Link: Ha Ha Clinton Dix suspended; asst strength coach placed on leave for providing loan

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Yeah, Earle, didn't JH get like a 7-game suspension because of that?
Yeah, I think that was it. The hilarious thing is the king board of paranoia - ITAT - considered that it was really a Bama booster who sponsored the trip and laptop, despite the fact that the jerk runs a business with "eagle" in its name, has the inside decorated in orange and blue, with AU decorations, and had two kids attending Auburn...
 
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I bet Scott Cochran was a little bit upset.....
Yeah, he looks crazy when he is happy - hate to see what he looks like when he is mad. :eek2:
 

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No, nothing can "make it right." What I'm hearing - and it'll be interesting to see if it's right - was that Dix had a couple hundred stolen from his car and was running short. Harris felt sorry for him and made him a small loan. Dix has already produced bank records to prove he paid it back...
If this is really what happened then this is the kinda crap the NCAA should back off from and has no business even being involved. So, just because a kid is a college athlete means that if money is stolen he can not receive any help from anyone even if he plans to pay it back. This, in the real world, is what we call helping a friend or colleague. There was no pay-for-play scenario involved. I just don't understand why this is so bad in the NCAA's mind. What's he suppose to do, not pay his bills because money was stolen? Would it have been against the rules for another player to loan him the money? This is all just utterly ridiculous IMO. I understand not wanting player to receive pay for play type benefits but this is just crazy. Could he have gone to one of those "need cash now" places or would they be considered a booster? Its just stupid, the NCAA treats players like they are in prison sometimes.

I understand the NCAA doesn't want to open Pandora's box but, if a player is in a pinch, borrow's money and pays it back, then there should be no harm... no foul. Now he may miss a few games and a coach may be without a job because he did what any decent human being would have done, helped a kid. The only thing these type of NCAA rules teach kids is to keep stuff on the down low.
 
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Sounds like a stupid mistake, certainly not something that the fans should kill the player over. As for the assistant, I don't know anything about him. I am hesitant to just say that he should be fired over this mistake without knowing him or the details. Saban has all of the facts by now and is in the best position to decide. I would not assume that this guy is a cancer, loaning money all over the place, acting for an agent.
While I agree we shouldn't assume he's a "cancer," he still should know the rules and to take money out of your pocket for any reason is a violation. If I'm not mistaken, He couldn't have even given the guy a ride to a funeral or doctor much less giving him money SO HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

It's not a decision that I have to make but his boss will and I just can't imagine CNS having much grace on a matter like this. JMHO.

and the NCAA would agree with that statement.....we have been overly compliant since the textbook mess.
This can't be true. We are the cheating-est program in the SEC. Thank goodness for the REC who controls everything (heard they were really responsible for the gov't shutdown) and thank goodness we have a head coach who has dirt on Mark Emmert. I know this is true because I have reliable friends in Lee County who have read it on ITAT.

Maybe it's just me, but if I was a HC and even had a whiff that one of my assistant coaches had ties to an agent, I couldn't run him off fast enough. I just can't believe this is commonplace, or even tolerated, anywhere.
OK, maybe you went to school with a guy who became an agent, and you remained friends; even then, you are swimming in shark-infested waters. Any other scenario other than a family member is just friggin insane.
Agents are a dime a dozen so probably almost everybody on the staff knows a few. I wouldn't read too much into the fact that this guy may have "connections" to an agent.
 

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If this is really what happened then this is the kinda crap the NCAA should back off from and has no business even being involved. So, just because a kid is a college athlete means that if money is stolen he can not receive any help from anyone even if he plans to pay it back. This, in the real world, is what we call helping a friend or colleague. There was no pay-for-play scenario involved. I just don't understand why this is so bad in the NCAA's mind. What's he suppose to do, not pay his bills because money was stolen? Would it have been against the rules for another player to loan him the money? This is all just utterly ridiculous IMO. I understand not wanting player to receive pay for play type benefits but this is just crazy. Could he have gone to one of those "need cash now" places or would they be considered a booster? Its just stupid, the NCAA treats players like they are in prison sometimes.

I understand the NCAA doesn't want to open Pandora's box but, if a player is in a pinch, borrow's money and pays it back, then there should be no harm... no foul. Now he may miss a few games and a coach may be without a job because he did what any decent human being would have done, helped a kid. The only thing these type of NCAA rules teach kids is to keep stuff on the down low.
Cecil has just confirmed that his car was broken into and there is a police report on it. The figure I keep hearing is $200. Per our Compliance, it's less than $500...
 

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Cecil has just confirmed that his car was broken into and there is a police report on it. The figure I keep hearing is $200. Per our Compliance, it's less than $500...
Story is sounding less troublesome the more that comes out!
 

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This is a C&P from an NC newspaper release on the impermissible benefits received by UNC basketball players. Apparently, it's no longer by quarters:

The NCAA uses a sliding scale as one measure to determine punishment in impermissible benefits cases. This is the likely rate for a basketball player determined to have received an impermissible benefit:
Benefit Suspension
$501-$7003 games
$701-$1,0006 games
$1,001 or more9 games
Dix's was less than $500...
 

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This is a C&P from an NC newspaper release on the impermissible benefits received by UNC basketball players. Apparently, it's no longer by quarters:

The NCAA uses a sliding scale as one measure to determine punishment in impermissible benefits cases. This is the likely rate for a basketball player determined to have received an impermissible benefit:
Benefit Suspension
$501-$7003 games
$701-$1,0006 games
$1,001 or more9 games
Dix's was less than $500...
Well, that was interesting Earle. I've never seen that.
 

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This is a C&P from an NC newspaper release on the impermissible benefits received by UNC basketball players. Apparently, it's no longer by quarters:
Can't imagine that scale being applicable to football players. I would think it would be a smaller suspension scale for football players simply because the schedule is so much smaller.

IIRC, Dareus's two-game suspension three years back was over about $2,000.00 in impermissible benefits.
 

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Well, that was interesting Earle. I've never seen that.
That was for basketball players, but it sounds right, from what I remember. At any rate, it's nothing like the one game per $100 figure mentioned above. "Experts" should be more carefully selected...
 

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May have been mentioned. The ESPN segment praises coach Saban's handling of the case and how difficult it must be to keep an eye on all the 4 and 5 star talent we have, and that they believe coach Saban does a very good job of keeping player incidents to a minimum. No discussion of NCAA investigations, a bigger story or being critical of the program, just a player incident and a university taking care of it in responsible fashion. Then they go on to talk about the games we will be without Dix and when they predict he will be back.

We are fortunate to have such a coach. He's got clout these days.
 

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If a player's backpack, etc. is stolen among other things, what is he to do. He's many miles away from family in Florida. If he had textbooks, completed assignments, etc. in his backpack, how can he be prepared for class?

Does he just turn to only his family for assistance? Can the university help someone who has been ROBBED?

What should he have been able to do to stay in compliance in this situation?
 

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Also, if the assistant coach is retained, he needs to take an NCAA rules EXAM (STRINGENT one) to be permitted back on staff. He needs to score 100% or keep taking it until he does.
 

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Can't imagine that scale being applicable to football players. I would think it would be a smaller suspension scale for football players simply because the schedule is so much smaller.

IIRC, Dareus's two-game suspension three years back was over about $2,000.00 in impermissible benefits.
I think you're right and it probably still is measured in quarters. Sigh, I didn't want to have to research this again...
 

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Oh Lord he owns a Charger. ITAT will go nuts this weekend! LOL!

I still say 3 games MAX.
 
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