Is Ai coming for your job? (also, updated Ai development)

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automation and machine learning are completely different than generative AI which is what you are seeing now.
And anyone who has kept up with the progress generative Ai has made in just the last year alone will be amazed.

How many jobs has it already cost? Tyler Perry's $800 million expansion alone is startling, but across TV and film production the numbers are already incredible.
 
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And anyone who has kept up with the progress generative Ai has made in just the last year alone will be amazed.

How many jobs has it already cost? Tyler Perry's $800 million expansion alone is startling, but across TV and film production the numbers are already incredible.
What are your thoughts on music industry impact? You had autotune and the likes before, but now you have completely AI generated songs. Heck The Beatles even released a new single with computer generated John Lennon lyrics.
 

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I work at an IT managed services company. Our goal the next 18 months is to replace as much of the level 1 technical staff as we can with AI and automation (we have really told them this yet), and the paying customer will get a better experience from it.

I struggle with computer generated creative art(film, music, writing, digital art). Does the paying customer really get a better experience from it?
 
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What are your thoughts on music industry impact? You had autotune and the likes before, but now you have completely AI generated songs. Heck The Beatles even released a new single with computer generated John Lennon lyrics.
It's already hammering the younger, less established engineers. Songwriting is a no-brainer in pop music, which has become largely glorified karaoke over the last decade or so. Synthesized genres such as pop and hip-hop are in the greatest trouble. Ai 'talent' is just a matter of time, though real engineering is still likely a few years away.

Tennessee has been proactive wrt protecting existing talent, but that doesn't mean we won't have generative Ai 'singers' sooner than later:

As a whole the music industry hasn't done itself any favors with (overall) declined sound quality (the so-called 'loudness war') and poor pop song writing / crafting. Most young listeners today have been so inundated with 'glorified karaoke' that they wouldn't be able to process a top40 list from forty years ago, so the leap to purely manufactured songs isn't a big one. The rush-to-the-bottom re: image over substance means we no longer have a slew of artists like Prince, Phil Collins, Michael Jackson, etc in pop music - most 'artists' today probably cannot even play their hits on a piano.

Thankfully, I'm pretty well established in my career and fairly financially flexible (debt-free both personally and professionally) so I'm not worried about myself, but the recording industry needs to get its act together or it's going to lose a lot of talented folks. Sadly, there's never been much of a push to unionize like we see in TV / film (example: SAG-AFTRA) so large companies can overwhelm most artists. And they will, as labels are now run entirely by bean-counters rather than artists / producers / engineers as they once were.

The future of recorded art - both visual and auditory - looks fairly bleak right now.
 

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I struggle with computer generated creative art(film, music, writing, digital art). Does the paying customer really get a better experience from it?
No, because great art is derived from human emotion.

There will always be great art, but I fear the future of most art is akin to fast food rather than fine dining.
 

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No, because great art is derived from human emotion.

There will always be great art, but I fear the future of most art is akin to fast food rather than fine dining.
Thanks for the response. It was kind of a rhetorical question.

When you think back at history of the human race, it is always the creatives that are studied. Picasso, Beethoven, Michelangelo, Homer, all the way back to 32000 BC when someone painted a horse in a cave in France. This is what makes us, us. When we no longer create, what happens?
 

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Again we are taking about generative AI. Not terminator. It isn't even the same conversation.
True but when most people today think AI they are thinking of the 'rise of the thinking machines'. Artificial Intelligence has been around since the time of the ENIAC in the 40s and commercially since the time of the UNIVAC in the 50s.
 

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True but when most people today think AI they are thinking of the 'rise of the thinking machines'. Artificial Intelligence has been around since the time of the ENIAC in the 40s and commercially since the time of the UNIVAC in the 50s.
What we're discussing is new, or at least new wrt to computing capabilities.

To act as if these new iterations are the same thing that's been around for decades is either ignoring what they are or 'whistling past the graveyard'...
 

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What we're discussing is new, or at least new wrt to computing capabilities.

To act as if these new iterations are the same thing that's been around for decades is either ignoring what they are or 'whistling past the graveyard'...
What are you talking about? NASA clearly was using AI as early as the 60's to fake the moon landing videos.
 

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AI is still subject to how it is programmed. Just look at this. When AI is as stupid as people who get on the internet and write nonsense like this, one has to wonder just how much of a threat this is to any thinking person's job.
 
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automation and machine learning are completely different than generative AI which is what you are seeing now.
Well, not completely different. Automation and machine learning are the building blocks of generative AI. Today's advancements in AI could not have happened without advancements in those areas first and generative AI uses forms of machine learning to build its knowledge that it uses to create data.
I think when people hear AI they think of Starnet. We 're not even close
Uh, you mean "Skynet".
Again we are taking about generative AI. Not terminator. It isn't even the same conversation.
True, because one is real life and the other is science fiction (for now...).
 
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Well, not completely different. Automation and machine learning are the building blocks of generative AI. Today's advancements in AI could not have happened without advancements in those areas first and generative AI uses forms of machine learning to build its knowledge that it uses to create data.

Uh, you mean "Skynet".

True, because one is real life and the other is science fiction (for now...).
One camp for AI will say that AI is simply a tool in the historical vein of the chainsaw versus the saw or the automobile versus the horse. I think there's a side to this that is correct. That the smart user will amplify their capability with AI. There will be something lost in the bargain as there always is. You lose some control, creativity, etc., but you gain speed and capability.

The other camp sees what we lose, especially jobs and purpose when a machine can do 75% of your job in a tiny fraction of the time.

We will be forced to recon with the results of mass job losses, mass retraining, and a huge loss of purpose in our population without many of the creative jobs available to make money. I think taxing AI's productivity will be critical, as we tax human productivity via their paychecks. That tax has to pay for many of the things we already pay for with human payroll taxes etc.
 
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Well, not completely different. Automation and machine learning are the building blocks of generative AI. Today's advancements in AI could not have happened without advancements in those areas first and generative AI uses forms of machine learning to build its knowledge that it uses to create data.

Uh, you mean "Skynet".

True, because one is real life and the other is science fiction (for now...).
yes
 

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