Infrastructure: Memphis I40 bridge over Mississippi river closed indefinitely after stress fracture discovered

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Since moving to Charleston 3+ years ago I have discovered that it is a collection of "islands" or "marsh" separated by rivers. You have to go over a bridge to go anywhere...some are really old and others are newer...all are scenic. The queen of the bridges, Ravenel, was discovered to have some stress fractures a couple of years ago. Never completely shut down, but lanes closed as they repaired the cables.
that looks similar to some of the massive bridges in hong kong.

 

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They're not applying 1.2 million pounds of pressure, but I'll let that slide. If they're using PT cables before doing cover plates, that makes me wonder if they're trying to close the gap. Maybe it just means they're using PT cables to take the tension that the girder is "supposed" to be taking. They could be using those cables to temporality take this fake tension that's no longer present, remove the bad section, rehab/coverplate, then remove the cables. Interesting.

Also, I bet that failed chunk of steel goes to a lab and has all of the stuff done to it.
 

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They're not applying 1.2 million pounds of pressure, but I'll let that slide. If they're using PT cables before doing cover plates, that makes me wonder if they're trying to close the gap. Maybe it just means they're using PT cables to take the tension that the girder is "supposed" to be taking. They could be using those cables to temporality take this fake tension that's no longer present, remove the bad section, rehab/coverplate, then remove the cables. Interesting.

Also, I bet that failed chunk of steel goes to a lab and has all of the stuff done to it.
Obviously, they designed in enough redundancy for this potentially catastrophic failure. Do you know if they run through failure scenarios like this (and various others) in advance?
 

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They're not applying 1.2 million pounds of pressure, but I'll let that slide. If they're using PT cables before doing cover plates, that makes me wonder if they're trying to close the gap. Maybe it just means they're using PT cables to take the tension that the girder is "supposed" to be taking. They could be using those cables to temporality take this fake tension that's no longer present, remove the bad section, rehab/coverplate, then remove the cables. Interesting.

Also, I bet that failed chunk of steel goes to a lab and has all of the stuff done to it.
I know you're speaking English because I understood the words "close the gap."
 
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We have a major immediate need to address infrastructure and it looks like there is an agreement on a bill that can get through the Senate. I hope they stop this stupid arguing about tying other bills to this one and take what we can get now. Deal with the rest later.
 

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We have a major immediate need to address infrastructure and it looks like there is an agreement on a bill that can get through the Senate. I hope they stop this stupid arguing about tying other bills to this one and take what we can get now. Deal with the rest later.
Or, at least not announce that you're tying the two together and tethering it to a veto threat, all just to keep your progressives happy. I count this as Biden's first really serious gaff...
 

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they (the dems) have been talking about a two track strategy for infrastructure for a while and the republicans are running around trying to re-frame the narrative by claiming he surprised them. the republicans knew this was the plan. i'm glad to see the dems play hardball for a change.


The entire issue here, the entire core of the negotiation, actually has nothing to do with Republicans. It’s about negotiations and agreements between Democrats. The only reason Republicans are even involved in one of the two parts of the package is as a way to secure deal among Democrats – specifically between Biden, Chuck Schumer and Manchin and Sinema.

Indeed, in his statement Biden makes the heart of the matter really clear. Linkage – the idea that both bills must happen together to gain the President’s support, or indeed the support of congressional Democrats – has nothing to do with Republicans. It doesn’t rely on their votes. It asks nothing of them. It’s an agreement between Democrats about legislation Republicans universally oppose. That’s the awkwardness of the Republicans position. They can’t point to [any] pledge Biden has reneged on or new condition he’s placed on them.
 
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they (the dems) have been talking about a two track strategy for infrastructure for a while and the republicans are running around trying to re-frame the narrative by claiming he surprised them. the republicans knew this was the plan. i'm glad to see the dems play hardball for a change.

Will you feel that way if the whole thing falls on its face because he's embarrassed them in front of their constituents?
 

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Will you feel that way if the whole thing falls on its face because he's embarrassed them in front of their constituents?
i'm not sure who he embarrassed. the gop was not surprised by this, so if they are embarrassed, it is on them. regardless, i don't think it's going to fall on its face. i guess we will see.