LGBTQ Issues (Part 3)

[NationalTitles18]

Well...

 

[Go Bama]

So Colby is saying he could not be groomed but others are vulnerable. Makes one wonder which is abnormal. Well, not really. Prejudice is learned, not innate.

But where is the financial damage or physical harm? /s

 

[Huckleberry]

So you’re just ignoring the ridiculous amount of GenZ identifying as LGBTQ? You think it’s just coincidence?

Well, 28% of Gen Z identify as LGBTQ, but 15% of them say they're bisexual. Maybe, just maybe, more people are willing to admit they're not strictly straight than in the past. I'd say that a more accepting society combined with the availability of social media (which allows conversation and experience-sharing at never before seen levels) just might be more responsible for the increase than a bunch of primary teachers trying to influence the sexual preference of their students.

 

[colbysullivan]

Well, 28% of Gen Z identify as LGBTQ, but 15% of them say they're bisexual. Maybe, just maybe, more people are willing to admit they're not strictly straight than in the past. I'd say that a more accepting society combined with the availability of social media (which allows conversation and experience-sharing at never before seen levels) just might be more responsible for the increase than a bunch of primary teachers trying to influence the sexual preference of their students.

Of course social media contributes to it. Kids want to feel like they belong to something. Do the math…

 

[NationalTitles18]

 

[NationalTitles18]

Elon Musk Says His Trans Daughter Was ‘Killed by Woke Mind Virus’

The billionaire made the extraordinary claim in an interview with Jordan Peterson, adding that he “vowed to destroy” the “virus” after losing his child to it.

www.thedailybeast.com

This man has some serious issues and it's sad he allowed them to destroy his relationship with his daughter. Unfortunately, this is a common happening in these situations. Someone wanting to be their authentic selves is not the root of the issue, as he falsely claims, and I strongly doubt any person is going to be convinced by someone else to become transgender.

 

[NationalTitles18]

 

[tusks_n_raider]

This whole thing is sad really and heartbreaking.

It's also the very real reason why so many people have been afraid to be themselves. Why they have to hide who they are even from their own direct family.

I can't even begin to imagine the toll that has to take on someone's mental health. That fear that you will be completely rejected by a PARENT.

 

[NationalTitles18]

This whole thing is sad really and heartbreaking.

It's also the very real reason why so many people have been afraid to be themselves. Why they have to hide who they are even from their own direct family.

I can't even begin to imagine the toll that has to take on someone's mental health. That fear that you will be completely rejected by a PARENT.

100%.

Unless you have gone through it yourself or with someone you care for then there's no way to know how hateful people can be.

Or maybe you can read tidefans NS and get the smallest taste of it.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I can't even begin to imagine the toll that has to take on someone's mental health.

If it's a mental health issue it changes everything.

 

[Go Bama]

If it's a mental health issue it changes everything.

NT didn’t say it was a mental health issue. Not being able to be yourself takes a toll on one’s mental health.

 

[NationalTitles18]

It's also the very real reason why so many people have been afraid to be themselves. Why they have to hide who they are even from their own direct family.

I can't even begin to imagine the toll that has to take on someone's mental health. That fear that you will be completely rejected by a PARENT.

NT didn’t say it was a mental health issue. Not being able to be yourself takes a toll on one’s mental health.

I think he was responding to tusks, who was commenting on the very real mental health toll of having to hide who you are and the fear of being rejected by a parent (and too often, like Musk's daughter, being actually rejected by a parent). I didn't understand the comment's meaning in that context, but it was not made to me.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

I think he was responding to tusks, who was commenting on the very real mental health toll of having to hide who you are and the fear of being rejected by a parent (and too often, like Musk's daughter, being actually rejected by a parent). I didn't understand the comment's meaning in that context, but it was not made to me.

Exactly.

I was not saying someone who identifies as LGBTQ has a mental health issue or that it's a mental health issue.

Only that the fear of being rejected for who they are by a parent would obviously cause them untold amounts of mental health distress.

 

[Huckleberry]

Exactly.

I was not saying someone who identifies as LGBTQ has a mental health issue or that it's a mental health issue.

Only that the fear of being rejected for who they are by a parent would obviously cause them untold amounts of mental health distress.

And this is one reason that those "parental rights" laws that force teachers to out students to their parents are so misguided.

 

[crimsonaudio]

NT didn’t say it was a mental health issue. Not being able to be yourself takes a toll on one’s mental health.

I understand, I'm saying that if transgenderism is a mental health disorder, that is also a burden.

We love to think that medical science has everything figured out, yet we discover new things that reverse thoughts on what's healthy with some regularity. I mean, that's the basis of how science works - come up with a working idea, follow the data, continue. A few years ago transgenderism was considered a mental illness, then it wasn't, we've no idea what we'll know about it in the future - the book isn't closed on our knowledge of the human body, especially the brain.

 

[Go Bama]

I understand, I'm saying that if transgenderism is a mental health disorder, that is also a burden.

We love to think that medical science has everything figured out, yet we discover new things that reverse thoughts on what's healthy with some regularity. I mean, that's the basis of how science works - come up with a working idea, follow the data, continue. A few years ago transgenderism was considered a mental illness, then it wasn't, we've no idea what we'll know about it in the future - the book isn't closed on our knowledge of the human body, especially the brain.

No way I can prove it, but I don’t see transgenderism (if that’s a word) as any more of a mental illness than heterosexuality.

 

[NationalTitles18]

For anyone interesting in expanding their knowledge here's a link to some history and current state of things.

Maybe, and hear me out, we should listen to people who have expertise in areas where we don't. At least consider the information they give us more than random people on X (or its disturbed owner, who instead of repairing his relationship with his child would rather lash out at the world to "eradicate the woke mind virus" and in doing so make it even more miserable for people like his own child). We certainly should not be openly mocking and disparaging people for immutable characteristics of any sort.

Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis

The history and differential associated with gender dysphoria.

www.psychiatry.org

The presence of gender variance is not the pathology but dysphoria is from the distress caused by the body and mind not aligning and/or societal marginalization of gender-variant people.

The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.”

Ruling out Psychiatric Illness

• It is common for TGNC people who have grown up in an unsupportive environment to express symptoms characteristic with personality disorders. Impulsivity, mood lability, and suicidal ideation occur commonly. This does not necessarily qualify them for a personality disorder diagnosis because personality disorders are typically lifelong and pervasive. TGNC people typically show a reduction or disappearance of these symptoms once they are in a supportive gender-affirming environment.
• There are no studies indicating that psychiatric illness causes gender dysphoria as a consistent condition over time, although delusions or unstable personality characteristics may manifest as intermittent thoughts or feeling of gender incongruity. Additionally, TGNC people can have other psychiatric disorders (e.g., psychotic, bipolar, depressive, substance use disorders) just as anyone else that is not related to their gender variance.
• Gender dysphoric symptoms may be the primary focus of treatment, but don’t overlook the possibility that other psychiatric symptoms may need to be treated first depending on severity.
• TGNC people can have psychiatric symptoms of psychotic, anxiety, and mood disorders just like any other part of the population.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Of course social media contributes to it. Kids want to feel like they belong to something. Do the math…

Serious question, have you actually talked to any of these kids?

 

[Go Bama]

For anyone interesting in expanding their knowledge here's a link to some history and current state of things.

Maybe, and hear me out, we should listen to people who have expertise in areas where we don't. At least consider the information they give us more than random people on X (or its disturbed owner, who instead of repairing his relationship with his child would rather lash out at the world to "eradicate the woke mind virus" and in doing so make it even more miserable for people like his own child). We certainly should not be openly mocking and disparaging people for immutable characteristics of any sort.

Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis

The history and differential associated with gender dysphoria.

www.psychiatry.org

Very informative! Thanks for posting. I hope a lot of people will read this.

 

[92tide]

Elon Musk’s transgender daughter, in first interview, says he berated her for being queer as a child

In an exclusive interview, Vivian Jenna Wilson said her father’s recent statements, including that she is “not a girl,” inspired her to speak out: “I’m not just gonna let that slide.”

www.nbcnews.com