Is our strength & conditioning program showing elite results?

[bamaga]

We are talking Oline, so I will say this. Anyone remember when we barely beat Arkansas about 7 years ago. Ryan Kelly was hurt and the offensive line got dominated By winless Arkansas. maybe McLaughlin can help with the line calls , maybe he has what it takes to be a quality center .
Devonta Smith tweeted Saturday, ‘why are we doing all this checking at the LOS? ‘ which got me thinking. The center use to call the blocking assignments presnap, I don’t really see that any more. Which got me thinking of what Devonta said. If we are checking and changing plays late in the play clock, do we have time to reset the blocking assignments. Who is calling the assignments? maybe that’s a reason for confusion up front.

 

[Ledsteplin]

We are talking Oline, so I will say this. Anyone remember when we barely beat Arkansas about 7 years ago. Ryan Kelly was hurt and the offensive line got dominated By winless Arkansas. maybe McLaughlin can help with the line calls , maybe he has what it takes to be a quality center .
Devonta Smith tweeted Saturday, ‘why are we doing all this checking at the LOS? ‘ which got me thinking. The center use to call the blocking assignments presnap, I don’t really see that any more. Which got me thinking of what Devonta said. If we are checking and changing plays late in the play clock, do we have time to reset the blocking assignments. Who is calling the assignments? maybe that’s a reason for confusion up front.

Would calling the assignments be Marone's responsibility?

 

[B1GTide]

Would calling the assignments be Marone's responsibility?

No, that is done on the field. But he teaches them all of it.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

It's not S&C - look at how the DL holds up and sheds blocks. Lots of power AND explosiveness.

When your OL is poorly coached / unsure regarding assignments, etc., they respond slowly which causes footwork and leverage issues. I suspect our OL are as quick and strong as they've ever been at Bama, they just need better coaching and more experience.

Precisely

 

[colbysullivan]

No, that is done on the field. But he teaches them all of it.

Lol at “teaches”

 

[CoolBreeze]

Everyone is looking for that chink in the armor. Really dumb thread.

 

[deliveryman35]

I’ve wondered this myself. Whatever the case, the first half of Saturday’s game was the worst half of offense that I’ve seen from a Nick Saban-coached team in the last 10 years.

 

[BamaInBham]

I've been concerned about the push off of the line for designed running plays. We're missing something there. Whether it's coaching, easily spotted play-calling, explosiveness, leverage, weight, fatigue, youth, or strength, we could be getting more push than we have been this part of the year. I'm not enough of a student of the game to say I understand what it is.

But, on the other hand, November is always a very tough month for Alabama football, with every team we play, having seen 90% of what we can do and what weaknesses we have. If you look back over November scores under Coach Nick Saban, you'll see this is when we struggle the most to win games and scores are closer than we want.

It's simply because of the schedule: Bama plays LSU and AU and the SECC game. LSU has consistently been one of the top 3 teams in the country who could physically stand up to Alabama for the past 14 years since 2008 and AU is a tough rival. Nevertheless. Bama is 10-4 vs AU and 12-3 vs LSU. Hard to beat that. Add to that the SECC game where Alabama is 7-1, 4-1 vs UF, 2-0 vs UGA, 1-0 vs Mizz. So, that's 29-8, 78.4% vs big time opponents in high-stakes games in Nov/early Dec since 2008 with only 14 of those 37 games at home. No one does that but Alabama.

 

[Jay Hughes]

This is what CNS was talking about last week when he was trying to fire the team up. Not picking on you because I also feel that this has been a down year. We finished the regular season at 11-1 and most Bama fans would the season a grade of incomplete. If he would admit it so would CNS. In another post someone talked about how young this team is. No matter how the rest of the season goes let's hope they remember all the lost opportunities and use that as momentum for next year.

Heck, let’s use that momentum and Win a Championship!!!!

 

[rolltide_21]

Well, we’ve had one non contact knee injury this year which was to Roydell Williams. McClellan got clipped while running out of bounds. But, during Cochran’s tenure non contact and soft tissue injuries were common place.

Last year was the only proof I needed to see what these guys can do. They’ve continued the trends in 2021too.

 

[Mystical]

Everyone is looking for that chink in the armor. Really dumb thread.

I don't think this is a dumb thread. Interesting I had not thought of Scott Chochran in a very long time. Interesting that he missed some time in his on field role. They moved Muschamp to that spot and Georgia defense got even better. So I am all for Scott getting back to his on field role preferable this week.

 

[rolltide_21]

I don't think this is a dumb thread. Interesting I had not thought of Scott Chochran in a very long time. Interesting that he missed some time in his on field role. They moved Muschamp to that spot and Georgia defense got even better. So I am all for Scott getting back to his on field role preferable this week.

Scott Cochran was the special teams coach and Muschamp has been in that role (supposedly) this year. Now if Muschamp is actually the ST coach is another discussion. Given how Kirby operates it would not suprise me if a GA is doing the ST stuff and Muschamp is functioning as co-DC or playing a major role in their scheming.

 

[bamaslammer]

The way the defense has been strong in the 4th quarter even when they have been on the field too long and the fact that the injuries primarily are at RB which is a high injury position suggest the S&C are as good now as it was last year. The OL issues in my opinion are a combination of coaching and quality of the recruits we signed in the last 3 years. Keep in mind that high school OL talent is notoriously hard to measure since the majority of the people they play against are 50 or more pounds lighter than they are. How much is coaching vs talent I do not know. The guy came in with good NFL credentials but not all coaching skills translate between the two leagues.

 

[bamaslammer]

following up on the OL: We have three five star recruits, one is Neal who is gone after this season and the other two are buried on the depth chart. the rest of them are a smattering of 3 and 4 star guys, some of whom were not hot recruits. Compare that to years past we would have 3 or 4 five star guys starting.

 

[Cruloc]

Owens struggled before and got replaced by George. Auburn was just too overwhelming for George, the game moved too fast. I don't know if he was thinking about assignments or just completely flustered or both. OL is probably the toughest position for a new guy to start, but my goodness, at times he looked like he was just giving half effort at best.

He will learn and grow into being a capable OL......if the coaching is adequate and he's learning and practicing what he's learning. Do we have what we need at the OL coach position? From what I've seen no, but I'm just a fan and have no insight other than what is visible on the field.

We know we have OL issues, so why do the play calls continue to be plays we can see the OL is having issues blocking consistently. Putting Bryce back there in a collapsing pocket with the apparent mindset that "the guys will block this time." Why no roll outs or RB screens or an extra blocker in the backfield like Outz? We don't seem to adjust or change. That's on BoB.

But we also have Bryce seemingly calling an audible every single time presnap...even on the road where they are struggling to hear. That needs to stop, at least on almost every single play. He's running the play clock down to the point where the DL knows when he snap it and gets a head start.

 

[crimsonaudio]

But we also have Bryce seemingly calling an audible every single time presnap...even on the road where they are struggling to hear. That needs to stop, at least on almost every single play. He's running the play clock down to the point where the DL knows when he snap it and gets a head start.

Is he calling audibles or protections?

 

[Bama_N_Va]

The experience part will take care of itself. Honestly, it should be showing fruits by this point in the season, but simply isn’t. Which gets to the coaching part.

I actually think we’ve regressed. And given the abysmal OL performances late in the year, against less-than-stellar DLs, I’ll be most interested to see who the OL coach is in 2022.

I agree, I think our OC and OL Coach have set us back about 215 years in philosophy and execution!

 

[CajunCrimson]

The experience part will take care of itself. Honestly, it should be showing fruits by this point in the season, but simply isn’t. Which gets to the coaching part.

I actually think we’ve regressed. And given the abysmal OL performances late in the year, against less-than-stellar DLs, I’ll be most interested to see who the OL coach is in 2022.

All you need is one hole in the dam to flood the village. Right now we can’t fix the RT problem.

we have the best LT in football. And our RG has tons of experience.
I’m just surprised JC isn’t ready.

 

[Cruloc]

Is he calling audibles or protections?

I don't know, now that you mention it I would assume it's protections. He does get whomever is in the backfield with him to shift as well, presumably to pick up a free blitzer. I still think when he's doing that when on the road and they can't hear, its causing issues. 1. are they hearing him. 2. do the ones with less experience know what to do. 3. the play clock gets pretty close to a point when the DL knows he's got to snap it.

Are we creating our own problems....adding to existing problems? I mean honestly none of it matters when one guy on the line looks like he's going at less than half effort. But how much of that effort issue was because he was just completely overwhelmed vs how much of it was just the speed of the edge rush against his effort and technique?

I feel like I'm talking myself into a circular reference here, I apologize.