Is Phil's Back Against the Wall?

numbersman

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While surfing the channels before I conked out on the recliner last night, I came across the UT UGA game on CSS. How pathetic the Vols played! Did UGA ever get a butt-whippin' like that from UT?

With all of the controversy swirling around Fulmer, how long will he endure? Can he have another crappy season, or will even the notorious Fulmer have to "put up or get out" this season?

I do not lok for UT to have a good year yet again. It looks like the NCAA does not have to kill their program. They look pretty dead already. Justice, it appears, has already been served. It just goes to prove that what you sow, you will reap.


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What wall could support his back?

Fulmer isn't very smart(of course, he works at UT, not Lawrence Livermore) if he thought that no-one would ever be able to dig up evidence of his malfeasance.

He probably will become more and more paranoid and may end up losing his job just from poor performance. I don't think that UT cares about his conduct any more than they appear to care about the questionable conduct of some of their players. However, they do care about winning and if he continues to break down in critical games, he'll be gone.

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"I've never been quarantined, but the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -- George Carlin

[This message has been edited by IH8Orange (edited 04-30-2004).]
 
Honestly I don't believe UT had a bad season. They were 10-3. They lost to Georgia who definitely has a better coach and the talent now rivals UT. Fulmer can be out coached. The sneak by Florida and Bama. If he had lost to Bama and Florida then he would be in trouble. They finished up with a lack luster bowl game like the prior year.

It seems this year he will be starting a true freshmen at QB and the big difference is this time the defense is not as strong and the running game is no where near what Clausen got. It will be interesting.

Florida is the second game, where Leak will be 3 times better than last year. Florida has better talent and I believe it will show.

Auburn then travels to Knoxville. Keep in mind UT gets an off week before each game, but will they be able to stop the Cadillac? Auburn will be replacing some key defensive players. I think Auburn wins this.

Next game, no off week, is Georgia in Athens. Yep that's a loss for UT.

Red Flag!!! If these games hold true UT will have started off 1-3 with 2 consecutive losses at home. Not good! They then follow up later in the year with Bama and Notre Dame at home. Hopefully they drop both if not one of those. UT is by no means out of the top 15, but they have fallen from the perennial top 5 and lately top 10 AND they no longer look to be a threat to win the East.
 
By being quiet and allowing Fulmer to stay at UT in perpetuity, that would give Bama a chance to beat UT each season. Yes, he still owns Bama, but that is about the only arrow left in Fulmer's hat. Bowl victories, national prominence, SEC titles, and striking fear in the hearts of opponents has gone by the wayside.

For the last 3 or 4 years, many Bama fans have been myopic in their displeasure for Fulmer. So much so I wonder how many of them have noticed the distinct slide in the UT program.

UT is a very beatable program. Last season, the Vols finished a seemingly strong 10-3. However, the reality is that UT played 5 SEC teams with losing records, and struggled in 3 of those games (Bama and USC went to overtime, and UK trailed 13-7 late in the 4th quarter), and this includes a game with Duke where UT led 9-6 in the 4th quarter when Duke had the ball 1st and goal and failed to score as a result of two penalties called on the offensive tackle for lining up in the backfield.

The Vols were 1-2 against SEC teams with winning records, being flogged by UGA and having trailed Auburn 28-7 before some 11th hour scoring.

I do credit the Vols for a stunning upset of Miami in the Orange Bowl and a win over Marshall, which later beat Kansas State in Manhattan. The staff is to be congratualated for those wins. Still, the Vols were embarrassed for the 2nd straight year in the Peach Bowl, and the losing streak to UGA is now at 4.

More disturbing to me is that when the Vols fall behind they stay behind. Over the last 2 seasons, the Vols have lost 8 games (1 less than Bama this season, sorry, I couldn't resist). In 7 of those 8 losses, UT never led (UF, UGA, Bama, Maryland, Auburn, UGA and Clemson). In the other loss (Miami 2002), the Vols led 3-0 before losing 26-3. This tells me that in big games with comparable opponents, the lack of ingenuity and an offensive game plan is often fatal. UT does the same thing each week, at least on offense, irrespective of the opponent.

In big games, the Vols, when opposing a good coaching staff with commensurate talent, often find themselves trailing early and often. I can take the losses, but I can't take watching losses where UT trailed the whole game by double digits.

The program has returned precisely to where it was under Majors. The program remains equipped with great talent, but the Vols struggle against chief SEC rivals. The Vols pretty much beat the teams they should beat, and win about 1 of every 3 or 4 meaningful or so-called "separation" games. That translates to winning about 9 games each season and losing about 3 or 4. However, like Samson between the temple pillars when his hair had grown back, the Vols' talent remains capable of regaining its strength on a given Saturday (see Miami in the Orange Bowl in 2003, Notre Dame in South Bend in 1991).

In 2004, I look for the Vols to struggle with UGA, drop 2 or 3 other games, but get 1 big win when the Vols were predicted to lose by most of the media types.
 
poor wall
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I noticed a disconnect from the players and the staff when I saw that Kelly kid on the sidelines with a "concusion". I think there was another reason he wasnt playing.
 
In Knoxville, three games really matter - UT - UGA, UT-UF and UT-UA. Phil is probably going to win only one of these three this year. He won only one last year. And without DAD in the AD's office, without Roy in the SEC office and with the revelations about his alliance with the NCAA, I do not think that he will be able to sic the NCAA on UGA or UF, as he did to Alabama. Further, the embarresment he caused to the NCAA might cause him to loose his free pass with Indianapolis. Yes, I think he is in trouble.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TRU:
Further, the embarresment he caused to the NCAA might cause him to loose his free pass with Indianapolis. Yes, I think he is in trouble.</font>

Now that his dealings with the NCAA are public knowledge, if the NCAA sees a way to save their tail by sacrificing him, they'll do it in a heartbeat. They're working to protect themselves and him right now, but as the situation becomes more and more hopeless, self-preservation will take priority and he'll be thrown under the bus.

When you dance with the devil, you usually get burned.

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"I've never been quarantined, but the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -- George Carlin
 
IH8, I agree with you. If Phil's antics are aired in open court, the NCAA will claim that he was a rogue investigator that ran far beyond what they mandated him to do. "It's all Phil's fault. He decieved us". I also think that they will then be taking great pains to show the world that they do not favor UT even though Phil helped them get Bama. If that is the case, the Big Orange Pumpkin better watch out.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TommyMac:
Phatty's back should be against a wall.

And he should be wearing a blindfold.
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Just aim for the hole in the doughnut.
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"I've never been quarantined, but the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -- George Carlin
 
dang it blitz, you beat me to it.

He's gone after this year, hope he enjoyed his time there.

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I am afraid you are SO right. If we brought in Bill Walsh to coach the Offense we would still have JC at QB. You can't polish a turd.
-WSPTIGER on an AU board
 
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