Kids Warned about illegal downloads...

Ldlane

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CBS News....

CBS) U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales visited a public school in Silicon Valley to remind a group of 7th and 8th grade students that illegally downloading music, movies and software is a form of stealing.

Kids Warned..

 
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It's On A Slab

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ldlane said:

[A mansion, somewhere, day. The agent has taken the boys for a ride and arrived here. He leads them to the main gate]

Detective: This is the home of Lars Ulrich, the drummer for Metallica. [they approach a bush] Look. There's Lars now, sitting by his pool. [he's seen sitting on the edge of a chaise longue, his face in his hands, softly sobbing]

Kyle: What's the matter with him?

Detective: This month he was hoping to have a gold-plated shark tank bar installed right next to the pool, but thanks to people downloading his music for free, he must now wait a few months before he can afford it.
 

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It's On A Slab said:
[A mansion, somewhere, day. The agent has taken the boys for a ride and arrived here. He leads them to the main gate]

Detective: This is the home of Lars Ulrich, the drummer for Metallica. [they approach a bush] Look. There's Lars now, sitting by his pool. [he's seen sitting on the edge of a chaise longue, his face in his hands, softly sobbing]

Kyle: What's the matter with him?

Detective: This month he was hoping to have a gold-plated shark tank bar installed right next to the pool, but thanks to people downloading his music for free, he must now wait a few months before he can afford it.
And the lesson here, boys and girls, is that Slabby thinks it is okay to steal - as long as you are stealing from the rich... :rolleyes:
 

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Downloading is the same thing as taping your friend's album in 1983! The only difference is the music industry found a way to "prove" you "taped" it and decided to cash in with far reaching lawsuits that sue people into submission. :rolleyes:
 

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HuntsvilleTider said:
Downloading is the same thing as taping your friend's album in 1983! The only difference is the music industry found a way to "prove" you "taped" it and decided to cash in with far reaching lawsuits that sue people into submission. :rolleyes:
You couldn't be any more wrong. There were a very limited number of friends who you could share your music with before Napster came along. Record companies knew it was happening, but the quality of the dupes was poor, so they acted as a help to the industry. If someone really liked the song but wanted a good copy, they had to buy it.

College students and digital recordings changed everything. One person can buy an album and rip it, then advertise it on "Napster" (used as an example whose history everyone is aware of). Millions could then pull down the album from around the world. I have friends who have never purchased an album because they get their favorite music for free on the internet, and the copies are as good as the original recording. That is shameful, and it is stealing.

Question - If the crime has no clear victims, is it still a crime? Answer - yes.

Question - If we knowingly take something that doesn't belong to us, does that make us a thief? Answer - yes.

Theft is theft, even if only the rich are effected. And, BTW, many struggling artists have their music downloaded every day too, and they are not rich. Sure, it helps them grow their audience, but if they never become popular enought to sign a big album deal, they will never reap the rewards of their hard work. But go ahead - keep stealing. Tell yourself it is no big deal. Compromise your values...
 

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You couldn't be any more wrong. There were a very limited number of friends who you could share your music with before Napster came along. Record companies knew it was happening, but the quality of the dupes was poor, so they acted as a help to the industry. If someone really liked the song but wanted a good copy, they had to buy it.

College students and digital recordings changed everything. One person can buy an album and rip it, then advertise it on "Napster" (used as an example whose history everyone is aware of). Millions could then pull down the album from around the world. I have friends who have never purchased an album because they get their favorite music for free on the internet, and the copies are as good as the original recording. That is shameful, and it is stealing.

Question - If the crime has no clear victims, is it still a crime? Answer - yes.

Question - If we knowingly take something that doesn't belong to us, does that make us a thief? Answer - yes.

Theft is theft, even if only the rich are effected. And, BTW, many struggling artists have their music downloaded every day too, and they are not rich. Sure, it helps them grow their audience, but if they never become popular enought to sign a big album deal, they will never reap the rewards of their hard work. But go ahead - keep stealing. Tell yourself it is no big deal. Compromise your values...
I used to feel differently about the downloading music situation, but I think that Napster has a good idea now where you can share you music with other members once you've bought the song.

The reason for the post is that don't you think that the AG could concentrate on Meth and other hard drugs in his speech? Or maybe teen suicide?
 

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ldlane said:
The reason for the post is that don't you think that the AG could concentrate on Meth and other hard drugs in his speech? Or maybe teen suicide?
What? So you are upset because he didn't pick a subject that you support? Come on. No matter what he spoke out against, someone would be ripping him. Just look at the thread about drugs...
 

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What? So you are upset because he didn't pick a subject that you support? Come on. No matter what he spoke out against, someone would be ripping him. Just look at the thread about drugs...
Not me, I support the control of narcotics, alcohol and tobacco (Marijuana included)!
 

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NYBamaFan said:
You couldn't be any more wrong. There were a very limited number of friends who you could share your music with before Napster came along. Record companies knew it was happening, but the quality of the dupes was poor, so they acted as a help to the industry. If someone really liked the song but wanted a good copy, they had to buy it.

College students and digital recordings changed everything. One person can buy an album and rip it, then advertise it on "Napster" (used as an example whose history everyone is aware of). Millions could then pull down the album from around the world. I have friends who have never purchased an album because they get their favorite music for free on the internet, and the copies are as good as the original recording. That is shameful, and it is stealing.

Question - If the crime has no clear victims, is it still a crime? Answer - yes.

Question - If we knowingly take something that doesn't belong to us, does that make us a thief? Answer - yes.

Theft is theft, even if only the rich are effected. And, BTW, many struggling artists have their music downloaded every day too, and they are not rich. Sure, it helps them grow their audience, but if they never become popular enought to sign a big album deal, they will never reap the rewards of their hard work. But go ahead - keep stealing. Tell yourself it is no big deal. Compromise your values...
Compromise my values? your values maybe. my values arent quite as black and white. Real bands who get out and tour, who dont play in stadiums, or fly in jets, arent being effected. Bands that are cramped up in a van from one city to the next, eating fast food and drinking beer paid for by the 7 t-shirts and 9 cd's they sold the night before, arent effected by music downloading. The only ones missing some profits are the mega stars, who btw produce crap for "music", your puff daddys, and brittany spears of the world. Do I feel for them? Hell no. Do I think downloading their music is a crime. Yes, but not for the reason of stealing. You sound like a smart dude NY, but always with the integrity this, values that. Your backing the wrong team.
 
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