JessN: Five Questions as Spring Practice Nears End

[DzynKingRTR]

"Pro style offense" means something a lot different than it did 20 years ago. As you look around the NFL, what Deboer will run isn't an exotic or niche offense. Spreading the ball around and being wide open has become the norm. The NFL is typically the last place to evolve (high school is first and college second), but when Sayin is ready to attempt his try at the NFL, you are much more likely to see something similar to what Bama will be running than you will a team trying to pound the rock with the fullback and QB under center.

Ultimately, I think Sayin wanted to play for Saban and he may not have been sold on playing for someone who didn't recruit him. Ohio State probably was a close second in his recruitment and he felt more comfortable playing there.

There are still folks on this board that want to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust. These are the same people that think camping is fun.

 

[mlh]

Ultimately, I think Sayin wanted to play for Saban and he may not have been sold on playing for someone who didn't recruit him. Ohio State probably was a close second in his recruitment and he felt more comfortable playing there.

I think this is probably the case. I imagine it was a very thin line separating Bama/Saban from OSU/Day.

 

[mlh]

There are still folks on this board that want to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust. These are the same people that think camping is fun.

My HS coach once said our offense was 3 clouds of dust and a punt.

 

[JessN]

I found this intriguing and wonder why Jess believes this about Simpson.

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I think Simpson has the skills to be one-and-done as UA's starter. The question about Simpson from Day 1 has always been the mental maturity part of it all. I'm not saying he's out raising hell every night or is a bad citizen. We're talking about being cool under fire, learning from mistakes but ultimately forgetting about them in time for the next play, etc. The play a couple of years ago where he scrambled 70 yards for a TD, arguably dropped the ball before crossing the goal line, danced around the end zone and then got chewed out by Saban is sort of a microcosm of what we're discussing. I have been told by multiple people that this type of thing is far less an issue now than it was.

The comp that is sort of de rigeur at the moment is Bo Nix when he got to Oregon. Nix always had the ability but he couldn't put together the whole package for himself at Auburn. Then he got out to Oregon, got out of Pat's shadow and other things that may have been working against him at AU, and turned into a guy with an NFL future and did it in relatively short order. I see a lot of Bama fans bring up Mac Jones as a comparison point, and while some of Mac's cockiness appears to be present in Ty, I don't think their physical games line up. Ty is a far better athlete but Mac is both more accurate and seems to know when not to throw just as well as he does when to throw.

Yeah, I have no idea who started the rumor that CKD "encouraged" him to leave. When taking over a new team, you don't encourage 5-star QB's to leave. Sayin left because he wanted to, not because he was "encouraged".

I wouldn't say DeBoer "encouraged" him to leave but there were some guarantees that DeBoer wasn't willing to make. Everything's a negotiation in the modern game. In the end, my take on what happened is if Sayin had taken the attitude that he was going to show up and shoe up just like anyone else and compete for the position outright with no markers placed, he would have still come to Tuscaloosa. When that didn't happen, he decommitted. What made it more palatable for Bama was having Mack, who the DeBoer staff loved, sitting there eager to come with DeBoer.

 

[BamaMoon]

I think Simpson has the skills to be one-and-done as UA's starter. The question about Simpson from Day 1 has always been the mental maturity part of it all. I'm not saying he's out raising hell every night or is a bad citizen. We're talking about being cool under fire, learning from mistakes but ultimately forgetting about them in time for the next play, etc. The play a couple of years ago where he scrambled 70 yards for a TD, arguably dropped the ball before crossing the goal line, danced around the end zone and then got chewed out by Saban is sort of a microcosm of what we're discussing. I have been told by multiple people that this type of thing is far less an issue now than it was.

The comp that is sort of de rigeur at the moment is Bo Nix when he got to Oregon. Nix always had the ability but he couldn't put together the whole package for himself at Auburn. Then he got out to Oregon, got out of Pat's shadow and other things that may have been working against him at AU, and turned into a guy with an NFL future and did it in relatively short order. I see a lot of Bama fans bring up Mac Jones as a comparison point, and while some of Mac's cockiness appears to be present in Ty, I don't think their physical games line up. Ty is a far better athlete but Mac is both more accurate and seems to know when not to throw just as well as he does when to throw.

Thanks for sharing. Ironically, although their physical strengths may be different, IIRC, the thing that MJ struggled with was letting things go when he messed up. Didn't Sark call him "Mac-Enroe?"

I also remember hearing on this board that TS tried too hard to match Milroes "deep balls." It sounds to me like if TS would have had the maturity to realize he didn't need to match JM's long ball, but just complete 10 yard outs and crosses on a regular basis he might have won the job 2 years ago.

So maybe being out of JM's shadow has been the medicine TS needed the most!

 

[CaliforniaTide]

There are still folks on this board that want to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust. These are the same people that think camping is fun.

Sounds like my FIL...

 

[CrimSonami]

There are still folks on this board that want to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust. These are the same people that think camping is fun.

NOPE. Don’t care anything about going back to 3Yds and a Cloud but I DO enjoy camping. And I don’t mean turn the key and move kinda camping either. But I’ve been labeled a bit odd too.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

NOPE. Don’t care anything about going back to 3Yds and a Cloud but I DO enjoy camping. And I don’t mean turn the key and move kinda camping either. But I’ve been labeled a bit odd too.

so you enjoy pretending to be homeless?

 

[gtgilbert]

so you enjoy pretending to be homeless?

There are some pretty awesome places where there are no roads and the hike is more than you can do in a day.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

There are still folks on this board that want to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust. These are the same people that think camping is fun.

I loved the Lane Kiffin Offense, but I've also camped since I was a kid.
I'm the guy that everyone in the campground comes around to see what I'm cooking. Same thing when I was Tailgating.

Give me Bryce Young as QB and a strong OL., and I'm going to expect to win em all.

 

[VirginiaTide57]

My HS coach once said our offense was 3 clouds of dust and a punt.

You can't throw an interception on a rushing play!