Freeze fired at the Barn

[selmaborntidefan]

Nah. Dye was forced to resign which to me is the same thing as fired. It wasn't his choice. He was gone one way or another. He chose to toe the fambly line like a good booger fan.

Remember this: Dye was banned from appearing at Auburn for two full years as part of their NCAA probation. Roughly translated - disassociation.

AUBURN SACKED BY NCAA

Dye, forced to resign after the 1992 season, remains a special assistant to Muse.

 

[bamadwain]

Coach O is out there

 

[22Musso22]

Coach O is out there

 

[ua86]

ESPN article notes that Coleman could easily command 2 million a year on the open market...he's good, but I wonder if we need another talented receiver for that price? CKD will have to answer that question. According to a good friend who really knows football they do have several players that we would snap up in NY minute,

We might want to go looking down the Oline and Dline aisles before we chase a pricey WR. No idea what $2M gets you there though. You'd think the big uglies would be cheaper, but who knows in the Wild Wild World of NIL?

 

[Tideflyer]

Not a big surprise of course. I just wonder what happened with the Kentucky game. Did the players know as already?

It’s something of a surprise to me. I thought the barn would give him a shot at us, then act one way or another. Maybe because of all the turnover they had to go now.

 

[Tideflyer]

We might want to go looking down the Oline and Dline aisles before we chase a pricey WR. No idea what $2M gets you there though. You'd think the big uglies would be cheaper, but who knows in the Wild Wild World of NIL?

That’s where the real need is, IMO.

 

[Tug Tide]

Good buddy said the game last night reminded him of a funeral. Guess it was

 

[colbysullivan]

LSU, Florida, and even Penn State are all > than AU. It wouldn’t have mattered.

Which is why they should have fired him last year…

 

[arthurdawg]

And I don’t even count Price since he never coached a down

Honestly... Price was fired for moral failings and being a disgrace before he ever hit the field... A bit off the usual path

 

[arthurdawg]

That’s where the real need is, IMO.

Yes... We need to be much better on the OL.

You can never have enough DL, but we have pretty solid guys on the edges. If we could sign 1-2 disruptors on the inside I suspect our whole D would improve greatly. That and improving the LB corps.

 

[editder]

And in all honesty, Dye would have been fired had he not resigned. That whole charade was to get the NCAA to not hit them too hard for the Eric Ramsey scandal.

Then again, Mike DuBose was going to be fired had he not resigned, too.

However - as others have noted - it's always amusing that ALABAMA gets the bad rep as the school that chews up coaches and fires them Steinbrenner-style and yet that has never been true.

Prior to 1911, coaches at all schools generally were senior players who coached one year. In the last century - going back to Xen Scott dying while the coach - Alabama has only "fired":

- Ears Whitworth
- Mike Price
- Mike Shula

Now granted, Red Drew stepped down because of a loss of confidence in him and DuBose would have been fired had he not resigned, but the reality is that we don't have near the history of reflexive throwing the captain overboard that people like to allege.

Ray Perkins, Bill Curry, and Dennis Franchione all resigned and left at the height of their popularity on campus. One could argue so did Wallace Wade.

Frank Thomas took ill but remained the AD and Xen Scott died.

Bryant, Stallings, and Saban all retired never to coach again. And as I said, you can't "really" count the coaches prior to 1911 because you didn't have coaches in the same sense we do today. But the brutal fact is we've had just as many retire (3) as we've fired (3).

And Mike Price wouldn’t qualify as a coach that was chewed up and fired Steinbrenner-style anyway. DuBose had plenty of non-football stuff going on, too.

 

[CrimsonTheory]

I go on vacation for a week with the family and LSU AND Auburn fired their head coaches? Maybe Kelly goes to Auburn because that school loves "big name coaches" and Freeze goes to LSU because once upon a time, his teams beat Saban and Bama twice.

With that said, I think Auburn should give up on the football thing. They are not very good at it. They should stick to baseball and diving.

 

[64 Grad]

Their timing is bad. Probable should have waited until after next year unless they have one of their own in mind. I have no idea who one of their own could be, but it is in their long term interest to hire somebody that fits their culture.

 

[crimsonaudio]

SNASS

 

[crimsonaudio]

I was out and about all day Saturday, barely watched any football, so I hadn’t seen the barn / KY score…

THREE WHOLE POINTS AGAINST KENTUCKY

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Their timing is bad. Probable should have waited until after next year unless they have one of their own in mind. I have no idea who one of their own could be, but it is in their long term interest to hire somebody that fits their culture.

Freeze fit it perfectly...

 

[Bama_N_Va]

I was out and about all day Saturday, barely watched any football, so I hadn’t seen the barn / KY score…

THREE WHOLE POINTS AGAINST KENTUCKY

Given this...I'm afraid if Bama doesn't shut them out...its going to look like a 'bad' win for Bama...

 

[75thru79]

One could not write a better script of self-destruction for Freeze and AU. Evidently he lost his touch as an offensive genius.

Even offensive geniuses need a serviceable quarterback......

 

[selmaborntidefan]

And I don’t even count Price since he never coached a down

And as several have pointed out, Price wasn't fired because he was a bad coach on the field, he was fired for the kinds of activities that lead to problems such as happened at LSU and Baylor OFF the field.

Firing Mike Price was addition by subtraction.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Given this...I'm afraid if Bama doesn't shut them out...its going to look like a 'bad' win for Bama...

I understand this but it's long been understood by every pundit with a brain (okay, there aren't enough) that RIVALRY games are completely different and have to be assessed accordingly.

Go look at the closest games Texas played in 2009:
Oklahoma - 3
Texas Tech - 10
Texas A/M - 10

Now, OU was gonna be tough no matter what - and Texas Tech was the revenge game from 2008 where Crabtree caught the ball at the end.

But 6-7 ATM? They had nothing to lose.


Now look at Alabama that same year:
Tennessee - 2 (Mt. Cody)
Auburn - 5

Now.....both of those teams played us closer than anyone else did (although we pulled away from SCAR late). Does anybody here REALLY believe for one second that either of those two teams was in the same solar system as Florida with Tim Tebow?

Of course not, although Tennessee was probably not as bad as their record (they only lost to Florida by 10 in the Swamp).

You can check almost any season about 2/3 of the time a powerhouse is going to have either their closest call or get upset by the RIVAL, at least that's how it was prior to the portal/NIL era.

Go back to 1992. While we had a few struggle games, Auburn wasn't in our universe, either, but we went in tied at the half at zero. Granted, they were trying to "Tie One For Dye" and ruin our season, but the moment Langham crossed the goal line that game was over with our defense.