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Like every other analysis that I see, Texas gets ridiculed for our close games, but there is never a word mentioned about Bama needing a breakdown in the Tennesee kicking game to win a home game vs. a mediocre Vol squad
Actually, we're the ones who broke down and let them back in the game. We had it all sealed up until Ingram committed his 1st career fumble, they scored a TD on blown coverage, and then recovered an onside kick. Then after a 30-something yard completion with a blatant uncalled holding on Dareus, Mt. Cody stepped up and blocked his 2nd of the day. So....while we broke down, we still won the game. UThug didn't lose it, we won it.
 

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I believe GMacFan has a perfect read on the Texas team.

We're pretty much just happy to be there... understand we'd probably be no better than the 4th best team in the SEC, and hope to just put up a good fight to make your expected victory at least hard fought.

We've overachieved against lesser competition this year, acknowledge that, and well... wish your team all the best.
 

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Instead, Bama (13-2 in your last 15) is painted as unstoppable, while Texas (winners of 19 straight) is depicted as marginal and no more worthy than TCU, Cincinnati, or Boise.
It's all in how you look at things (and being able to read between the lines). For example, you credit Bama with being 13-2 in our last fifteen games and UT as winners of 19 straight. Both factual. However, if you back that up to the last two FULL seasons, you'll see that Bama is 25-2 (owning 12 and 13 game win streaks), while UT is 25-1 (with a 19 game win streak). Factual as well --- it's just all in how you look at it (or read into it).

Both of these teams deserve to be in this game. Both have incredible teams with strengths AND weaknesses. Everything else is subjective.
 

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I believe GMacFan has a perfect read on the Texas team.

We're pretty much just happy to be there... understand we'd probably be no better than the 4th best team in the SEC, and hope to just put up a good fight to make your expected victory at least hard fought.

We've overachieved against lesser competition this year, acknowledge that, and well... wish your team all the best.
Ladies and gentlemen - it's Mack Brown!
 

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How you spending that new $2 million bonus you got there Mack? Did you go get you a good BBQ pit?

I believe GMacFan has a perfect read on the Texas team.

We're pretty much just happy to be there... understand we'd probably be no better than the 4th best team in the SEC, and hope to just put up a good fight to make your expected victory at least hard fought.

We've overachieved against lesser competition this year, acknowledge that, and well... wish your team all the best.
 

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How you spending that new $2 million bonus you got there Mack? Did you go get you a good BBQ pit?
ah shoot.. me and my buddy Wade Phillips, we just went down near the creek and cooked up a batch of spare ribs.. I tole ole Wade how happy I was that ever single team we plaided this year was no gud at all and how bad our conference was and how I hope we can stay within 40 points of Alabama.. how me and ole Nick are good frens and how he prepares so very well fer games and stuff.

Wade just wanted to talk about them 3 D glasses that he got at the last Cowboys game at that new fangled stadium thing. he didnt like it much when I kept callin it the "deathstar."
 

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Well, one way to look at it is I'd rather be lucky than good any day. Just be thankful you made it this far. We'll send you a "Got 13" T-Shirt signed by St. Nick and a case of ribs to throw on the new BBQ pit.

ah shoot.. me and my buddy Wade Phillips, we just went down near the creek and cooked up a batch of spare ribs.. I tole ole Wade how happy I was that ever single team we plaided this year was no gud at all and how bad our conference was and how I hope we can stay within 40 points of Alabama.. how me and ole Nick are good frens and how he prepares so very well fer games and stuff.

Wade just wanted to talk about them 3 D glasses that he got at the last Cowboys game at that new fangled stadium thing. he didnt like it much when I kept callin it the "deathstar."
 

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I believe GMacFan has a perfect read on the Texas team.

We're pretty much just happy to be there... understand we'd probably be no better than the 4th best team in the SEC, and hope to just put up a good fight to make your expected victory at least hard fought.

We've overachieved against lesser competition this year, acknowledge that, and well... wish your team all the best.
Well at least you've accepted it. Now bend over, bite down on something, and take this beating like a good little schoolboy.
 

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I believe GMacFan has a perfect read on the Texas team.

We're pretty much just happy to be there... understand we'd probably be no better than the 4th best team in the SEC, and hope to just put up a good fight to make your expected victory at least hard fought.

We've overachieved against lesser competition this year, acknowledge that, and well... wish your team all the best.
And you're going to spout this rubbish in how many threads today?
 

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He's sure enjoying this underdog role. I'm pretty sick of it and I'm even more sick of our fanbase buying into it. If people think Texas is going to look the same against us as they did Nebraska they are neither realistic or objective. Texas is a dang good football team that can beat Alabama. Anyone who doesn't believe that is being set up by the media to be disappointed.
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The only people I care about buying into it would be the players!
I will asume that CNS will have that potential problem taken care of!
 

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I think you are caught up in this 4 down lineman vs 3 down linemen argument and not looking at what happens in each situation. you are also caught up in this whole number of sacks and TFL with T. Cody. What Cody is, is a run stuffing NT that forces teams to go wide. trust me, if you want to try and live off the dive play or any run in between the offensive guards you are in for a long night. the best way to tell how effective a NT is in a 3-4 defense is to look at his number of tackles. if he has a high tackle number, then teams are running at him and do not consider him as a threat to stop the run on a regular basis. but if you look at a team that has a NT with a low amount of tackles and that same team has OLB's with a high amount of TFL or little gain the NT has effectively done his job. How many times has Florida ran the ball inside with that little dive option play against teams this year? how many times did they even try to run against Alabama in the SEC Championship game?

Before you start in saying that Bama has to blitz to get pressure on the QB you need to go back and study some game film. Four of the most hyped QB's at the start of the season were Ryan Mallet, Jeavon Snead, Tyrod Taylor and of course Tim Tebow. what do all four have in common? they were all made to look rather bad by a team that "Has" to blitz to get pressure on the QB.

The bigger question is this, if we have to blitz to get pressure on the QB, why has our defense not been just hammered this year by the great QB's like Ryan Mallet, Jeavon Snead, Tim Tebow and Tyrod Taylor? they were the most talked about QB's besides McCoy as the season started?
Tyrod Taylor's a great QB? Who says? Ryan Mallet? Bama got him in his third game with Arkansas. Mallet's got a howitzer hooked to his shoulder but he's still raw, after a full season. Jevan Snead? Regressed badly this year. Tim Tebow? Great QB, great leader, but hardly a great passer. Fact is, the QB play in the SEC was generally down all over this season.

When Alabama fans say Texas has never faced a running attack like the Tide's this year, I agree. It remains to be seen how we'll do in that area. But when they say they've seen plenty of guys like Colt McCoy and plenty of spread offenses like UT's, I beg to differ. Like our rush defense, it remains to be seen how the Tide will do against the Horns' passing game.
 

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Tyrod Taylor's a great QB? Who says? Ryan Mallet? Bama got him in his third game with Arkansas. Mallet's got a howitzer hooked to his shoulder but he's still raw, after a full season. Jevan Snead? Regressed badly this year. Tim Tebow? Great QB, great leader, but hardly a great passer. Fact is, the QB play in the SEC was generally down all over this season.

When Alabama fans say Texas has never faced a running attack like the Tide's this year, I agree. It remains to be seen how we'll do in that area. But when they say they've seen plenty of guys like Colt McCoy and plenty of spread offenses like UT's, I beg to differ. Like our rush defense, it remains to be seen how the Tide will do against the Horns' passing game.
Well, this thread was originally about UT's OL. I do really believe we've faced better OLs than UT's. I think even the national pundits, who aren't really Bama fans, would agree. I really think your OL is your Achilles' Heel. If it doesn't hold up, there is no passing game to speak of, or running game either. I think all the other areas become subordinant. Running game, passing game, Bama will put some points on the board. If UT's OL can't hold up, then UT, in all probability, loses the game...
 

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The only people I care about buying into it would be the players!
I will asume that CNS will have that potential problem taken care of!
I just get tired of the braggadocious talk. I was just taught differently than most folks I guess. You can really get a measure of a person by how they handle success.
 

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Well, this thread was originally about UT's OL. I do really believe we've faced better OLs than UT's. I think even the national pundits, who aren't really Bama fans, would agree. I really think your OL is your Achilles' Heel. If it doesn't hold up, there is no passing game to speak of, or running game either. I think all the other areas become subordinant. Running game, passing game, Bama will put some points on the board. If UT's OL can't hold up, then UT, in all probability, loses the game...
Exactly, I don't see their OL pulling a rabbit out of their hat and somehow managing to play better than they have all year (maybe even on a different level, if they want to beat us) against the best defense they've faced all year, in fact a defense that I'd say they've seen nothing like. Nebraska's D was good, but Bama is going to give Texas a new meaning for the word hell. A painful crimson meaning.
 

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Well, this thread was originally about UT's OL. I do really believe we've faced better OLs than UT's. I think even the national pundits, who aren't really Bama fans, would agree. I really think your OL is your Achilles' Heel. If it doesn't hold up, there is no passing game to speak of, or running game either. I think all the other areas become subordinant. Running game, passing game, Bama will put some points on the board. If UT's OL can't hold up, then UT, in all probability, loses the game...
Our line play has been inconsistent, but they're not as bad as they looked against Nebraska.

I mean, we ran for 150 yards against a top-flight OU defense. And probably with a reasonably good ypc. The problem against OU was that we turned the ball over inside the OU 5-yard line TWICE. Once on a fumble when McCoy was fighting for extra yards (would have been first-and-goal) and once on a miscommunication with a true freshman wideout (where the receiver cut off the route and McCoy threw it right to the defender). We only scored 16 against OU but we were only a few yards from scoring 30.

Against Nebraska, it looked like our linemen were asked to do something they haven't done all year. We looked like we were trying to cut block Suh. Some lines cut block on every play (Baylor in the Big 12, some of the service academies, etc.). It can be an "equalizer" when a team is outmanned, just as spreading out a good defense can help to somewhat offset a talent edge.

Anyway, lines that do that are often smaller and faster individuals. For UT, we looked silly trying to do it. We got called for chop blocks on our first offensive snap of each half. Both calls were suspect at best. Once the defender wasn't engaged with a blocker and the other time our O-linemen didn't even hit anybody. Both times it put us in 1st and 25, which not only makes it very unlikely to convert, it started both halves by making UT punt from deep in its own territory and setting up Nebraska at midfield.

Just speculation, but it looked like UT tried to change up its schemes and philosophies for the Nebraska game, and our big interior linemen couldn't execute it at all. We'd have been better off just running our offense.

As a side note here, I'd mention that Utah rushed for THIRTEEN whole yards and beat Bama. I'd wager my year's salary that Texas can do better than 13 yards.
 
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Exactly, I don't see their OL pulling a rabbit out of their hat and somehow managing to play better than they have all year (maybe even on a different level, if they want to beat us) against the best defense they've faced all year, in fact a defense that I'd say they've seen nothing like. Nebraska's D was good, but Bama is going to give Texas a new meaning for the word hell. A painful crimson meaning.
GMac, on the one hand, you keep telling us to quit poor-mouthing. On the other, you post messages like this. Which is it to be?
 

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As a side note here, I'd mention that Utah rushed for THIRTEEN whole yards and beat Bama. I'd wager my year's salary that Texas can do better than 13 yards.
1) Utah used the short pass as its running game

2) Teams have tried that this year to no avail.

and MOST IMPORTANTLY,

3) we played Utah one year ago...that game is really motivation for our players to finish and not much else. They exposed a weakness we spent a summer+ working on. Trying to infer success from a game played one year ago is much sillier than us trying to infer success from yall's Nebraska game.
 

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Well, this thread was originally about UT's OL. I do really believe we've faced better OLs than UT's. I think even the national pundits, who aren't really Bama fans, would agree. I really think your OL is your Achilles' Heel. If it doesn't hold up, there is no passing game to speak of, or running game either. I think all the other areas become subordinant. Running game, passing game, Bama will put some points on the board. If UT's OL can't hold up, then UT, in all probability, loses the game...
Fair enough, we all know games such as this are won and lost in the trenches. No quarrel there. In Texas' system, however, the OL doesn't have to hold their blocks very long on their short pass plays. Colt usually lines up in the shotgun, but in every other way it's like a three-step drop. If the receiver's open, the ball's out before the defense can get to Colt. What happened against OU and Nebraska was that the defense sat on our (overly predictable) short routes, Colt had nowhere to go with the ball, and he got pressured fast.

This is why I rant about Texas breaking their offensive tendencies and the importance of our secondary receivers stepping up. To put it briefly, if we hit some short passes and can go with the hurry-up, the big men in the middle of Bama's defense will begin to tire and other things will open up. Our O-line is not the O-line we had in '05, but I believe they can get the job done, given a good game plan and good execution.
 

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Fair enough, we all know games such as this are won and lost in the trenches. No quarrel there. In Texas' system, however, the OL doesn't have to hold their blocks very long on their short pass plays. Colt usually lines up in the shotgun, but in every other way it's like a three-step drop. If the receiver's open, the ball's out before the defense can get to Colt. What happened against OU and Nebraska was that the defense sat on our (overly predictable) short routes, Colt had nowhere to go with the ball, and he got pressured fast.

This is why I rant about Texas breaking their offensive tendencies and the importance of our secondary receivers stepping up. To put it briefly, if we hit some short passes and can go with the hurry-up, the big men in the middle of Bama's defense will begin to tire and other things will open up. Our O-line is not the O-line we had in '05, but I believe they can get the job done, given a good game plan and good execution.
Well, obviously, part of our strategy will be to rest our DL on the sidelines while your offense rests. However, the Bama fans know our DL rotation is three deep - and I mean who play in every game. I don't see a pass only offense tiring them out. Which, once again, comes back to your OL. I see that as being the game.
 
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