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I'll tell you a story.
In the 90s a team from the 10 Special Forces Group went to do a shooting house exercise to work on procedures of how you clear room, shoot the bad guys but don't shoot the good guys. This shooting house had steel plates 3/4 of an inch thick between the rooms and dirt-filled tires filled with sand inside of each room holding the steel plate in place. The team had done a walk-through, dry fire (no ammo), then a live fire. During one of the iterations, a bullet hit the seam between the metal plates somehow got through two layers of dirt filled tires, hit a teammate in the next room in the arm hole of his body armor and clipped a bone chip off the back of one of his vertebrae. Bad news.
General Jerry Boykin, the commander of Special Forces Command, sent a team to investigate the accident. Boykin said, "The unit was doing the right thing (close quarters battle), they had taken reasonable precautions (walk through, dry fire, then live fire. The rooms has steel plates between them and the guys were wearing body armor. Boykin said, "No (permanent) harm, no foul. My battalion commander kept his job.
Then, later that year, when the unit was conducting Winter Environmental Training (WET) in the mountains of Colorado in January, a soldier got frostbite. That is a showstopper in the Army. Boykin consent another investigation team to find out the facts. They examined unit training schedules of how soldiers were prepared for operating the environment, they examine the equipment that have been issued, they looked at meteorological data and the temperature just dropped to -40 on very short notice and the guys could not build a snow caves fast enough. Once again, Boykin said "you were doing the right stuff you took reasonable precautions. Sometimes bad stuff happens. It is a dangerous business and I do not want to build an officer corps that is risk averse." Boykin did not relieve the battalion commander.
In the USAF or Army aviation or artillery, when something bad happens, everyone gets relieved and normally, their careers are over.
I really appreciate Jerry Boykin's approach. Doing the right stuff? Took reasonable precautions? No relief. Sometimes bad things happen.

Rest of the story, my battalion commander went on to be Lieutenant General and commander of US Army Special Operations Command (the higher headquarters for Jerry Boykin's headquarters),. Boykin saw potential and did not want to waste it.

Now in the case of the Gettysburg skipper? Yet to be determined.
The key point of the Boykin anecdote is that, had he relieved the battalion commander, it would have been like other communities in the Army, but the message he would have been sending to all the other commanders was "Avoid risk. Never let your guys don anything risky because if it goes bad, you're fired." I admire Boykin for that insight.
I wrote that artillery officers are extremely risk averse. If anybody shoots out of the impact area, everyone is getting fired.
The 10th Special Forces Group was at a base that was commanded by a Major General who had been raised as an artillery officer. We had a Special Forces officer (Princeton grad, smart kid) patrolling through the woods at night get a branch in his eye, temporarily scratching his cornea (he later recovered). When told of the incident, the artillery general commanding the base asked, "Why was this guy walking in the woods at night?"
"Uh, he is a Special Forces officer?"
That is the level of risk aversion in the artillery community. Those that take risks (defined as patrolling through the woods at night) do not survive. Those that make general are the ones that would not accept risks as captains, majors, and lieutenant colonels.
 
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I understand mistakes, but this is 2024, not 1906.
Sure, and launching a $400,000 antiaircraft missile against a $55 US million aircraft is not the same as accidentally hitting an uncharted reef.
There are usually numerous safeguards in place to prevent such a launch. Why were they turned off? There is usually a human in the decision chain. Who was that human?
Normally the skipper is suspended from command for the investigation and, if it turns out he screwed up, he is relieved permanently. All I am suggesting is that we wait for the investigation (these will not be like a DC political "investigation" in which the responsible are scrambling for cover, but a real investigation with disinterested but qualified officers and NCOs). I bet this one will be relatively straightforward.
 

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The key point of the Boykin anecdote is that, had he relieved the battalion commander, it would have been like other communities in the Army, but the message he would have been sending to all the other commanders was "Avoid risk. Never let your guys don anything risky because if it goes bad, you're fired." I admire Boykin for that insight.
I wrote that artillery officers are extremely risk averse. If anybody shoots out of the impact area, everyone is getting fired.
The 10th Special Forces Group was at a base that was commanded by a Major General who had been raised as an artillery officer. We had a Special Forces officer (Princeton grad, smart kid) patrolling through the woods at night get a branch in his eye, temporarily scratching his cornea (he later recovered). When told of the incident, the artillery general commanding the base asked, "Why was this guy walking in the woods at night?"
"Uh, he is a Special Forces officer?"
That is the level of risk aversion in the artillery community. Those that take risks (defined as patrolling through the woods at night) do not survive. Those that make general are the ones that would not accept risks as captains, majors, and lieutenant colonels.
Not to the change in assigning blame, but the eye problem, I did that years ago, probably about 25 years. I was working on an old truck, underneath, without eye protection. I don't need to be reminded how dumb that was. I caught a steel splinter just off the distal side of my right iris and had to call on the ophthalmologist on weekend call. It left me with a weak spot in the cornea that can't even be detected with their professional equipment. A couple of times since then, I've awaked to blinding pain in my right eye from having a dry eye and my eyelid having opened up that old tear. Believe me, I'm religious about drops last thing at night and first thing in the AM.

Back to command mistakes, the tolerance level was so much more lenient in WWII. Commanders were frequently just shifted to a different command, after a devastating mistake. The luxury of canning seasoned commanders didn't exist. I wonder if the difference were in necessity or if the entire culture has shifted permanently...
 

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Back to command mistakes, the tolerance level was so much more lenient in WWII. Commanders were frequently just shifted to a different command, after a devastating mistake. The luxury of canning seasoned commanders didn't exist. I wonder if the difference were in necessity or if the entire culture has shifted permanently...
The effects of establishing a risk-averse climate for senior officers is horrendous for the military.
Look at George McClellan in our Civil War. Refused to accept risk anywhere, so he accepted risk everywhere and got abused for it.
On a wider scale, US sub skippers in 1941-2 were extremely cautious and this made them ineffective.
By 1944, the old cautious guys had been replaced by younger guys given to risk acceptance. The US submarine fleet was the terror of the IJN.
By 1945, nothing was sailing to or from Japan without a US sub shooting at it.

That kind of command climate gets built over time and if the cautious hold sway, the military is much less effective. Right now is the time when the US military is building the culture of the US military in the next war. Build a risk-averse culture and the US military will be less effective until it gets rid of that culture.
 
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U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) has now confirmed yesterday’s Airstrike in Northwestern Syria, which resulted in the Elimination of Wasim Tahsin Bayraqdar, a Senior Leader in the Al-Qaeda Affiliate, Hurras al-Din (HaD). CENTCOM does not state what Munition was used to conduct the Strike, however Evidence shows that it was carried out using an R-9X “Flying Ginsu” Hellfire Missile, likely fired from an MQ-9 “Reaper” Drone.

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CENTCOM Forces Launch Large Scale Operation Against Iran-Backed Houthis in Yemen On March 15, U.S. Central Command initiated a series of operations consisting of precision strikes against Iran-backed Houthi targets across Yemen to defend American interests, deter enemies, and restore freedom of navigation.

 

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New details from DOD on U.S. precision strikes against the Houthi:
- Initial wave hit 30+ targets including terrorist training sites, UAV infrastructure, weapons manufacturing, command & control centers
- 2nd wave on Sunday targeted HQ locations, weapons storage facilities, & detection capabilities
- Strike operations continue today (Day 3) & will continue “until we achieve the President’s objectives”
- Key differences compared to last year: 1) Broader set of targets to action, 2) Delegation of operational authorities
- Dozens of estimated Houthi military casualties; no indication of civilian casualties
- The Houthi retaliatory “attack” missed aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) by “over 100 miles”
- Iranian spy ship MV Behshad is not currently being used in operations
Updates from Air Force Lt. Gen. Grynkewich, Director of Operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff:


 
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U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) has now confirmed yesterday’s Airstrike in Northwestern Syria, which resulted in the Elimination of Wasim Tahsin Bayraqdar, a Senior Leader in the Al-Qaeda Affiliate, Hurras al-Din (HaD). CENTCOM does not state what Munition was used to conduct the Strike, however Evidence shows that it was carried out using an R-9X “Flying Ginsu” Hellfire Missile, likely fired from an MQ-9 “Reaper” Drone.

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From the looks of the roof of that car, it was a large block on concrete.
 
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