Is it Really the Time to Consider Firing CKD???

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If you want to get a former player's on the field perspective during the game needs to listen to AJ McCarron on the McCready & Siskey show. What he had to say about the team will change your mind about not wanting to clean house. The things he saw on the sidelines, on the field and other "notes" he took during the game will give you a HUGE DOSE of reality where this program is and how far the quality of football has fallen. I can't post it here because of the language. But I recommend everyone to watch it.
 
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If you want to get a former player's on the field perspective during the game needs to listen to AJ McCarron on the McCready & Siskey show. What he had to say about the team will change your mind about not wanting to clean house. The things he saw on the sidelines, on the field and other "notes" he took during the game will give you a HUGE DOSE of reality of where this program is and how far the quality of football has fallen. I can't post it here because of the language. But I recommend everyone to watch it.
Now that's scary & I believe it, results on the field, is a reflection of team attitude & chemistry, I literally cannot post what those results are saying without being banned..
 

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Firing Deboer would do more damage to us than keeping him.

I already knew that guy was a clown as soon as he started talking about Jon Gruden. Then he kept talking and I had to stop as soon as he started talking about LGBTQ being the issue
I can't really speak to the rest of the stuff, but I did want to know what he was talking about so I watched a little bit of it.

He mentioned an "anxiety doll" for Ryan Williams and I was a bit curious about it. Ryan Williams did indeed walk into the stadium carrying some weird stuffed animal. I desperately hope it was given to him by a sick kid or something, but I saw it defended as "drip".

If a player actually brought a stuffed animal with him as part of his outfit I would have relished someone like Scott Cochran tearing it to shreds.
 

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If you want to get a former player's on the field perspective during the game needs to listen to AJ McCarron on the McCready & Siskey show. What he had to say about the team will change your mind about not wanting to clean house. The things he saw on the sidelines, on the field and other "notes" he took during the game will give you a HUGE DOSE of reality of where this program is and how far the quality of football has fallen. I can't post it here because of the language. But I recommend everyone to watch it.
I saw the one with he and Trent Richardson and it looked like he was fixing to cry when talking about the game.
 

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The culture is bad at Bama. Players seem to be happy just pulling in all the NIL money and not caring too much if they win or lose.

My read is that last year, DeBoer compromised on discipline to keep players from leaving, and now he may have an impossible task of reinstating discipline. At this point, he may need to not focus on wins and losses and start benching players who are not putting in the effort. Play the freshmen if that’s what it takes to get the players’ attention. If they want to enter the portal, let them. I'd rather see inferior talent fight their butts off than what I saw from most of them on Saturday. I feel bad for the few players who did fight hard.
 

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This stuff is really troubling....it's really embarrassing what is being said. I don't know if some of it is true, but what AJ said is revealing!
 

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If you want to get a former player's on the field perspective during the game needs to listen to AJ McCarron on the McCready & Siskey show. What he had to say about the team will change your mind about not wanting to clean house. The things he saw on the sidelines, on the field and other "notes" he took during the game will give you a HUGE DOSE of reality where this program is and how far the quality of football has fallen. I can't post it here because of the language. But I recommend everyone to watch it.
@Bamabuzzard how accurate is this ChatGPT summary of AJ's perspective?

Isaiah: Can you give me a TLDR summary of what AJ McCarron said about Alabama football after the FSU game on the McCready & Siskey show?

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Here’s your TL;DR—with a forward-thinking spin and just a wink of that understated sarcasm you enjoy:
What AJ McCarron Said After the FSU Loss on the McCready & Siskey Show
  • "Different era, different priorities." McCarron hasn’t pulled any punches: the Alabama of today isn’t the Alabama of his time. He pointed out that the discipline and team-first mindset that defined the program under Saban have quietly slipped away.YouTube+8Facebook+8New York Post+8YouTube+8Saturday Down South+8New York Post+8
  • The social media/NIL hangover is real. He scoffed at how current players may be more preoccupied with “TikTok, reels, personal highlight clips, and maximizing NIL money” rather than the one goal that once united everyone: winning.Saturday Down South+1
  • Team unity used to be the currency. McCarron recalled that back in his day, the mutual understanding was simple: you win games as a team, and personal gains will follow. That connection between team success and personal opportunity, he argues, is eroding.en.wikipedia.org+4Saturday Down South+4New York Post+4
  • No shade on the coaches—just reality. He was careful to note that his critique wasn’t directed at the coaching staff or Kalen DeBoer himself. Rather, it’s just a different era—and fans might need to recalibrate their expectations accordingly.Saturday Down South+1
Why This Matters
Alabama’s identity, that ironclad brand of excellence built on tight-knit discipline and collective purpose, is showing early signs of fraying. McCarron’s message? Let’s not sugarcoat it—if modern distractions continue to run the day, the culture that once fueled greatness might keep slipping.
 
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I think with the NIL thing, other programs have more NIL funds than Bama and are able to maintain a good culture, I'm just confused as to why we can't seem to do that. We got players making TikToks, 2 players with a podcast, KP on his phone in warmups. It doesn't seem like players are locked in and focused, like they forgot the season started.

I wasn't at the game but I watched it on TV and the sideline was dead, no emotion. What happened to this?

 
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I think with the NIL thing, other programs have more NIL funds than Bama and are able to maintain a good culture, I'm just confused as to why we can't seem to do that. We got players making TikToks, 2 players with a podcast, KP on his phone in warmups. It doesn't seem like players are locked in and focused, like they forgot the season started.

I wasn't at the game but I watched it on TV and the sideline was dead, no emotion. What happened to this?

I was at the game, aside from the other things I posted, you are correct. The FSU fans I was there with nor myself got the impression the Bama players acted like it was gameday. A couple here and there, but not as a whole.
 
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McCready had a tough observation, "Everyone else is still playing the uniform. Everyone else is playing against the standard. If you don't play up to the standard, you'll get beat, and they'll keep doing it for a LONG time..."
 
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The culture is bad at Bama. Players seem to be happy just pulling in all the NIL money and not caring too much if they win or lose.

My read is that last year, DeBoer compromised on discipline to keep players from leaving, and now he may have an impossible task of reinstating discipline. At this point, he may need to not focus on wins and losses and start benching players who are not putting in the effort. Play the freshmen if that’s what it takes to get the players’ attention. If they want to enter the portal, let them. I'd rather see inferior talent fight their butts off than what I saw from most of them on Saturday. I feel bad for the few players who did fight hard.
I can see their point, buttttt, FSU, Oklahoma, Vandy are all dealing with those same issues & whipped us on the football field..

Their coaches obviously has handled those issues wayyyyy better than ours..Handling the outside noise as Coach Saban would say

The results on the football field never lies & tells the tales of a football team or a coaching staff

If that makes any sense..
 
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McCarron's points about the game while on the sidelines

* No energy by the team

* The lack of effort was alarming

* Ryan Williams is scared on the field

* Lawson's effort was "bad" on mulitple plays

* The players have no clue what it means to play for Alabama

* The right side of our OL has "real" problems. They're bad.

* FSU's defense was getting to the QB with basic four-man fronts and stunts. Nothing complex

* Alabama has about $20 million for NIL money. The schools with more money have two to three times that amount to spend. If Alabama doesn't start winning, they will not be able to compete for top players and will quickly fall far behind regardless of the coach we have. Right now they're getting players based on what Alabama was under Saban. If things don't turn around fast, that will stop being the case.

* After talking with several people on staff, K Russell is nowhere near ready to play. So people clamoring to get him reps need to stop. People within the program said he's nowhere close to being ready to play.

AJ was highly upset at what he saw Saturday and really doesn't know what it's going to take to fix it.
 
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If you want to get a former player's on the field perspective during the game needs to listen to AJ McCarron on the McCready & Siskey show. What he had to say about the team will change your mind about not wanting to clean house. The things he saw on the sidelines, on the field and other "notes" he took during the game will give you a HUGE DOSE of reality where this program is and how far the quality of football has fallen. I can't post it here because of the language. But I recommend everyone to watch it.
Man it was brutal. I think Siskey also made a very valid point about “national recruiting”. Players that grow up in this state or in the South know what it means to play for Alabama. It is the reason many people had a great deal of concerns with the lack of signees from in state.

I think is not just a question about the culture CKD brought with him from Washington. Are we also seeing us recruit four star and five star players where “playing with an edge” on Saturdays just isn’t in them? Yeah Germie and Parker played well (two Washington kids) but I’m beginning to wonder if in CNS last couple of years and CKD first class (along with portal departures) left a a “milk toast” attitude across the program?
 
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I think with the NIL thing, other programs have more NIL funds than Bama and are able to maintain a good culture, I'm just confused as to why we can't seem to do that. We got players making TikToks, 2 players with a podcast, KP on his phone in warmups. It doesn't seem like players are locked in and focused, like they forgot the season started.

I wasn't at the game but I watched it on TV and the sideline was dead, no emotion. What happened to this?

Something probably no one wants to face, although I have seen it alluded to here a few times, things were slipping since 2021.

In Kalen DeBoer's defense, he did not walk into a great culture/lockerroom/etc that he would have say, in 2018. Coach Saban was letting things slip in those last few seasons that he would have never tolerated pre-2020. So I think that's part of the reason Alabama is struggling in this new generation compared to others.

The same things win that always won (as Coach Bryant would say). And those things include discipline and accountability. Yeah, guys can leave and get paid elsewhere. So you have still got to find guys willing to put in the work. Julio Jones types. It's possible and others are still doing it, and Alabama has completely lost its way.
 

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One side of the coin is CKD's leadership and coaching. This article explains the other side of the coin: why we're going to get left behind in recruiting, NIL, and replacing CKD if fired.

"We spend to win."

 

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McCarron's points about the game while on the sidelines

* No energy by the team

* The lack of effort was alarming

* Ryan Williams is scared on the field

* Lawson's effort was "bad" on mulitple plays

* The players have no clue what it means to play for Alabama

* The right side of our OL has "real" problems. They're bad.

* FSU's defense was getting to the QB with basic four-man fronts and stunts. Nothing complex

* Alabama has about $20 million for NIL money. The schools with more money have two to three times that amount to spend. If Alabama doesn't start winning, they will not be able to compete for top players and will quickly for far behind regardless of the coach we have. Right now they're getting players based on what Alabama was under Saban. If things don't turn around fast, that will stop being the case.

* After talking with several people on staff, K Russell is nowhere near ready to play. So people clamoring to get him reps need to stop. People within the program said he's nowhere close to being ready to play.

AJ was highly upset at what he saw Saturday and really doesn't know what it's going to take to fix it.
Just listened to it. He also said the people at PFF that ranked Alabama's Oline high need to be fired.
 
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