Mark Cuban

Tide and True said:
If I ask nicely, could we please stop using the "But Clinton did it too!" line?
Well, since Clinton was the previous President of the United States, it seemed appropriate to compare his 2nd term inaugural costs to President Bush's inaugural costs to see if Bush was way out of line. I wanted to do Reagan too but couldn't find it.
 
Um hello? We are at war. There have been attacks on American soil in this war. What better demonstration for some Islamic Whacko to blast the Inauguration? Hence much enhanced security.

Of course, we could pretend like we are not America, and not bother celebrating our election process, and just salute whatever flag we are offered and mouth the pithy slogans foisted on us. Germany, Japan, Iraq, the USSR, among others tried that approach. It did not work out so well.
 
Displaced Bama Fan said:
Bake - That's different. That's private sector/market driven.


Taxpayer dollars are being spent for security for a party. That's ridiculous.

DBF,

Again, who is footing half the bill for reliant stadium, SBC center, Toyota Center? Oh yeah.....I forgot it's ALL private money. Cuban is an A$$ supreme and he's just pi$$ed because his team can't beat the Spurs....
 
rizolltizide said:
Back to the original topic of the thread...what makes Cuban's opinion any less valid than yours?
I'd value his opinion if he used just a couple of valid facts to back them up. Instead, this comes across more as sour grapes that his guy didn't win.
 
Queasy1 said:
I'd value his opinion if he used just a couple of valid facts to back them up. Instead, this comes across more as sour grapes that his guy didn't win.

His guy did win. That article stated that he voted for Bush--twice. Now I don't know for fact how much this thing is costing because I don't sit on the inaugural committee nor do I know anyone personally who does, and frankly I don't care what the cost is, but it is reported everywhere that the cost is $40m. What's non-factual about that?
 
NOSty said:
DBF,

Again, who is footing half the bill for reliant stadium, SBC center, Toyota Center? Oh yeah.....I forgot it's ALL private money. Cuban is an A$$ supreme and he's just pi$$ed because his team can't beat the Spurs....

They can't beat the Rockets, either :)
 
Well, if you're looking at who's footing the heavy end of the bill, I spent some serious bucks to help get Bush and Cheney elected. Gotta assume part of it will fund the inauguration.

This morning I opened a big envelope in the mail and there it was, my official invite, written in perfect Spenserian handwriting:

"January 20, 2005, our nation commemorates the 55th inauguration of The President and The Vice President of the United States of America. This special occasion celebrates the triumph of our democracy and the shared ideals that make its continuance possible.

"This invitation commemorates the inauguration of George Walker Bush as The President of the United States of America and Richard Bruce Cheney as The Vice President of the United States of America. It does not constitute admission to any of the inaugural events.

"The 55th Presidential Inaugural Committee"

Irony is, with all the political donations, I can't afford to attend the shindig. But I'll be cheering in front of the TV. Heck, let Bush get all the credit. ;)
 
Pachydermatous said:
Irony is, with all the political donations, I can't afford to attend the shindig. But I'll be cheering in front of the TV. Heck, let Bush get all the credit. ;)

I got an invite to the Black Tie & Boots Ball - I didn't make any donations, and still can't afford to attend :(
 
rizolltizide said:
Back to the original topic of the thread...what makes Cuban's opinion any less valid than yours?

Simple...look at the money he spends on his players. He could cut that in half and come up with the 40 million himself...oh that's right, only he's allowed to prosper and enjoy the fruits of his labor. That's what this inauguration ball is, a reward to those who helped get Dubya re-elected. It's been pointed out that it's private money funding the parties and public money being spent on security, which is pretty much spent anyways...
 
rizolltizide said:
Back to the original topic of the thread...what makes Cuban's opinion any less valid than yours?



His opinion is as valid as anyones by definition. However:

Billionaire Mark Cuban, owner of the National Basketball Association's Dallas Mavericks, voted for Bush — twice. Cuban knows a thing or two about big spending, once starring in ABC's reality TV show, "The Benefactor," in which 16 contenders tried to pass his test for success and win $1 million.


Cuban questioned spending all that money on the inaugural.

"As a country, we face huge deficits. We face a declining economy. We have service people dying. We face responsibilities to help those suffering from the ... devastation of the tsunamis," he wrote on his blog, a Web journal.

Cuban challenged Bush to set an example: "Start by canceling your inauguration parties and festivities."



I think the post says it. He knows a thing or 2 about spending, we have sevice men, tsunami, yadda yadda.

It seems like pandering to me. While I think that the president should just wave to us from a window and say thank you instead of the crowning him king, the comment that he should cancel the inauguration to set an example is pure pandering. Maybe Cuban should set the example by giving half of his fortune to the troops and the victims of the tidal wave. Of course that is a ridiculous thing to expect him to do..which makes my point.
 
NOSty said:
DBF,

Again, who is footing half the bill for reliant stadium, SBC center, Toyota Center? Oh yeah.....I forgot it's ALL private money. Cuban is an A$$ supreme and he's just pi$$ed because his team can't beat the Spurs....

And I voted against each and everyone of them too. When we start subsidizing some private businesses, we should subsidize them all.
 
Displaced Bama Fan said:
And I voted against each and everyone of them too. When we start subsidizing some private businesses, we should subsidize them all.

You miss my point...you don't see him complaining his living off the government tit in that basketball arena.

Our sales tax dollars could be much wiser spent than an Toyota Center, Reliant Stadium, Minute Maid Park...
 
You guys make my point, it's his opinion and we all have ours. I think a lot of times, because of one's "celebrity status" their opinions get printed out there for all to see whereas our opinions are printed on these message boards for only a few to see, that makes us feel as though our opinions are less worthy somehow. And they are not. Clearly in the last election you "heard" much more from celebrities in the media than from "ordinary folk." Obviously their opinions carried little weight. I guess what I'm trying to say is why get so wrapped up in it.
 
rizolltizide said:
You guys make my point, it's his opinion and we all have ours. I think a lot of times, because of one's "celebrity status" their opinions get printed out there for all to see whereas our opinions are printed on these message boards for only a few to see, that makes us feel as though our opinions are less worthy somehow. And they are not. Clearly in the last election you "heard" much more from celebrities in the media than from "ordinary folk." Obviously their opinions carried little weight. I guess what I'm trying to say is why get so wrapped up in it.


Wrapped up?
This is a non-sports forum where people post thoughts and opinions. Like the one you just posted.
 
rizolltizide said:
You guys make my point, it's his opinion and we all have ours. I think a lot of times, because of one's "celebrity status" their opinions get printed out there for all to see whereas our opinions are printed on these message boards for only a few to see, that makes us feel as though our opinions are less worthy somehow. And they are not. Clearly in the last election you "heard" much more from celebrities in the media than from "ordinary folk." Obviously their opinions carried little weight. I guess what I'm trying to say is why get so wrapped up in it.

What? There is a big difference...I'm not asking my government to fund half of my business and then turning around speaking negatively of it. Guaranteed he's paid more than me as a tax debtor, but guaranteed he's received more than me as a tax beneficiary. I'd be surprised if his tax burden was MORE than his tax benefits.
 
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Displaced Bama Fan said:
I didn't miss it. It's typical of sports team owners to suck at the tit of the taxpayer.

Cool, I didn't get it... :)

I'm wondering why he hasn't flown over there to help out. He doesn't HAVE to be at the games, it's not like he's playing...LOL!
 
bamabake said:
I bet you think tht sports figures and actors make "obscene" amounts of money too huh?
Yes but whats the point. Those are determined by supply & demand. Swear him in, make a speach, have one reasonable party/ball, be done with it.
 
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