Monday Night Football - Damar Hamlin

[BamaMoon]

It is the reason availability to AED’s should be standard equipment at all sporting events from little league on up. Not just for situations with Commotio Cordis but other heart arrhythmias/conduction issues that can suddenly happen in seemingly healthy, young athletes. Not to mention people in the stands.

Most churches have them too in this day and age.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Seems criminal to not have an AED on the sideline - how on earth can this have been overlooked by the NFL? What an absolute failure.

(ETA, apparently one was present, which makes far more sense)

 

[crimsonaudio]

Most churches have them too in this day and age.

In some areas they're required by law now.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

It is now a code requirement to have AEDs in hotels, office buildings, and some schools.

 

[Titans&Tide]

Seems criminal to not have an AED on the sideline - how on earth can this have been overlooked by the NFL? What an absolute failure.

Pretty sure the reports have said he was given CPR and an AED was administered on the field.

 

[AUDub]

It is the reason availability to AED’s should be standard equipment at all sporting events from little league on up. Not just for situations with Commotio Cordis but other heart arrhythmias/conduction issues that can suddenly happen in seemingly healthy, young athletes. Not to mention people in the stands.

I gave a presentation at work advocating all of our facilities have an AED on-site just 3 weeks ago.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Pretty sure the reports have said he was given CPR and an AED was administered on the field.

I just heard that they administered CPR for over nine minutes. That would be asinine if an AED was present.

Hopefully I misheard.

 

[CB4]

Seems criminal to not have an AED on the sideline - how on earth can this have been overlooked by the NFL? What an absolute failure.

Was the AED not on the sideline or with an emergency cart/kit?

 

[AUDub]

Seems criminal to not have an AED on the sideline - how on earth can this have been overlooked by the NFL? What an absolute failure.

There was one on site, not to mention the ambulance, which won't have an AED, but a straight up beefy hospital unit like a LifePak 20.

 

[AUDub]

I just heard that they administered CPR for over nine minutes. That would be asinine if an AED was present.

Hopefully I misheard.

Defibrillation sometimes takes multiple shocks to restore a rhythm.

 

[AlistarWills]

I just heard that they administered CPR for over nine minutes. That would be asinine if an AED was present.

Hopefully I misheard.

I have read that both occurred. AED and CPR. Someone on the scene would have to lay out a timeline. There’s so many questions.

Was the AED brought out by the ambulance?
Will AEDs fire once and that’s it?

 

[AUDub]

I have read that both occurred. AED and CPR. Someone on the scene would have to lay out a timeline. There’s so many questions.

Was the AED brought out by the ambulance?
Will AEDs fire once and that’s it?

AED's are truly automated and functionally idiot proof. I've maintained them. They're blindingly easy to administer.

The machine, once you place it on the patient, will basically handhold you through CPR. It will periodically tell everyone to STAND CLEAR, scan for a shockable rhythm, tell you shock advised then ask you to press a button to administer the shock once everyone is clear. It will then scan again, maybe asking you to resume CPR, and repeat the process as needed.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1610135711960776708

Chris Pronger suffered commotio cordis after taking a slap shot to the chest in 1998. Praying for a similar recovery and outlook for Damar Hamlin…Pronger was back on the ice weeks later and played 12 more seasons en route to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Big difference from that video was he was far more responsive as he was carted off then Hamlin was.

 

[TideEngineer08]

AED's are truly automated and functionally idiot proof. I've maintained them. They're blindingly easy to administer.

The machine, once you place it on the patient, will basically handhold you through CPR. It will periodically tell everyone to STAND CLEAR, scan for a shockable rhythm, tell you shock advised then ask you to press a button to administer the shock once everyone is clear. It will then scan again, maybe asking you to resume CPR, and repeat the process as needed.

Just had CPR training last year. This is exactly how it was.

 

[CrimsonTheory]

Got home from work and saw what happened and I am still shook. Seeing that lifeless body fall to the ground, reminding me of that HS SR volleyball player who suffered a cardiac arrest during a match and she fall to the court. She's still alive and going strong, so I have to believe he will too. To see a video of Hamlin hugging his mom before a game (is was not a video of the Bengals) really hit hard. I cannot imagine what his mom is going through right now.

This young brother is in for the fight of his life, literally and I hope he overcomes it.

Thoughts and prayers to his family.

 

[UAH]

Most churches have them too in this day and age.

An experienced Emergency Room Doc discusses Commotio Cordis in regard to the game last night.

 

[AlistarWills]

AED's are truly automated and functionally idiot proof. I've maintained them. They're blindingly easy to administer.

The machine, once you place it on the patient, will basically handhold you through CPR. It will periodically tell everyone to STAND CLEAR, scan for a shockable rhythm, tell you shock advised then ask you to press a button to administer the shock once everyone is clear. It will then scan again, maybe asking you to resume CPR, and repeat the process as needed.

I’ve been around a situation just a couple months ago where a guy fell out. As folks tried to work on him, the AED was brought out and they said it didn’t fire or work right or something. The gentleman was quite hairy and the pads weren’t making good contact with his skin.

 

[CB4]

Just had CPR training last year. This is exactly how it was.

I’ve been certified for years. Comes with territory with a nurse for a wife that is a ACLS certified instructor. Even my kids and their spouses are certified.

Being a heart attack survivor from 8 years ago, I tend to be overly aware of the circumstances around me. For example, when boarding an airplane I take note of where the emergency equipment/AED is located. I also look at the layout of the plane’s seating and determine “if I had to do CPR on someone, where would I position them? The aisle? The galley? The space near the bulkhead?

I don’t want to need to think too much in a situation like that. Just react.

 

[Toddrn]

I just heard that they administered CPR for over nine minutes. That would be asinine if an AED was present.

Hopefully I misheard.

Not if he didn't have a shockable rhythm or they delivered shocks and he didn't convert right away.

 

[AUDub]

I’ve been around a situation just a couple months ago where a guy fell out. As folks tried to work on him, the AED was brought out and they said it didn’t fire or work right or something. The gentleman was quite hairy and the pads weren’t making good contact with his skin.

Many of those AED stations will have a prep razor in the box for this reason these days.

If you have no other option than to slightly misplace the pads or apply pressure to hopefully get enough contact, that's all you can do.