Hitler's DNA Revealed

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Hitler's DNA

Interesting article about a scientific analysis of Adollf Hitler's DNA and what it can and cannot tell us about him. Interestingly enough, the analysis itself was performed in a lab in the USA as the British labs passed on it due to possible controversy. Very interesting read...

BTW, he did not have any Jewish ancestors!
 
Hitler's DNA

Interesting article about a scientific analysis of Adollf Hitler's DNA and what it can and cannot tell us about him. Interestingly enough, the analysis itself was performed in a lab in the USA as the British labs passed on it due to possible controversy. Very interesting read...

BTW, he did not have any Jewish ancestors!
Oh, well, I guess the rumors were not true. Still a great rumor, though.
 
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It is interesting. I thought the scientists did a good job fully explaining what the results did and didn't say.

I also thought the criticisms from other scientists were overwrought. They smacked of virtue signaling to justify what I suspect is really professional envy. IOW, I wish I'd been the one to analyze Hitler's DNA...but you were, so I'm going to impugn your moral fiber.

Hitler's DNA showed that he was more prone to autism, ADHD and schizophrenia than 99% of the population. The researchers clearly and repeatedly state that a genetic predisposition isn't a diagnosis and that DNA can't tell whether an individual person (in this case, Adolf Hitler) actually had the mental conditions to which he was genetically predisposed.

Yet other scientists say that bringing it up at all is a disservice to people who do have autism. That autistic people "deserve better." That the research shouldn't have been done at all.

That's an interesting comment because the DNA also shows that Hitler had a genetic disorder that leads to under-developed sexual organs. That finding actually is diagnostic, yet I note that none of the criticisms stated that people who have that disorder today "deserve better."

While not a diagnosis in Hitler's specific case (which the researchers repeatedly emphasize), omitting a finding of propensity to mental conditions that significant (more prone than 99% of the general population) would be a disservice to the research.

We should learn from things and people that are distasteful or downright evil. What better way to avoid or prevent them in the future? It beats running away in screaming -- but virtuous -- ignorance. Or hiding a legitimate finding because it might be uncomfortable.

Kudos to the researchers!
 
did they also confirm the song lyric about him only having one testicle?
They confirmed that he had a genetic disorder that leads to under-developed sexual organs. The DNA can't identify the exact symptoms Hitler himself might have exhibited. Having only one testicle would be consistent, but other symptoms would be as well.
 
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That's an interesting comment because the DNA also shows that Hitler had a genetic disorder that leads to under-developed sexual organs. That finding actually is diagnostic, yet I note that none of the criticisms stated that people who have that disorder today "deserve better."
The meaning of the word "some" continues to befuddle people.
Inductive reasoning has its place, and is sometimes all we have, but it also has its limitations.
That seems to be lost on the crowd saying "autistic people deserve better."
The researchers said, "Some of the people with this gene have or develop autism." They did not say, "All that have this gene are autistics." Nor did they say, "All people with autism are Hitler."

"Some." Not that complicated.
 
It is interesting. I thought the scientists did a good job fully explaining what the results did and didn't say.

I also thought the criticisms from other scientists were overwrought. They smacked of virtue signaling to justify what I suspect is really professional envy. IOW, I wish I'd been the one to analyze Hitler's DNA...but you were, so I'm going to impugn your moral fiber.

Hitler's DNA showed that he was more prone to autism, ADHD and schizophrenia than 99% of the population. The researchers clearly and repeatedly state that a genetic predisposition isn't a diagnosis and that DNA can't tell whether an individual person (in this case, Adolf Hitler) actually had the mental conditions to which he was genetically predisposed.

Yet other scientists say that bringing it up at all is a disservice to people who do have autism. That autistic people "deserve better." That the research shouldn't have been done at all.

That's an interesting comment because the DNA also shows that Hitler had a genetic disorder that leads to under-developed sexual organs. That finding actually is diagnostic, yet I note that none of the criticisms stated that people who have that disorder today "deserve better."

While not a diagnosis in Hitler's specific case (which the researchers repeatedly emphasize), omitting a finding of propensity to mental conditions that significant (more prone than 99% of the general population) would be a disservice to the research.

We should learn from things and people that are distasteful or downright evil. What better way to avoid or prevent them in the future? It beats running away in screaming -- but virtuous -- ignorance. Or hiding a legitimate finding because it might be uncomfortable.

Kudos to the researchers!
Totally agree with you and Tidewater...I am amazed at how jealousy reigns in the scientific community. Still very interesting and from where I sit the authors/researchers handled this superbly.
 
I haven't read it yet, but so long as the researchers clarified the difference between having a gene and its being expressed, I don't have a problem with it. People can make up their own minds about where this piece of the puzzle fits in the whole picture. Even a casual reading of his life story shows a profoundly abnormal personality. Even more, if you read very much about his family and upbringing, the picture gets even worse. His father was born out of wedlock and used his mother's family name, "Schicklgruber," until she remarried a man named "Hitler," whereupon Hitler's father legally changed his name to his stepfather's. Somehow, the vision of an entire nation, with outstretched arms, screaming "Heil Schicklgruber" has always hit me as intrinsically comical. Could they have done it with a straight face? :)
 
No, I'm a history major but I never heard that...

You should have learned about blue font by now...
Yeah, they made a movie about Nazis fleeing to South America. It was called "The Boys from Brazil". Also, Hitler wasn't one of the characters. The main Nazi character in the movie was Jose Mengele.
 
I do not know where else to put this, so I'l leave it here.
Newsreel from the early 1960s by the looks of things, asking school kids what they knew about Hitler.
English translation by Google.
Let's now turn to the majority of our students, the elementary school students. I began with the question, "What do you know about Hitler and National Socialism?"

They said that Hitler made empty promises to the people and that he was able to gain power through his allies.

Hitler promised people a good life, and he promised to create a culturally rich country for them, and then he exploited this promise in such an evil way.

When Hitler drove through the streets, people always had to raise their hands and shout "Heil Hitler!" If they didn't do that, they were punished in some way.

Hitler was a dictator.

He sold badges (?) to seize power.

Hitler always had a dog with him and had a small black mustache.

The leader of the National Socialist party, and Stresemann was against him.

He provided jobs for the unemployed and had highways built.

Because he built the highways, he gave many unemployed people jobs and focused on schools.

He lived from 1900 or ruled from 1933 to 1945 and gave the unemployed jobs by building highways.

And Hitler was quite good because there were no murderers like the taxi murderers that exist now or other women murderers; they were immediately eliminated, and all young people joined the parties like the Hitler Youth and the Young Folk, and so on.

Hitler also did a lot for the workers, sending them off on ships for very little money.

He also cared for the mothers and the young children, whether he had other motives in doing so is impossible to know, but he did care for the workers and the mothers; he wanted to make himself popular with his people.

Hitler did a lot for the German people and was only bad because he went insane.

I think what Hitler did was quite good, because he turned 7 million workers back into workers in one fell swoop, and he made sure that the young people weren't just wandering around aimlessly.

Do you remember the names of any other National Socialist leaders besides Hitler?

Hindenburg? You too? No others? And Göring too, of course, they were also National Socialists, and what positions did they hold? For the Luftwaffe?

If you look at the map today and look at America, Russia, and all the countries that were against Germany in World War II, and Germany only had Japan as an ally in World War II, then you have to think that Hitler was, to put it bluntly, an idiot for fighting against these large countries alone or with only one ally.
 
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