Yeah… no.
Dabo after taking a big boy spanking by Ryan Day has struggled to win the ACC.
JessN: Michigan wrap-up: Bama needs a clean break from this identity
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Dabo after taking a big boy spanking by Ryan Day has struggled to win the ACC.
Fully expect them to empty out the NIL account to bring JM back for another year. Not really sure what CKD does but he sure doesn't make the tough decisions. We'll know a whole lot more about CKD by spring practice.
let's see. got blown out by uga. lost to USCe again. barely beat smu because the smu coach is a moron and coward. lost handily to texas in the first round. yeah, I would rather lose to Vandy again than have Coach Karen Aweshucks.
And it's not me saying Cig is a bad coach. It's me saying, "Let's see what he does for a few years."
IMO, Indy sold their soul to give him that longtime, lucrative contract after one impressive year. Does anybody in their right mind think Indiana suddenly starts winning the B1G with Cig??? He may prove me wrong, but I wouldn't bet a dollar he'll have long term success there (winning B1G championships and beyond).
If he wants to prove he's a big time coach, he'll have to do it at some other place...much like CNS left Mich. St. to go to LSU and show his chops.
I FULLY believe you are wrong!
I'll never be so happy to be wrong. Maybe if I understood what went down this year I'd have a little more faith. With what we've just witnessed it's hard to be optimistic and/or expect to see smart decisions be made.
Ask yourself… would a receiver like Horton transfer in if he knew Jalen Milroe was the guy throwing him the ball?
We'll see. But if CKD allows JM back on the 2025 team, it'll set us back years. I believe CKD is smarter than that.
I am not one of those that want to fire CKD. I think it would be very foolish after one year. However, I think the standard is the standard for a reason. To tolerate anything less is to throw away the efforts of those that worked their tails off to set that standard. But to pretend that CKD is the only "hand" we could have been dealt is not accurate either.
Curt Cignetti would take the job and have a better season than we did this year. He had a better season with a lot less talent. I do not necessarily like him, do not necessarily want him at Bama, but I must admit, I like his bravado. I honestly think he could have taken our roster and beat Vandy, OU, and Tenn. Dan Lanning could have, too. Kyle Whittingham could have, too. Heck, at this point, Sherrone Moore proved he could do more with less... The point is that this was a disappointing season in so many ways. I think it set the program back a bit. Maybe the only bright side is that we probably will not have as big a "bullseye" on us to get everyone's best game. Heck, I bet that they will quit storming the field when they beat us. Well, the bunch in Knoxville probably will continue because they don't know any better.
With that said, I would not (and did not) want any of these guys. Ok, I would take Lanning. I guess the most frustrating thing was that it felt like no one hand their hand on the wheel. Milroe should have been sat down at OU and in the bowl. We have endured a year of listening to people defend him at all costs. It was almost laughable to listen to talking heads around the program defend Milroe's play in the media. Jalen Hurts was benched for a whole lot less-in the National Championship Game! Guess what, he was ultimately better off for it! You think Hurts didn't love the program? You think he wasn't a great ambassador for the school? Milroe is untouchable, though. Ultimately, this is because the man in charge does not have the intestinal fortitude to deal with the consequences of that decision. CKD wasted a season. A season with playoff talent. A season where we might have seen Bama playing last night, or even today. Milroe was a good representative of the university, probably a great kid, but he is not a QB, at least not with his play in the 2024 season. If he was the best QB on the 2024 roster, then we should have been in the Single Wing. If CKD tries to bake this cake with the same ingredients next year, he needs to find another kitchen. I sincerely hope CKD learns from this year and goes on to coach many great seasons at the Capstone, because he seems to be a great guy and someone that you want to root for to succeed. But, he better change some of his ingredients...
I think you are thinking about this in a mere "coach vs. coach bubble" without taking into consideration all the extracurricular stuff CKD had to deal with that was left over from 2023 and the other stuff CNS allowed to fester the last few years.
I believe CKD was "handicapped" way beyond what most of us realize. I'll put it this way, the lockerroom drama/cancerous attitudes reeked the kind of havok that the best coaches (many you named) couldn't overcome.
Hottake: Given the same roster as CKD this year, I seriously doubt CNS has a better record than CKD this year.
Remember, it was the same problems that CKD had to deal with this year that caused CNS to hang up his clipboard at the end of 2023.
Think about that. The GOAT chose an acting career (which he's pretty good at) and clowning around with Pat McAfee on ESPN for the Bama Dynasty he built because he knew the problems he'd have to deal with going forward weren't worth it!
The 2025 playbook better already be in Ty Simpsons hands starting yesterday.
I believe he had it this year.
In the brief times we saw him last year, he threw passes to players like Odom and Law on patterns JM never seemed to see.
'And I quote...
STINK
STANK
LANK'
To paraphrase a Christmas song...
(Your a mean one Mr. Grinch)
I was right about NILroe last year.
It pains me to say it.
This year I mostly bite my tongue.
Gloves off today. NILroe ain't got the 'Right Stuff'.
If you gave NILroe 5 more years, he still would not be a Quarterback.
This year shows that DeBoer apparently don't have what it takes to control our football team. He needs to grow a pair.
Sorry if the last comment is out of line, but I think it's time to tell him.
The most tiring thing about watching this offense was Milroe. He is a great athlete but the offense had to be pieced together to allow him a chance to function within it. He is a near-great runner but other teams figured out that when he ran along the line of scrimmage, they could commit the entire defense to stopping him because he had no downfield vision and was not going to pass. I have absolutely missed having a QB who had vision and could hit a receiver 10 to 15 yards downfield in stride. How many big plays did we miss by not having that ability?
How many big PLAYERS will be miss by not having this ability.
I'm glad we won the SEC last year, which was kinda a lucky end to the CNS era, but we basically threw 2 years away with JM at QB.
I was at the game yesterday and you can see the line of scrimmage better than on TV. Michigan's defense dominated our offense the entire game and Milroe Milroed. Michigan had more energy than Alabama starting with the warm ups. Other than that I am speechless.
The issue with Cignetti is not what he accomplished at JMU or Indiana, but rather the revisionist history a lot of Bama fans are having (not pointing at anyone in this thread specifically, but I've seen it elsewhere) regarding him and how he would have fit at UA. There's a lot of "I knew he'd be a great coach" stuff out there.
If anyone "knew" that, it would have been me. Check what I wrote on our articles about potential candidates for the job when Saban left. My receipts are on the table.
However, I said at the time what was also true about him: No way was he going to get a look here at UA due to his age and, at the time, his lack of high-level FBS success as a head coach. DeBoer at least had his Washington resume, and more importantly than that, he had demonstrated success in head-to-head matchups against "better" coaches who had more talented rosters: Dan Lanning, Steve Sarkisian, etc.
When you start breaking down the list of names we either supposedly considered, or who had been linked to in the press, you get the following:
Dan Lanning: The least experienced HC of all of them. Not to mention we would have had to shell over something like $37 million to Oregon to break his contract. A lot of fans toss that stuff off as "we deserve the best, pay him," then they gripe about Tide Pride going up $100/seat. You can't have it both ways. And that's if you believed Lanning was worth a $37 million lottery ticket in the first place.
Mike Norvell: Was probably the fallback if DeBoer had fallen through, and at this moment that looks like a dodged bullet. I think Norvell is better than what he showed this year at FSU but he's certainly no sure thing.
Steve Sarkisian: Best-case scenario is you end up in a bidding war with Texas oil money for the guy. Best playcaller we've maybe ever had but he also hasn't won anything of significance yet as a HC.
Lane Kiffin: Reports vary, but he burned a ton of bridges here and I doubt he will ever be considered for an opening at UA. There's also the fact that he hasn't won anything of significance anywhere he's been yet. Best pure QB coach I've ever seen outside of maybe Homer Smith but he still coaches sometimes like he's holding a PlayStation controller in his hands.
Curt Cignetti: Saban disciple who, by the way, I've heard several times over the years that he didn't leave here 100% voluntarily in the first place. He's won everywhere, but he's also got about 5-8 years left in his career and stealing a coach from James Madison by way of Indiana would have inspired absolutely nobody around the program. Honestly I think if you'd gotten beyond Sark/Kiffin and started going down the list of former Saban coaches, we would have ended up with Mike Locksley or maybe even had to take a flyer on Glenn Schumann.
If anyone "knew" that, it would have been me. Check what I wrote on our articles about potential candidates for the job when Saban left. My receipts are on the table.
However, I said at the time what was also true about him: No way was he going to get a look here at UA due to his age and, at the time, his lack of high-level FBS success as a head coach. DeBoer at least had his Washington resume, and more importantly than that, he had demonstrated success in head-to-head matchups against "better" coaches who had more talented rosters: Dan Lanning, Steve Sarkisian, etc.
When you start breaking down the list of names we either supposedly considered, or who had been linked to in the press, you get the following:
Dan Lanning: The least experienced HC of all of them. Not to mention we would have had to shell over something like $37 million to Oregon to break his contract. A lot of fans toss that stuff off as "we deserve the best, pay him," then they gripe about Tide Pride going up $100/seat. You can't have it both ways. And that's if you believed Lanning was worth a $37 million lottery ticket in the first place.
Mike Norvell: Was probably the fallback if DeBoer had fallen through, and at this moment that looks like a dodged bullet. I think Norvell is better than what he showed this year at FSU but he's certainly no sure thing.
Steve Sarkisian: Best-case scenario is you end up in a bidding war with Texas oil money for the guy. Best playcaller we've maybe ever had but he also hasn't won anything of significance yet as a HC.
Lane Kiffin: Reports vary, but he burned a ton of bridges here and I doubt he will ever be considered for an opening at UA. There's also the fact that he hasn't won anything of significance anywhere he's been yet. Best pure QB coach I've ever seen outside of maybe Homer Smith but he still coaches sometimes like he's holding a PlayStation controller in his hands.
Curt Cignetti: Saban disciple who, by the way, I've heard several times over the years that he didn't leave here 100% voluntarily in the first place. He's won everywhere, but he's also got about 5-8 years left in his career and stealing a coach from James Madison by way of Indiana would have inspired absolutely nobody around the program. Honestly I think if you'd gotten beyond Sark/Kiffin and started going down the list of former Saban coaches, we would have ended up with Mike Locksley or maybe even had to take a flyer on Glenn Schumann.
Dan Lanning is getting hammered 31-0 in the second quarter...
Yep, I like the guy we have just got to let him have a little time.
This makes no sense. If anything, we‘d empty out the NIL account to make him leave.
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