then you are, whether you realize it or not, saying that you don't believe in our team.
Bring back the swagger. BRING BACK THE RAMMER JAMMER CHEER!!!
'Nuff said.
Bring back the swagger. BRING BACK THE RAMMER JAMMER CHEER!!!
'Nuff said.
If you don't support bringing "Rammer Jammer" back in Pre-game...
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It is an opinion and everyone has one
Quite frankly, I thought it showed a lack of class by playing it during pre-game and in my opinion my being there on Saturdays shows my support of the team. Swagger is gained by simply winning! When asked what his favorite play was Coach Bryant once replied "When the back or the receiver tosses the ball the the referee in the end zone" Alabama Football is something different to each of us for you it is the "Rammer Jammer", for me it is gameday in Tuscaloosa, but you can bet your sweet bippy it is winning on Satuday that ties us all together. It's Roll Tide when the team plays it's guts out and leaves it on the field and those of us in the stands are spent from yelling or applauding or waving pom poms until our arms are about to fall off. Alabama football is more then just a cheer, it's Bryant Denny Stadium, or the Quad or Denny Chimes, the Presidents Mansion. It's "The Kick", "The Block" "Goal Line Stand" or any one of a dozen Daniel Moore paintings that help us remember special games. It's having faith that Coach Mike Shula and his sucessors will uphold the tradition of winning and excellence at the University of Alabama. It's carrying the SEC banner into bowl games and defending the conference name as one of the toughest in the nation. It's many things to many people,but for those of us who bleed crimson it is for us about having pride in the University, the coaches and the team.
Roll Tide Roll
PlayerUA said:
Quite frankly, I thought it showed a lack of class by playing it during pre-game and in my opinion my being there on Saturdays shows my support of the team. Swagger is gained by simply winning! When asked what his favorite play was Coach Bryant once replied "When the back or the receiver tosses the ball the the referee in the end zone" Alabama Football is something different to each of us for you it is the "Rammer Jammer", for me it is gameday in Tuscaloosa, but you can bet your sweet bippy it is winning on Satuday that ties us all together. It's Roll Tide when the team plays it's guts out and leaves it on the field and those of us in the stands are spent from yelling or applauding or waving pom poms until our arms are about to fall off. Alabama football is more then just a cheer, it's Bryant Denny Stadium, or the Quad or Denny Chimes, the Presidents Mansion. It's "The Kick", "The Block" "Goal Line Stand" or any one of a dozen Daniel Moore paintings that help us remember special games. It's having faith that Coach Mike Shula and his sucessors will uphold the tradition of winning and excellence at the University of Alabama. It's carrying the SEC banner into bowl games and defending the conference name as one of the toughest in the nation. It's many things to many people,but for those of us who bleed crimson it is for us about having pride in the University, the coaches and the team.
Roll Tide Roll
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Bring back 'Ole Miss'!
Man, I remember when I was little and first started coming to UA games it was my FAVORITE part! (It was the only time I could get away with yelling Hell, lol.) I doubt much gets the team more pumped than Yea Alabama and Rammer Jammer.
Man, I remember when I was little and first started coming to UA games it was my FAVORITE part! (It was the only time I could get away with yelling Hell, lol.) I doubt much gets the team more pumped than Yea Alabama and Rammer Jammer.
PlayerUA said:
While I can appreciate the sentiment, I don't agree with the statement at all.
I know of some people who might not agree with the verbiage in the chant. If you have no problems with it fine. If you do have problems with it, that's fine too. That's up to each person.
I do however know of several ministers and religous folk who do not approve of the chant and won't say it because of the connotation it can carry. Say what you like about them going overboard, taking it out of context, too far, etc...whatever. That's their right to believe that way.
There is no way though that I will ever believe or say that just because you don't like the chant means you don't support this team. That's utter nonsense. I won't be yelling Rammer Jammer in front of my son because I don't him repeating it at two years old, but that don't make me any less a fan.
I don't really have a dog in the fight...
but I question that tactic. I fear many religious folk would feel that most Christians shouldn't be able to tell the difference but would act the same at all times...
but I question that tactic. I fear many religious folk would feel that most Christians shouldn't be able to tell the difference but would act the same at all times...
i have been out for a while, and i'm lost. what happened to "rammer Jammer"? sorry for the 'dumb' question
Hook, line and sinker.
The point of this post on a boring Sunday afternoon was to point out a distinct flavor of hypocrisy that seems to exist among many in the Alabama football family.
Number one, no one ever said anything about you not "supporting" your team...South Carolina went 0-11 in the recent past and still had over 80,000 fans in the stands. They, too, support their team.
My word was BELIEVE. Why not turn to the opponents, and with confidence, remind them that we're going to beat the hell outta them? What made THAT line a problem all of the sudden? Is it because our administration DOESN'T believe we're going to beat the hell out of any given team? Why not substitute the word "heck"? Or does the inference make that less than appropriate as well? That's how I look at it. Why not have the swagger? I cannot think of one example where an opponent has said "them playing the Rammer Jammer cheer gave us that extra incentive we needed to come in here and beat Alabama...what were they thinking?" It all goes with having the winning attitude and swagger that Alabama was once none for.
Some of you same posters chime in every now and then on the non-sports board BLASTING political correctness, yet say that "many religious leaders disapprove of the Rammer Jammer cheer for its literal meaning." Again, is that not political correctness being taken to the MOST FAR of extremes? Why is the LARGE majority of fans, students, alumni and players who support the cheer be void of it because of the very, very small minority that "disapprove?" In a democracy, are we not taught to believed that the minority shall be protected but the majority shall rule? Where is the example of that here?
I was waiting for the words "class" and "children." Saying the Rammer Jammer cheer isn't classless...it's a cheer. At a football game. In, supposedly, a hostile environment. If you don't want your child to say the word "hell," then don't let them. Why is The University of Alabama being asked to teach that lesson for you? I believe that many of us who grew up going to Alabama games never lost focus on what we could and couldn't say with our parents right beside us.
The generational divide is evident in the few respondents so far...
In the very near future, I wouldn't be surprised to learn of a legal fight to have "Dixie's football pride" removed from "Yea Alabama!" After all, I'm sure there are many civil rights leaders who find the term "Dixie" to be very offensive. What if there are parents who don't want to explain to their child what exactly Dixie is/was and at one point stood for? Exactly. You all would blow gaskets. You would probably tell them that if they didn't like it, they didn't have to say it.
And THAT is my point. It's a cheer, it's fun, and it's SWAGGER. Anytime we bring religion and feelings into a cheer at football games...we are grasping for straws.
RAMMER JAMMER YELLOW HAMMER - GIVE 'EM HELL, ALABAMA.
The point of this post on a boring Sunday afternoon was to point out a distinct flavor of hypocrisy that seems to exist among many in the Alabama football family.
Number one, no one ever said anything about you not "supporting" your team...South Carolina went 0-11 in the recent past and still had over 80,000 fans in the stands. They, too, support their team.
My word was BELIEVE. Why not turn to the opponents, and with confidence, remind them that we're going to beat the hell outta them? What made THAT line a problem all of the sudden? Is it because our administration DOESN'T believe we're going to beat the hell out of any given team? Why not substitute the word "heck"? Or does the inference make that less than appropriate as well? That's how I look at it. Why not have the swagger? I cannot think of one example where an opponent has said "them playing the Rammer Jammer cheer gave us that extra incentive we needed to come in here and beat Alabama...what were they thinking?" It all goes with having the winning attitude and swagger that Alabama was once none for.
Some of you same posters chime in every now and then on the non-sports board BLASTING political correctness, yet say that "many religious leaders disapprove of the Rammer Jammer cheer for its literal meaning." Again, is that not political correctness being taken to the MOST FAR of extremes? Why is the LARGE majority of fans, students, alumni and players who support the cheer be void of it because of the very, very small minority that "disapprove?" In a democracy, are we not taught to believed that the minority shall be protected but the majority shall rule? Where is the example of that here?
I was waiting for the words "class" and "children." Saying the Rammer Jammer cheer isn't classless...it's a cheer. At a football game. In, supposedly, a hostile environment. If you don't want your child to say the word "hell," then don't let them. Why is The University of Alabama being asked to teach that lesson for you? I believe that many of us who grew up going to Alabama games never lost focus on what we could and couldn't say with our parents right beside us.
The generational divide is evident in the few respondents so far...
In the very near future, I wouldn't be surprised to learn of a legal fight to have "Dixie's football pride" removed from "Yea Alabama!" After all, I'm sure there are many civil rights leaders who find the term "Dixie" to be very offensive. What if there are parents who don't want to explain to their child what exactly Dixie is/was and at one point stood for? Exactly. You all would blow gaskets. You would probably tell them that if they didn't like it, they didn't have to say it.
And THAT is my point. It's a cheer, it's fun, and it's SWAGGER. Anytime we bring religion and feelings into a cheer at football games...we are grasping for straws.
RAMMER JAMMER YELLOW HAMMER - GIVE 'EM HELL, ALABAMA.
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I do know that's Bryant-Denny, and I do know that's a church. Thanks for the clarification, and no, I didn't confuse the two.
I don't particularly care one way or the other whether Rammer Jammer is chanted before the game or not, each to their own. I've been to enough sporting events (football, NASCAR, etc.) to know how the game is played, both on and off the field. Whatever you want to do is fine, I don't really give a flip one way or the other.
My point is that there is no way I will ever believe that just because a person doesn't like a particular chant that is said, that that person is any less a fan. I just find it incomprehensible. It'd be like saying that any Barn fan not willing to spout out "War Damn Eagle" is not really and truly an Auburn fan, and not supportive or "believing" of their team. That's just semantics. Believing, supporting, whatever word you want to use, it's all the same.
I do support this team. I do root for this team just as hard as anyone. I've been in the stands, but I haven't yelled out Rammer Jammer, because I don't necessarily like the connotation. That absolutely, unequivocably does NOT make me any less a fan, or any less supportive, or any less "believing" and I almost take issue with it being said that it would.
If supporting this team boils down to me supporting the Rammer Jammer chant before games, I'm'a root for Ball State. They have a funny name, and I won't have to yell out "Give em Hell Ball State!", although it might be kinda fun to do so.
I do indeed know it's my job to raise my kids. Like I said, let everyone say whatever they want to. I just took issue with it being said I don't "believe" in this team because I don't necessarily like the chant. That's about all there is to it.
If they wanna say it fine. If they don't wanna say it fine. I have no opinion one way or the other about it TBH. I kinda don't have a problem with anyone who does say it, I know it's for fun. I just don't think it makes a person any less "believing" in this team if they don't, that's all I meant. I know a lot of pastors I've had who didn't like it, and they were the biggest Bama fans I ever knew. Didn't make em any less a fan, they just had different ways of showing it. Is all I meant.
I don't particularly care one way or the other whether Rammer Jammer is chanted before the game or not, each to their own. I've been to enough sporting events (football, NASCAR, etc.) to know how the game is played, both on and off the field. Whatever you want to do is fine, I don't really give a flip one way or the other.
My point is that there is no way I will ever believe that just because a person doesn't like a particular chant that is said, that that person is any less a fan. I just find it incomprehensible. It'd be like saying that any Barn fan not willing to spout out "War Damn Eagle" is not really and truly an Auburn fan, and not supportive or "believing" of their team. That's just semantics. Believing, supporting, whatever word you want to use, it's all the same.
I do support this team. I do root for this team just as hard as anyone. I've been in the stands, but I haven't yelled out Rammer Jammer, because I don't necessarily like the connotation. That absolutely, unequivocably does NOT make me any less a fan, or any less supportive, or any less "believing" and I almost take issue with it being said that it would.
If supporting this team boils down to me supporting the Rammer Jammer chant before games, I'm'a root for Ball State. They have a funny name, and I won't have to yell out "Give em Hell Ball State!", although it might be kinda fun to do so.
I do indeed know it's my job to raise my kids. Like I said, let everyone say whatever they want to. I just took issue with it being said I don't "believe" in this team because I don't necessarily like the chant. That's about all there is to it.
If they wanna say it fine. If they don't wanna say it fine. I have no opinion one way or the other about it TBH. I kinda don't have a problem with anyone who does say it, I know it's for fun. I just don't think it makes a person any less "believing" in this team if they don't, that's all I meant. I know a lot of pastors I've had who didn't like it, and they were the biggest Bama fans I ever knew. Didn't make em any less a fan, they just had different ways of showing it. Is all I meant.
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I don't mean to...
...try and undermine or belittle anyone's fervor for this football team at all, PlayerUA. That was not my intent in the slightest. ON the flipside, I very much admire it.
However, on this fence called "belief in Alabama football", there are two sides, both with differing types of fans on them, when it comes to this issue (or there wouldn't even be an issue at all).
I just found it a very bold statement saying those opposed do not believe in this football team. Why can't there just be two types?
You can be a season ticket holder, pour money into Tide Pride, go to as many games as you can and cheer as loud as you can, and if you don't support Rammer jammer you don't believe in this team?
I just don't believe that. I feel to do so would discredit a lot of the fans we have out there, and I think they may number quite a few more than you think they do.
Just my opinion, that's all.
RTR!
...try and undermine or belittle anyone's fervor for this football team at all, PlayerUA. That was not my intent in the slightest. ON the flipside, I very much admire it.
However, on this fence called "belief in Alabama football", there are two sides, both with differing types of fans on them, when it comes to this issue (or there wouldn't even be an issue at all).
I just found it a very bold statement saying those opposed do not believe in this football team. Why can't there just be two types?
You can be a season ticket holder, pour money into Tide Pride, go to as many games as you can and cheer as loud as you can, and if you don't support Rammer jammer you don't believe in this team?
I just don't believe that. I feel to do so would discredit a lot of the fans we have out there, and I think they may number quite a few more than you think they do.
Just my opinion, that's all.
RTR!
It was a post meant fishing for opinion. It got it. 
You have your opinion and I have mine...there is no lost respect for you or your opinion.
There are MANY types of Alabama fans, sunshine pumpers, pessimists, alumni, sidewalk alumni, etc. etc...but the point I was trying to make is that anytime religion and morals are brought into whether a cheer is played at a football game or not, we might be stepping dangerously close to that relm of political correctness that many of these same posters fight so strongly against.
Hope that clears it up some for you. ROLL TIDE!
You have your opinion and I have mine...there is no lost respect for you or your opinion.There are MANY types of Alabama fans, sunshine pumpers, pessimists, alumni, sidewalk alumni, etc. etc...but the point I was trying to make is that anytime religion and morals are brought into whether a cheer is played at a football game or not, we might be stepping dangerously close to that relm of political correctness that many of these same posters fight so strongly against.
Hope that clears it up some for you. ROLL TIDE!
I'll be honest, I'm a Christian. I'll be honest again, I've said some things during football games that have made my wife's hair stand on end. Is the nature of the beast, so I certainly hold no-one to task for any of it, like I said, is all in good fun.
Just speaking for those I know who are very serious indeed about things like this. I just can't say they don't believe in this team.
I do know you were fishing though.
Hope I did my job and provided you with at least a little entertainment!
May not like it, but I support the decision to say whatever it is.
Give em 'H' 'E' double hockey-sticks Alabama!!!
Just speaking for those I know who are very serious indeed about things like this. I just can't say they don't believe in this team.
I do know you were fishing though.
Hope I did my job and provided you with at least a little entertainment!May not like it, but I support the decision to say whatever it is.
Give em 'H' 'E' double hockey-sticks Alabama!!!
PlayerUA, i am with u 100%.
People Dont give me this crap about ministers not liking the word hell. Everytime ive gone to church ive heard the word hell. I would bet that most people that dont like the chant are of age 50+ AKA the fans that sit on the west side of the stadium, AKA the fans that never stand up and cheer and tell people who stand up and cheer to sit down, AKA the fans with all the money who have pull at the University. I think everbody gets my drift. These r the same fans that complain during the whole game about how we should throw the ball more, then when we throw an INT they say we should run the ball more. Also i do agree with PlayerUA about the fact of us not playing rammer jammer before games now is saying we dont think our team is going to winand not a moral thing. Lets see, we do play it before every basketball game, oh wait, we went to the elite 8 last year and alot of people think we will win the SEC title this year. So they have confidence in our bball team winning. We are trying to make BDS the most electric stadium in the nation, its hard doing that when we cant even say the word hell, and when we have older fans telling us to sit down and be quiet. Now i do know not all fans of 50+ are like this. I am just saying from my own experiences(i have season tickets and go to most away games) that i have never had somebody under the age of 40 tell me to sit down and be quiet. On the other hand i have had fans of 50+ tell me to sit down many of times. I dont cuss them out, i just tell them to please give their tickets to younger fans and watch the game on tv where they can turn their volume down on their TV. 1 more thing i just thought about, how many times does our cheerleaders say " Is alabama ready. HELLLLLL YEA). This is not about the word hell, this is about a few of our rich old fans thinking we arent going to win and not be cocky when THEY think we arent going to win. So here is what i have to say to those fans, "WE'RE GONNA BEAT THE HELL OUTTA YOU, RAMMER JAMMER, YELLOW HAMMER, GIVEM HELL ALBAMA.
ROLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE
People Dont give me this crap about ministers not liking the word hell. Everytime ive gone to church ive heard the word hell. I would bet that most people that dont like the chant are of age 50+ AKA the fans that sit on the west side of the stadium, AKA the fans that never stand up and cheer and tell people who stand up and cheer to sit down, AKA the fans with all the money who have pull at the University. I think everbody gets my drift. These r the same fans that complain during the whole game about how we should throw the ball more, then when we throw an INT they say we should run the ball more. Also i do agree with PlayerUA about the fact of us not playing rammer jammer before games now is saying we dont think our team is going to winand not a moral thing. Lets see, we do play it before every basketball game, oh wait, we went to the elite 8 last year and alot of people think we will win the SEC title this year. So they have confidence in our bball team winning. We are trying to make BDS the most electric stadium in the nation, its hard doing that when we cant even say the word hell, and when we have older fans telling us to sit down and be quiet. Now i do know not all fans of 50+ are like this. I am just saying from my own experiences(i have season tickets and go to most away games) that i have never had somebody under the age of 40 tell me to sit down and be quiet. On the other hand i have had fans of 50+ tell me to sit down many of times. I dont cuss them out, i just tell them to please give their tickets to younger fans and watch the game on tv where they can turn their volume down on their TV. 1 more thing i just thought about, how many times does our cheerleaders say " Is alabama ready. HELLLLLL YEA). This is not about the word hell, this is about a few of our rich old fans thinking we arent going to win and not be cocky when THEY think we arent going to win. So here is what i have to say to those fans, "WE'RE GONNA BEAT THE HELL OUTTA YOU, RAMMER JAMMER, YELLOW HAMMER, GIVEM HELL ALBAMA.
ROLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE
RolltideFanz said:
Man... there's gotta ba a punchline in that quote somewhere!
RAMMER JAMMER, YELLOW HAMMER, GIVEM HELL ALBAMA!!!
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