Julio's academic position

[LCN]

No confusion . We began discussing the requirements for entry . The "easy" part . :wink:

 

[dayhiker]

Yeah, but the Just Win wasn't talking about that.

 

[derek4tide]

Staying eligible isn't THAT hard once in college. I'm not sure why you feel as if Julio needs a 24 (not many athletes score even close to that), but I gotta question that. Heck, people make 18's all of the time and succeed in college. Is Julio any different? :conf3:

If a "24" is what it took to succeed in college, the dropout rate would be unreal.

LOL. So true. I scored a 22 in 1984 and it took me 5 years to graduate. And it was never easy.

 

[Tider@GW_Law]

Football ought to be a Major anyway. If you plan on making your living as a lawyer, you study law. If you plan on making your living running a business, you study business administration. If you plan on making a living in athletics (playing, coaching, etc.) there should be a Major for it as well. It's time that someone makes some sense out of all this.

Ohio State allowed this, may still allow it, but needless to say, it was an obvious joke major. It brought all kinds of ridicule from media and even other school athletic staffs. More importantly, it caught the attention of the NCAA, which investigated the program very hard - about half or more of the classes were taught by football coaches and staff. I think Tressel was actually listed as the professor of a class on the major.

I think this would be the completely wrong message for Alabama to send. Just like the commercial says, "Most of our athletes go pro in something other than sports." We should prepare our student-athletes to do something other than play pro sports or sell used cars for a living.

 

[dayhiker]

I think it hit me that it wasn't all about the ACT when as a sophomore taking an engineering mechanics class a good friend dropped out and changed her major because engineering was too hard. She was a National Merit Scholar.

 

[drjamesm]

1,300,599 took the ACT last year. Average was 21.1

Is the average for all,b/c athletes may have a different average!

 

[AeroEngUA07]

I think it hit me that it wasn't all about the ACT when as a sophomore taking an engineering mechanics class a good friend dropped out and changed her major because engineering was too hard. She was a National Merit Scholar.

I wish there was a published number of National Merit Scholars that leave engineering every year. I saw several head over to business school in my 4 years at UA. Engineering the first 2 years is a whole different animal than just about any incoming freshman is used to. I had one class my first year in which I started the class with about 60 other people and finished with about 20 other people and about half of the class dropping in a single day. It was amusing.

 

[dayhiker]

I remember seeing a guy from HS at a HS football game during our first semester at college. I was complaining about Fortran, Calculus, and Chemistry. He said college was a snap and didn't see the difference with Basic, College Algebra, and Science for non-majors.

 

[37bamagrl]

I wish there was a published number of National Merit Scholars that leave engineering every year. I saw several head over to business school in my 4 years at UA. Engineering the first 2 years is a whole different animal than just about any incoming freshman is used to. I had one class my first year in which I started the class with about 60 other people and finished with about 20 other people and about half of the class dropping in a single day. It was amusing.

wasn't a national merit scholar - but count me in as one that left engineering and headed on over to the business school

calculus basically pushed me over that way...:eek2:

 

[dayhiker]

I once read that if you're smart enough to be an engineer, you're too smart to be an engineer. If you spent that much time and effort pursueing business you'd come out far ahead. Of course, that statement ignores the fact that a high percentage of engineers don't have the social graces for business.

 

[atlbamafan02]

Those test scores are in no way a measure of success or failure at the collegiate level. I scored a 19 on the ACT, had a 3.69 GPA and did very well in honors course (Calculus, AP Biology, Trig & Chemistry to name a few).

JJ has a 2.75 Core GPA and would need a total of 59 points on the ACT to fully qualify. They determine the points by adding your scores in English, Mathematics, Reading, and Science. If he had a 17 its possible he scored a 17 in all 4 thereby giving him a total of 68, which is more than the 59 he would need with his GPA. I think he's in good shape.

 

[derek4tide]

I once read that if you're smart enough to be an engineer, you're too smart to be an engineer. If you spent that much time and effort pursueing business you'd come out far ahead. Of course, that statement ignores the fact that a high percentage of engineers don't have the social graces for business.

lol. So very true.

 

[twjua]

I scored a 19 my Jr year in HS and did not really care to take the test. Never took it again. 24? come on. I found it a little more diffucult getting into college than once I was already in. Once I was in, it was more managable. Once you are in, ACT, SAT scores mean nothing. Only your GPA means something.

A 24 or you will struggle....please.

 

[bamanut_aj]

I got a 26 on the ACT and college kicked my arse. A lot of that had to do with poor study habits and awesome drinking habits.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I got a 26 on the ACT and college kicked my arse. A lot of that had to do with poor study habits and awesome drinking habits.

31 here, but you could have been my room-mate...

 

[bamanut_aj]

31 here, but you could have been my room-mate...

LOL

 

[Crimson Pig]

In spite of having an IQ of 132, my HS numbers weren't that great. I never studied and just did what I did. Had a 3.0 GPA and an ACT score of 27. Fact is, though...

The University has this program called Crimson Edge for people whose numbers aren't so hot...or at least, they did. He may be admitted under that being A.) A football player and B.) that Dr. Witt's recruiting rampage shalt not cease.

 

[Crimson Speed]

I once read that if you're smart enough to be an engineer, you're too smart to be an engineer. If you spent that much time and effort pursueing business you'd come out far ahead. Of course, that statement ignores the fact that a high percentage of engineers don't have the social graces for business.

Very true. It takes a special mind to excel in the engineering discipline. Most people don't fit the mold.
But, I can't begin to mention the number of engineers out there that fall far short of the talent to become good managers. The two just do not mix very well.

 

[cmmiller711]

I got a 30 and i got a 5 on the AP calculus exam and I'm havin a rough time keeping up. I'm changing from engineering next semester to something else.

On the other hand, my sister got a 22 and my dad got a 19 and they both graduated with honors in less than 4 years.

 

[uafan4life]

15 ACT is not very promising. If he can't get at least a 24, he'll have a rough time in college. I got a 29 and still struggled. But maybe mine was a lack of focus on things other than co-eds and beer.

Yeah, unfortunately a high ACT score is not necessarily indicative of college success. I had a 36 and flunked out my second semester!

There were some extenuating circumstances, but you get the point. High profile players who don't score well and/or have poor gpas are usually (note the word usually) one of two things: a guy who was kept eligible because of his football skills or a guy who struggled and worked hard to stay eligible for his football skills. The latter usually have a good work ethic, and that will serve you much better in college than a high act score (which is usually accompanied by a poor work ethic).