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TIDE-HSV

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I wonder what Jahleel Billingsley’s beef was. I can’t remember anyone else transferring with this much playing time and opportunity for championships, not to mention prep for the NFL. Maybe Sentimore? I get that people are disgruntled when they don’t get the playing time they think they should be getting. Not sure why he was so unhappy.
Sometimes it's not really external. The individual carries the beef around with him and it applies to the whole world...
 

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Sometimes it's not really external. The individual carries the beef around with him and it applies to the whole world...
I'm not at all in the know on this subject, but couldn't it also be that Saban has just had enough and encouraged this move?

I get why he had him playing in the championship game, with Metchie hurt and so much on the line it was an all hands on deck situation. However, given the nature of the situation and how utterly tiresome it can be to babysit people, I can certainly see Saban encouraging his departure. Some people just are not worth the energy it takes to make them behave.
 

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Sometimes it's not really external. The individual carries the beef around with him and it applies to the whole world...
Wyatt Earp: What makes a man like Ringo, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?
Doc Holliday: A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Wyatt Earp: What does he need?
Doc Holliday: Revenge.
Wyatt Earp: For what?
Doc Holliday: Bein' born
 

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I wonder what Jahleel Billingsley’s beef was. I can’t remember anyone else transferring with this much playing time and opportunity for championships, not to mention prep for the NFL. Maybe Sentimore? I get that people are disgruntled when they don’t get the playing time they think they should be getting. Not sure why he was so unhappy.
Lazy...? :unsure:
 
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RollTide_HTTR

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Bru McCoy from USC just entered the portal. Number 9 national recruit in 2019. Number 1 athlete and number 2 out of California. He should be able to fill right in and start. He won’t have to look to hard to find a familiar face on the team as well just the guy that threw to him his last two years in high school.
Sounds like that guy has some issues off the field and hasn't done a whole lot on it. Wonder if he'd actually be someone we'd consider
 

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Bru McCoy from USC just entered the portal. Number 9 national recruit in 2019. Number 1 athlete and number 2 out of California. He should be able to fill right in and start. He won’t have to look to hard to find a familiar face on the team as well just the guy that threw to him his last two years in high school.
Bru McCoy has spent more time in a portal the last three years than Kirk, Spock and the crew of the Starship Enterprise did for the entire run of Star Trek.
 
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CB4

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Sometimes it's not really external. The individual carries the beef around with him and it applies to the whole world...
Earle, we all know that there have been many highly skilled and capable players during the CNS that had playing time reduced or didn't see the field because he expects you will execute at a high level in ALL the requirements of that position. As example, look at the RB's through the years that didn't see the field because of inability to consistently pass block or pick up blitzes.

My thought is that the point of contention with Billingsley was effort in those other areas and (if you listen closely to his comments back in August) his dedication to working to improve those things consistently in practice. One thing I'll always remember about CNS is a statement he made (paraphrasing) about reps, consistency and effort along the lines of "practice isn't just about making sure you get it right. It is about doing so many times the "right way" that you don't get it wrong".

Sometimes players "get it" and other times they "don't". Look at the post game press conference with Bryce and Will Monday night. Even though they played their guts out, all they wanted to discuss was how they felt they could have "done better" and how they felt "they let the team down". For them, it is about constantly improving as a player to IMPACT THE TEAM in a positive way. I think that was the reason CNS made the comment concerning Bryce and Will that "they are not defined by one game".

I'm not an offensive analyst but I don't think you have to be to see what CNS was getting at back in August with Billingsley. If someone did a "cut up" for the season it would be as clear as the nose on your face. And it has to with effort and will, not ability.

Were there "other things" going on with the young man off the field, outside of football? Something internally eating at him? Maybe. But I do know this. If there were, then CNS is the guy to have in your corner. And maybe, just maybe, that was the reason Jalheel saw the field as much as he did during the season and Monday night. A chance at redemption? A chance to show he was "getting it"? I don't know.

Jalheel seeking to transfer was more of an expectation than a surprise. I wish him well and hope he finds what he needs not only as a football player but person growing into adulthood. @Padreruf often quotes that famous possum philosopher Pogo "I have met the enemy and he is us". Sometimes our greatest growth comes when we realize our greatest stumbling block is ourselves.
 

gtgilbert

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Kept waiting for JB to explode. Never quite could. I wish him well and hope he finds a good fit for his talents.
yeah - watching Holden, Brooks and Hall all get the call with Metchie and JAMO down and not getting any reps at all, especially with the Brooks and Halls dropsies, very likely pushed him to the portal. that and the loaded bunch of WRs coming in with the 22 class. Wish him well as long as he's not playing us...
 

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A work colleague of mine said one of the local sports stations in Nashville was discussing the transfer portal and NIL. One of the hosts stated that he heard that an Ole Miss booster had put together a NIL agreement of $500K for TCU transfer Zach Evans. Wished I had that kind of money to be brain dead stupid with.....
 

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A work colleague of mine said one of the local sports stations in Nashville was discussing the transfer portal and NIL. One of the hosts stated that he heard that an Ole Miss booster had put together a NIL agreement of $500K for TCU transfer Zach Evans. Wished I had that kind of money to be brain dead stupid with.....
Some of these NIL contracts will look stupid if one of these guys flames out early.
 
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TIDE-HSV

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Earle, we all know that there have been many highly skilled and capable players during the CNS that had playing time reduced or didn't see the field because he expects you will execute at a high level in ALL the requirements of that position. As example, look at the RB's through the years that didn't see the field because of inability to consistently pass block or pick up blitzes.

My thought is that the point of contention with Billingsley was effort in those other areas and (if you listen closely to his comments back in August) his dedication to working to improve those things consistently in practice. One thing I'll always remember about CNS is a statement he made (paraphrasing) about reps, consistency and effort along the lines of "practice isn't just about making sure you get it right. It is about doing so many times the "right way" that you don't get it wrong".

Sometimes players "get it" and other times they "don't". Look at the post game press conference with Bryce and Will Monday night. Even though they played their guts out, all they wanted to discuss was how they felt they could have "done better" and how they felt "they let the team down". For them, it is about constantly improving as a player to IMPACT THE TEAM in a positive way. I think that was the reason CNS made the comment concerning Bryce and Will that "they are not defined by one game".

I'm not an offensive analyst but I don't think you have to be to see what CNS was getting at back in August with Billingsley. If someone did a "cut up" for the season it would be as clear as the nose on your face. And it has to with effort and will, not ability.

Were there "other things" going on with the young man off the field, outside of football? Something internally eating at him? Maybe. But I do know this. If there were, then CNS is the guy to have in your corner. And maybe, just maybe, that was the reason Jalheel saw the field as much as he did during the season and Monday night. A chance at redemption? A chance to show he was "getting it"? I don't know.

Jalheel seeking to transfer was more of an expectation than a surprise. I wish him well and hope he finds what he needs not only as a football player but person growing into adulthood. @Padreruf often quotes that famous possum philosopher Pogo "I have met the enemy and he is us". Sometimes our greatest growth comes when we realize our greatest stumbling block is ourselves.
It would have been a major surprise, if he hadn't transferred...
 
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bamacpa

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I know the portal is new, but pre-portal departures who found success elsewhere are Kamara, Sentimore to some degree and who else ? Obviously, Hurts, but that was a special circumstance. Any others I've forgotten ?
 

AlistarWills

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So here’s a question. Why hasn’t some rich Vanderbilt booster drug some studs to Nashville? I mean, take the guys bailing out at Bama and land them in Nashville and suddenly Vanderbilt football looks A LOT different.
Who am I kidding…I just remembered the academic side at Vandy….d’oh
 

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I know the portal is new, but pre-portal departures who found success elsewhere are Kamara, Sentimore to some degree and who else ? Obviously, Hurts, but that was a special circumstance. Any others I've forgotten ?
Jerome Ford, the back that went to Colo State when Mac was there. and Blake, of course
 
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