Mental health treatment - we have to do better

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You really need to dig in and find out if this person was molested at a young age. There is a high corelation with BPD and molestation.

Everything that has been said by JDCrimson and Crimson Audio is right on target. This person has spiraled downhill over the last 2 years and nothing...counseling, etc., has worked. Thanks for the prayers...
 
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My advice: Get an expert on board. Personality disorders are difficult to treat (impossible if help is not wanted).

And perhaps more importantly:

Set boundaries and enforce them.

People with these disorders are highly manipulative.

If you don't actively guard against it they will manipulate you in ways big and small.

Enforced boundaries can stop or mitigate the damage they can cause.

And always have backup very close by, if not in the same room then at least close enough to walk to the other side of the door. You might even have them interrupt on occasion just to prove to an outsider that in your mind they could come in at any time and see what was going on. This is to protect you legally and protect your reputation. Never agree to meet them without another very nearby.
 

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You really need to dig in and find out if this person was molested at a young age. There is a high corelation with BPD and molestation.
I am advising the parents...they are moving her to a facility that deals specifically with this issue. What has transpired over the last 2 years...and now in the last 3 days...lI cannot believe the downfall of this person...
 
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I am advising the parents...they are moving her to a facility that deals specifically with this issue. What has transpired over the last 2 years...and now in the last 3 days...lI cannot believe the downfall of this person...
I'm just seeing this thread since it awakened yesterday. I'm sorry you're having to go through this. I do hope the facility is more geared toward psychotherapy and less towards medications as traditional antidepressants, mood stabilizers and anti-psychotic medications are generally ineffective for BPD. Some psychiatrists will still try them, but in my experience, this is usually a hail-Mary attempt to find something that works when all other treatments have failed.

I remember taking on a client with severe BPD about six or seven years ago. Pretty much everyone in the facility treated him like sweating dynamite because his outbursts were explosive. We were trained on restraint techniques for people like him, but none of us wanted to see if it really worked, so we pretty much held him at arms' length. Once it was determined that drugs were responsible for the sudden uptick in his BPD, we had at least a better idea of how to treat him. There is a good possibility that something like that is happening here. BPD can be exacerbated by certain substances being introduced into the patient's system.
 

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I'm just seeing this thread since it awakened yesterday. I'm sorry you're having to go through this. I do hope the facility is more geared toward psychotherapy and less towards medications as traditional antidepressants, mood stabilizers and anti-psychotic medications are generally ineffective for BPD. Some psychiatrists will still try them, but in my experience, this is usually a hail-Mary attempt to find something that works when all other treatments have failed.

I remember taking on a client with severe BPD about six or seven years ago. Pretty much everyone in the facility treated him like sweating dynamite because his outbursts were explosive. We were trained on restraint techniques for people like him, but none of us wanted to see if it really worked, so we pretty much held him at arms' length. Once it was determined that drugs were responsible for the sudden uptick in his BPD, we had at least a better idea of how to treat him. There is a good possibility that something like that is happening here. BPD can be exacerbated by certain substances being introduced into the patient's system.
This is a facility that only deals with BPD patients...and yes, just about everything you can imagine is involved here.
 
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This is news story is making the rounds today......but not much conversation about the metal health aspects.

I get it......a lot of excitement surrounding the event itself.

I don't know enough to go any further with my comments other than to say that maybe we should have more discussion about the man's mental health issues.

Maybe we'll know more going forward...who knows........

My 2 cents.

A defendant attacked Judge Mary Kay Holthus in Clark County, Nevada. The court says Judge Holthus experienced some minor injuries and a marshal was taken to a local hospital. The court said they are reviewing security protocols after the incident. CNN reached out to Deobra Redden’s attorney for a statement but did not immediately hear back.

 

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Dang! The dude may have a post-prison career as a jobber in professional wrestling. Pretty impressive getting horizontal while going over the desk (top rope). And he took his beating like a champ. Definitely a candidate for future squash matches.
 
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Dang! The dude may have a post-prison career as a jobber in professional wrestling. Pretty impressive getting horizontal while going over the desk (top rope). And he took his beating like a champ. Definitely a candidate for future squash matches.
Yeah.....the thought went through my head.......I wonder if he has any relatives who played D-line for Michigan last Monday...... :unsure:
 
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This is news story is making the rounds today......but not much conversation about the metal health aspects.

I get it......a lot of excitement surrounding the event itself.

I don't know enough to go any further with my comments other than to say that maybe we should have more discussion about the man's mental health issues.

Maybe we'll know more going forward...who knows........

My 2 cents.

A defendant attacked Judge Mary Kay Holthus in Clark County, Nevada. The court says Judge Holthus experienced some minor injuries and a marshal was taken to a local hospital. The court said they are reviewing security protocols after the incident. CNN reached out to Deobra Redden’s attorney for a statement but did not immediately hear back.

His issue is he's a violent a-hole.
 
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I'm not an expert but looks like Schizophrenia.


Schizophrenia is a serious mental disorder in which people interpret reality abnormally. Schizophrenia may result in some combination of hallucinations, delusions, and extremely disordered thinking and behavior that impairs daily functioning, and can be disabling.

People with schizophrenia require lifelong treatment. Early treatment may help get symptoms under control before serious complications develop and may help improve the long-term outlook.
 

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I don’t know how accurate the information is but I read that the guy who jumped in the aquarium at the Bass Pro Shop is a veteran who is suffering from mental illness.
 

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This is news story is making the rounds today......but not much conversation about the metal health aspects.

I get it......a lot of excitement surrounding the event itself.

I don't know enough to go any further with my comments other than to say that maybe we should have more discussion about the man's mental health issues.

Maybe we'll know more going forward...who knows........

My 2 cents.

A defendant attacked Judge Mary Kay Holthus in Clark County, Nevada. The court says Judge Holthus experienced some minor injuries and a marshal was taken to a local hospital. The court said they are reviewing security protocols after the incident. CNN reached out to Deobra Redden’s attorney for a statement but did not immediately hear back.

His issue is he's a violent a-hole.

Who has now been indicted for murder..........

 

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While girls typically show sadness through emotions, boys’ symptoms of depression may be swept aside as “typical” teenage behavior.

A recent study published in the journal Pediatrics found that while antidepressant prescriptions have risen dramatically for teenage girls and women in their 20s, the rate of such prescriptions for young men “declined abruptly during March 2020 and did not recover.”

Dr. Kao-Ping Chua, a pediatrician at the Susan B. Meister Child Health Evaluation and Research Center at the University of Michigan, led the study. He said that his finding that boys weren’t accessing antidepressant medications once the pandemic hit has been “perplexing.”

“In males, it’s theoretically possible that this reflects improved mental health, but I’m struggling with that explanation,” Chua said. “Given that everybody’s mental health got worse, I would have expected that boys’ antidepressant dispensing would have at least remained stable, not decrease.”

The more likely explanation in Chua’s experience as a pediatrician, he said, was that boys stopped engaging with the health care system overall during the pandemic, leading to an underdetection and, consequently, an undertreatment of mental health problems in young men.

“There was something happening to make male adolescents not come in for mental health,” Chua said. “They didn’t go to their doctors. They skipped physicals.”

“Boys are disappearing,” he said.
What does depression look like in boys?
Boys struggling with their mental health tend to show it with a shorter fuse: They’re easily irritated, frustrated or aggressive.

“A lot of times, parents who have boys with depression say that they’re walking on eggshells around them because they don’t know what would set them off,” said Dr. Mai Uchida, a pediatric psychiatrist and director of the Child Depression Program at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Parents, pediatricians and even psychiatrists may not pick up on mental health problems in boys, Uchida said, because “they don’t fit the stereotypical image of depression.”
In addition to long-term psychotherapy and medication, Power has relied on physical outlets for his anxiety and depression. Running, he said, is key.

“Being able to run and run and run and get all of my energy out has been the most helpful thing for me,” Power said. “You sweat out all of your energy.”
 
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