Link: Gary Danielson "Florida and Alabama saved college football this year"

[Bodhisattva]

Yeah and we certainly don't know anything about "piling on" here on Tide Fans now do we? :smile:

I guess the weekly thread ripping Verne/Gary does not constitute as piling on. I completely agree with everyone about Verne. He needs to retire.

I would hold a paid network commentator to a different standard than posters on a football message board.

My criticism of Danielson has nothing to do for his love/hate towards Bama. It's bigger than that. I've watched Danielson do a variety of SEC games, and he has the same shortcomings in every game. He is frequently wrong about the rules or about what just happened on the play. And he picks a team to criticize and spends the rest of the game piling on them. He did that to Arkansas in the Bama game. I didn't like it; it's unprofessional.

 

[TideFan in AU]

Let's see how long it takes people to start ripping Danielson on this one. :smile:

Sorry guys, I'm just don't think Danielson is nearly as bad as most people here make him out to be, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just don't see it. :smile:

Flame away.

I agree. I'm so glad Gary and Verne are doing this one instead of the idiots that did last the Iron Bowl.
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[Bodhisattva]

The Emperor has no clothes folks. The conventional wisdom is that Danielson actually knows what he is talking about, which I can only assume springs from the fact that he talks constantly and always attempts to make himself the center of attention on every broadcast. He always tries to show just how much he knows about the game and the rules. That's why he jumped on Cody. He wanted to be the first one to point out that a flag could have been called. Of course, a flag couldn't have been called. Oops. I don't watch football to hear Danielson. He thinks I do. And that is my problem with him. If he is giving an interview, that is different. Then I do want to hear what he says. Is he knowledgeable? Yes, about as knowledgeable as your average commentator. He just sells himself better than others and deeply believes that he is the smartest man to ever watch football.

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[RammerJammer14]

My comments concerning Danielson have nothing to do with comparing his interviews to him calling a game. :smile:

As I said in the post and many other posts, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. For the most part I actually like the way he calls a game. I think he gives good insight. I do agree that he has a man crush on Tebow, but you can say that about a lot more people than Danielson.

From my viewpoint other than his infatuation with Tebow, I've don't really see or hear a personal bias from him. He certainly has been very complimentary of Alabama, but we are not going to agree with everything an announcer says. He has been very complimentary of the SEC as a conference. It just seems to me poeple here in general just personally don't like him and that's fine. Nothing wrong with being honest and saying you don't like someone. :smile:

If you want to hear a personal bias listen to Steve Beuerlein calling the Alabama/All-Barn game. Now that's a "personal bias." It was sickening. Beuerlein and Bolerjack were every bit as bad as Verne and Danielson. :smile:

Yeah and we certainly don't know anything about "piling on" here on Tide Fans now do we? :smile:

I guess the weekly thread ripping Verne/Gary does not constitute as piling on. I completely agree with everyone about Verne. He needs to retire.

Well you are the one who brought it up, you practically asked everyone to give their opinion (again) on Danielson. To each his own. My problem with Danielson is not his analysis, its the way he says it. Danielson is an eternal pessimist, he concentrates on the negative aspects of a play 95% of the time. In comparison, Blackledge focuses on the positive aspects of the play. And its not just Alabama games. I have watched other games that he has called, and it is the exact same; negative negative negative. He almost stresses you out.

I really think it is just a matter of personal outlook. My grandpa loves Gary, and he also loves to find the one negative aspect of ANYTHING else (example, I got a new car. When I told him, his response was "the oil filter for that car is too expensive". Go figure). Personally, I can't listen to somebody who can't say anything positive to say for 4hrs.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Another problem I have with Danielson is his entirely negative view of everything that happens on the field (unless Tebow does it). A great run, a great catch, a great tackle is never the result of great play by one team. He never gives credit to anyone. For instance, on a great run, he will say, "Let's see if we have a holding here." And then he will show on replay how somebody somewhere was holding. Or on a great catch, he won't focus on the breakaway speed of the receiver or the effort in making the catch. No, he will figure out some way to criticize the corner back. This "style" of commentating manages to irritate everybody involved. The losing team is sick of the criticism, and the winning team feels like they get no credit. But at least Gary gets to show just how sharp his eyes are, just how observant he is, just how much better he would be if he were the ref or the coach or the quarterback. He is endlessly irritating.

This is what I am trying to get at too.

 

[DC Tide]

If I liked him whenever he said something nice about Alabama, that wouldn't be the kind of pure, visceral hate I feel for him. That would be bandwagon hate. And we at Alabama never bandwagon.

That was funny -- at least, I think it was meant to be.

By the way, did you read the latest Finebaum? I usually don't like him, but he was really on target today! :wink:

 

[FightinGator]

This is what I am trying to get at too.

Here me out now. I have watched the CBS broadcast well before Danielson was there. Up until this year Danielson was constantly negative about the Gators always giving them the short end of the stick. If the Gators won, well it was because the other team didnt do so well. Ya knwo that kind of garbage. Im like, the other team didnt do so well cause the Gators were better, duh. Anyway. Mark Melroy for ESPN was the same way with the Gators, just about always never picked them even though they would always win. Well Melroy did an about face the beginning of this year as well, along with a bunch of other previously anti Gator media guys. So Iam skeptical about Danielson and his praise for the Gators. They can all go suck it for all I care. So this parade of praise is new to this season and its irking the heck out of me. Mainly cause I know its two faced and manufactured by script suggestion, and partly cause the Gators have not played up top half their potential this year. They have the potential for greatness but have fallen short evry week. The only reason Iam optimistic about saturday is they have been getting better and better as the weeks go on. The have yet to play a full game and I hope its this saturday cause even though they have the talent to beat Bama, they have not been as consistent in using their talent as Bama has been. Anyhow ignore all that hype about the Gators, or be thankful for it as it usually is a downfall to teams as it breeds cockiness and vainglory. Hopefully my Gators are being coached to ignore it and play as underdogs. Go Gators. Oh and Danielson and Melroy and all you other fair weather Gator fans keep quiet and go suck it. Those are my two bits. Work em silly Gators.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Here me out now. I have watched the CBS broadcast well before Danielson was there. Up until this year Danielson was constantly negative about the Gators always giving them the short end of the stick. If the Gators won, well it was because the other team didnt do so well. Ya knwo that kind of garbage. Im like, the other team didnt do so well cause the Gators were better, duh. Anyway. Mark Melroy for ESPN was the same way with the Gators, just about always never picked them even though they would always win. Well Melroy did an about face the beginning of this year as well, along with a bunch of other previously anti Gator media guys. So Iam skeptical about Danielson and his praise for the Gators. They can all go suck it for all I care. So this parade of praise is new to this season and its irking the heck out of me. Mainly cause I know its two faced and manufactured by script suggestion, and partly cause the Gators have not played up top half their potential this year. They have the potential for greatness but have fallen short evry week. The only reason Iam optimistic about saturday is they have been getting better and better as the weeks go on. The have yet to play a full game and I hope its this saturday cause even though they have the talent to beat Bama, they have not been as consistent in using their talent as Bama has been. Anyhow ignore all that hype about the Gators, or be thankful for it as it usually is a downfall to teams as it breeds cockiness and vainglory. Hopefully my Gators are being coached to ignore it and play as underdogs. Go Gators. Oh and Danielson and Melroy and all you other fair weather Gator fans keep quiet and go suck it. Those are my two bits. Work em silly Gators.

Well I don't know about everybody "flipping" on Florida. When people (me anyways) talk about the "Florida bias", they usually mean the Tebow loverboy mentality in the media. Gary Danielson has been a Tebow lover and promoter ever since he threw that jump pass TD in 06. Tebow has had a free ride with Gary in 06, 07, 08, and 09. With Florida as a team though, Gary has been his typical "Nobody does anything right" self throughout.

I wouldn't worry about the attention getting to Florida's head, either. If Florida was ever going to get a big head, it was for last year's SECC. If I was you, I would be confident that Urban will keep the team level headed, cause I haven't seen them overconfident since 05. They really haven't had any USC, Oklahoma, or Alabama (Sugar Bowl) letdowns.

 

[Bodhisattva]

My most enjoyable games to watch on tv are when I don't even notice the announcers and couldn't tell you their names. Intelligent, minimal commentary. Let the game speak for itself.

 

[FightinGator]

My most enjoyable games to watch on tv are when I don't even notice the announcers and couldn't tell you their names. Intelligent, minimal commentary. Let the game speak for itself.

Agreed. Would to Heaven the officiating and broadcasters would shut up and let the boys play.
Is it me or is Lundquist senile. Just about every call he does has an error in it. Its either a clear 1st down and he says its short, or he says a different guy is running with the ball than actually is. He knows his history but his real time eyesight is really poor now. Uugghhh

 

[BamaHoya]

The Emperor has no clothes folks. The conventional wisdom is that Danielson actually knows what he is talking about, which I can only assume springs from the fact that he talks constantly and always attempts to make himself the center of attention on every broadcast. He always tries to show just how much he knows about the game and the rules. That's why he jumped on Cody. He wanted to be the first one to point out that a flag could have been called. Of course, a flag couldn't have been called. Oops. I don't watch football to hear Danielson. He thinks I do. And that is my problem with him. If he is giving an interview, that is different. Then I do want to hear what he says. Is he knowledgeable? Yes, about as knowledgeable as your average commentator. He just sells himself better than others and deeply believes that he is the smartest man to ever watch football.

Agreed. The number of times Danielson manages to reference himself in the course of a single game is sickening.

 

[Bodhisattva]

Agreed. Would to Heaven the officiating and broadcasters would shut up and let the boys play.
Is it me or is Lundquist senile. Just about every call he does has an error in it. Its either a clear 1st down and he says its short, or he says a different guy is running with the ball than actually is. He knows his history but his real time eyesight is really poor now. Uugghhh

That, or his neck fat is cutting off the circulation to his brain.

 

[roninfla]

Wow, didn't know Gary lived in Naples, I know where they filmed that piece, about 1 minute from the beach, real rich area!
RTR:BigA:

 

[owenfieldreams]

A perspective from someone who has no dog in this fight.....if you all had to put up with the Fox duos who do all the Big 12 games not on ESPN or ABC, you'd thank your lucky stars you have Lundquist & Danielson.

While I am not knowledgeable enough to know when they make mistakes relative to SEC football, I think they are as good a pair as there is on national tv.

I think Danielson just won some award as the top college football analyist. I do get tired of the Tebow adoration but from my bleacher seats,I also get tired of there adulation that is all SEC. However, that's their job, same as the duo that does the ND broadcasts on NBC, who continually glorify everything Irish.

If everyone that exhalts Tebow to sainthood were taken off the air, ESPN would be out of business.

Finally, I notice some references to your play-by-play guy & the fact that some don't like him. OU's "legendary" radio announcer is so bad he is constantly ridiculed by our fanbase. He simply will not retire & his live game calls are a total embarassment. One of his latest classics was,"& the Sooners are coming out on the court".....@ Owen Field, not Lloyd Noble.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. By the way, good luck Saturday. I'd hazzard a guess that fully 90% of Sooner fandom is pulling for the Tide. It's time you restored order.

RTR
BOOOOMMMMMEEERRRR
SOOOOONNNNNEEEERRR!!!

PS: .....and then beat the living sh-- out of Texas!

 

[CullmanTide]

Thanks for the well wishes Owen. Congrats for beating the daylights out of your version of the barn over the weekend. Don't you just hate orange?

 

[bamabryan]

Well you are the one who brought it up, you practically asked everyone to give their opinion (again) on Danielson. To each his own. My problem with Danielson is not his analysis, its the way he says it. Danielson is an eternal pessimist, he concentrates on the negative aspects of a play 95% of the time. In comparison, Blackledge focuses on the positive aspects of the play. And its not just Alabama games. I have watched other games that he has called, and it is the exact same; negative negative negative. He almost stresses you out.

I really think it is just a matter of personal outlook. My grandpa loves Gary, and he also loves to find the one negative aspect of ANYTHING else (example, I got a new car. When I told him, his response was "the oil filter for that car is too expensive". Go figure). Personally, I can't listen to somebody who can't say anything positive to say for 4hrs.

You've been a member of Tide Fans for over two years. You should know that no one needs an invitation to bash Danielson here. If you don't believe me wait til Saturday night or Sunday when the next thread appears talking about how bad Verne and Gary were during the SECCG. Anytime Danielson's name comes up here, the flame throwers come out. :smile:

As for the comment about not being able to listen to someone who can't say anything positive, I can only assume you are speaking of your grandfather. Danielson gives love to Alabama. Sometimes I think he has a man crush on Nick Saban, but you don't see it (or in this case hear it) if you don't take off your crimson colored glasses. :smile: Granted it's nothing at all like the one he has on Tebow, but Danielson is very, very complimentary of our defense. He talks about how difficult it is to drive the ball on Alabama and I've heard him praise our defense on more than one occassion as the best third and long defense in college football. :smile:

 

[RammerJammer14]

You've been a member of Tide Fans for over two years. You should know that no one needs an invitation to bash Danielson here. If you don't believe me wait til Saturday night or Sunday when the next thread appears talking about how bad Verne and Gary were during the SECCG. Anytime Danielson's name comes up here, the flame throwers come out. :smile:

As for the comment about not being able to listen to someone who can't say anything positive, I can only assume you are speaking of your grandfather. Danielson gives love to Alabama. Sometimes I think he has a man crush on Nick Saban, but you don't see it (or in this case hear it) if you don't take off your crimson colored glasses. :smile: Granted it's nothing at all like the one he has on Tebow, but Danielson is very, very complimentary of our defense. He talks about how difficult it is to drive the ball on Alabama and I've heard him praise our defense on more than one occassion as the best third and long defense in college football. :smile:

Like I said, to each his own. For me, Danielson brings up the negatives far, far more often than his praise (except with Tebow, but we all know that now), and I would much rather listen to someone else for 4 hours. Somebody that doesn't take every opportunity to criticize one random aspect of the game non-stop.


TENNESSEE SHOULD GET A REKICK!!!!!

 

[crimson fan man]

This is why I listen to Eli Gold when I watch Alabama play on TV. Gary is alright but I love to listen to someone that is 100% Alabama man. I know that is one sighted but it is what it is.

 

[bayoutider]

I think it was Vern who made the comment about Ingram's father being in prison on the air.

 

[bamabryan]

I think it was Vern who made the comment about Ingram's father being in prison on the air.

It was.