is on the field this year. Beating them would be the ultimate insult for those losers.

 

[Bama323]

Unfortunate for us, clever Auburn fans have already figured out the whole Bama-Tuscaloosa News-NYT-racist conspiracy. Our true agenda revealed in less than 24 hours!

I went over to autigers.com to try and read their side. I don’t know why I thought I might find anything reasonable or insightful over there, but I won’t make the mistake again. I had to get up and leave the computer to walk off the frustration.

It was the Auburn professor who called the NYT. Not Alabama.

 

[jthomas666]

Based on history, I'm not sure that the NCAA will get involved. As I posted elsewhere, the one thing that MIGHT get them into trouble is Petee's admission that non-athletes could not take the more advanced directed reading courses.

The more immediate danger to the Barn is SACS, with a secondary danger being in recruiting--any recruit or parent seriously interested in getting an education will be a bit more skeptical.

 

[TommyMac]

Based on history, I'm not sure that the NCAA will get involved. As I posted elsewhere, the one thing that MIGHT get them into trouble is Petee's admission that non-athletes could not take the more advanced directed reading courses.

The more immediate danger to the Barn is SACS, with a secondary danger being in recruiting--any recruit or parent seriously interested in getting an education will be a bit more skeptical.

I don't see that the ncaa has a choice. This is obviously a blatant attempt to circumvent the ncaa's APR policy, which they just recently implemented. If they don't take action, the APR is a joke.

 

[BamaBobo]

I don't see that the ncaa has a choice. This is obviously a blatant attempt to circumvent the ncaa's APR policy, which they just recently implemented. If they don't take action, the APR is a joke.

Man, I hope youre right! ROLL TIDE!:BigA:

 

[gigama]

At least this will drag on for a long time

This dark cloud isn't going anywhere for a good while. The whole country can now laugh at them as hard as we do. Let's just let SACS and the NCAA take their sweet time, and let the bad press and PR build. Our recruiting just improved dramatically. If Jim Harrick can get hung out to dry for what he did, then the barners have to be sweating. The best part is, this will only get worse. Who knows what other dirt is out there to dig up? This is too funny. The more they deny, the tighter the noose gets. No matter what the outcome, this is a huge kick in the sack for the barn, any way you want to spin it.

 

[Bama323]

Too bad we can't bring in a full class of 25 recruits this year. I have a feeling Auburn will feel the brunt of all this in recruiting.

 

[rgw]

Shula takes a strict no-negativism approach to recruiting and stays away from bashing schools vying for a recruit, but do you think that these reports could have an influence on the big in-state recruits that are deciding mainly between Bama and Auburn? Fear, uncertainty, and doubt could help us like it helped Auburn in 2000.

 

[cbi1972]

You don't have to be negative to promote Alabama academics in a positive way. Parents usually have a big influence over recruits' choices, and will be able to read between the lines when making comparisons between schools. I wonder if the Hawthornes are a little grumpy about this?