Gridiron Bash in T-town - Alan Jackson confirmed...

[rizolltizide]

Fergie is playing at Penn State's spring game. It just came to me. Who is she? I never heard of her. What music genre does she sing?

She was the chick in the Black Eyed Peas. Some of their stuff is okay. Her stuff, not so much. Nice bootay though.

 

[bamanut_aj]

She was the chick in the Black Eyed Peas. Some of their stuff is okay. Her stuff, not so much. Nice bootay though.

Fergie = nice uniform, bad helmet.

 

[Capt. Jack]

Thank you for that well thought out and enlightened statement.



You're welcome, I'm open to differing opinions but I'd prefer some sort of substance that isn't rooted in sheer bias. Not that this is the place to debate the subject, however we are talking about Alan Jackson in the football forum... Since sarcasm has been favored over substance I'll just explain why rapping is more difficult than singing.

Singing is something a vast majority of people are able to do at a very young age. What young child can't sing along to a song like "Mary Had A Little Lamb"? However, even the most popular rap songs are something the average person can't rap along to without spending some time practicing. The cadence is not something most people can easily master. You'd think it was easy, and if you have a strong dislike for rap out of ignorance one might be prone to name calling.

I've personally encountered many people that can't do the most basic element of rap, which is rapping over the beat. If you want a case in point compare Celebrity Rap Superstar to Gone Country. Most of the celebrities, despite training had difficulty rapping at all (several unable to come close to finishing a song). However, on any myriad of shows such as Gone Country which try to challenge people to sing a particular style or what not, the ability to sing the song is a forgone conclusion. It is whether or not someone can actually do it well that is the concern.

I'm embarrassed for you that you've watched those shows.

I totally disagree with your point that most people can't do the most basic rap. What is rap anyway? It's basically talking over a beat. What moron can't do that? You don't even have to stay in a certain key to rap.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I like country music because many of the songs I can relate to. I think there are millions (did I mention there were millions?) of people that are the same. I can relate to "going fishing in the dark", "Sunday chicken after church", "peanuts in my coke", "four wheel drives and mud ridin'" and all sorts of other things that country music covers.

I'm sorry, I can't relate to killing cops, "ridin' dirty", and the other things that many of the rap songs tend to gravitate to. Now there are some rap songs I like the beat and the music but that's about it. I don't go waste my money buying the cd's.

But if someone doesn't think Alan Jackson, country music and that culture is "cool" then who cares? Don't go "bro". I don't like it because I think it's "cool". I like it because I can relate to it.

And the genius that said that country music had to "change" and put more "pop" to stay popular should realize that all genres of music change over time. The pop rock you hear today sounds nothing like it did twenty five years ago. So I really don't see the point.

Again, if you don't like it don't go. But there are millions of people who do like it.

 

[KrAzY3]

I totally disagree with your point that most people can't do the most basic rap. What is rap anyway? It's basically talking over a beat. What moron can't do that? You don't even have to stay in a certain key to rap.

I tell you what, rather than let this drag on just record yourself successfully rapping over a song of 120 BPM or more and I'll consider myself corrected. Otherwise, from my experience cadence takes more practice/skill than keeping a basic tune.

Also to answer your question millions of morons apparently, I personally have encountered around 1,000 and I fortunately that has to represent only a tiny portion of said morons.

 

[Capt. Jack]

I tell you what, rather than let this drag on just record yourself successfully rapping over a song of 120 BPM or more and I'll consider myself corrected. Otherwise, from my experience cadence takes more practice/skill than keeping a basic tune.

Also to answer your question millions of morons apparently, I personally have encountered around 1,000 and I fortunately that has to represent only a tiny portion of said morons.

I already consider you corrected. I've been a musician for nearly 30 years and "from my experience" you're wrong. But hey, next time 50 Cent covers a Steve Perry song call me and we'll talk.

 

[Capt. Jack]

Fergie = nice uniform, bad helmet.

That's what meth will do to you.

 

[KrAzY3]

I already consider you corrected. I've been a musician for nearly 30 years and "from my experience" you're wrong. But hey, next time 50 Cent covers a Steve Perry song call me and we'll talk.

Since you're a accomplished musician I assume you'll have no problem at all getting that track to me in short order, heh...

Since this applies to a couple discussions in this thread and our discussion sounds like a agree to disagree (hint, it's not the hook the Fergie can't manage. Look around the 2:20 mark):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DkSvH_OcBJA

 

[RT3413]

FYI - neither Alan Jackson nor Bama is no longer listed on the Gridiron Bash website.

 

[bamanut_aj]

Since you're a accomplished musician I assume you'll have no problem at all getting that track to me in short order, heh...

Since this applies to a couple discussions in this thread and our discussion sounds like a agree to disagree (hint, it's not the hook the Fergie can't manage. Look around the 2:20 mark):

she kinda missed it huh? Of course, nobody in that "song" sounded on key.

 

[bamanut_aj]

That's what meth will do to you.

not true. It actually made me prettier.

 

[DiamondDust]

I like country music because many of the songs I can relate to. I think there are millions (did I mention there were millions?) of people that are the same. I can relate to "going fishing in the dark", "Sunday chicken after church", "peanuts in my coke", "four wheel drives and mud ridin'" and all sorts of other things that country music covers.

I'm sorry, I can't relate to killing cops, "ridin' dirty", and the other things that many of the rap songs tend to gravitate to. Now there are some rap songs I like the beat and the music but that's about it. I don't go waste my money buying the cd's.

But you wouldn't disagree that country music has had songs that covers pretty much the same themes as rap songs - sex, drugs, violence, would you?

Honestly, those three elements are pretty much the staples of American music going all the way back to the Blues.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

But you wouldn't disagree that country music has had songs that covers pretty much the same themes as rap songs - sex, drugs, violence, would you?

Honestly, those three elements are pretty much the staples of American music going all the way back to the Blues.

I do not disagree at all about that. Music is people's life experiences put to music and lyrics. But at the same time just because I can relate to many of country musics themes doesn't mean I relate to all. Let's be honest, country music is most white people's musical way of expressing life experiences, joys, pains and problems and rap is black people's way. The two cultures are vastly different-hence the music sounding vastly different.

Violence is violence, sex is sex and drugs are drugs. But the context in which they are carried out within each culture is different. They are both equally bad but are experienced in different ways within each culture. That's why most white folks can't relate to the "violence", "sex" and "drugs" in the black culture and the black folks can't relate to the "violence", "sex" and "drugs" in the white culture. Hence black people gravitating to rap music and whites to country. But again, the net result of all three are equally bad. They are just administered in different ways.

I hope all of that made sense. I just about lost myself in it. :biggrin:

 

[DiamondDust]

I do not disagree at all about that. Music is people's life experiences put to music and lyrics. But at the same time just because I can relate to many of country musics themes doesn't mean I relate to all. Let's be honest, country music is most white people's musical way of expressing life experiences, joys, pains and problems and rap is black people's way. The two cultures are vastly different-hence the music sounding vastly different.

Violence is violence, sex is sex and drugs are drugs. But the context in which they are carried out within each culture is different. They are both equally bad but are experienced in different ways within each culture. That's why most white folks can't relate to the "violence", "sex" and "drugs" in the black culture and the black folks can't relate to the "violence", "sex" and "drugs" in the white culture. Hence black people gravitating to rap music and whites to country. But again, the net result of all three are equally bad. They are just administered in different ways.

I hope all of that made sense. I just about lost myself in it. :biggrin:

I understand completely... very good points all around.

 

[CaliforniaTide]

FYI - neither Alan Jackson nor Bama is no longer listed on the Gridiron Bash website.

That's what I was asking before. My girlfriend had heard about it also through one of her friends. There's no info on that website talking about Alan Jackson at UA for anything.

 

[PalmettoBAMA88]

On the Gridiron Bash facebook group, Alabama and the date are listed but no artist is on there yet.