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I have it on reliable source that we are going to drop Basketball and put our surplus into forming a co-ed curling team. We will most likely go abroad to hire Angus MacBlack to be the head coach. He will work for tips, and have a broom contract. Angus is renown as the leading authority on smooth, granite-like curling thingys.
 
cuda.1973 said:
When grilled on not winning enough, and more importantly, the right kind of wins, he pointed to how many players he put in the NBA. Something along those lines.

Now, if that is the case, do we want someone who swims in the AAU cesspool, for one-and-done players, who are more interested in when they can go to the NBA, and how many times they make the Sports Center highlight reel.

Not me..............
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Ok, first to be clear I understand why Barnes shouldn't necessarily be tops on the list. I get that there are some issues there, but what available (proven) coach doesn't have issues? We saw all the reasons not to get Howland, Pearl, etc... but it doesn't change the fact that Miss. State and Auburn now have proven basketball coaches and Alabama doesn't. I want a coach that wins, and what has Barnes done? At Texas he had a .691 winning percentage, and he made the NCAA tournament 16 out of 17 years. For the record, Alabama has made the NCAA tournament once since 2006. Clearly, Alabama is doing something very wrong, and Barnes was doing something right. Anyway, criticism of Barnes was completely unwarranted in terms of winning. Sure, may be he's their version of Wimp, but guess what? That's not a bad thing.

Not only does Barnes have the most wins in Texas history, he has one third of their final four appearances, and half of the NCAA appearances. He also accounts for 3 out of their 7 elite 8 appearances. He became a victim of his own success, he did so well so consistently that they became spoiled. I don't care one tiny bit if he's a jerk or not, as long as he's a jerk that produces results.

So yeah, I do want someone who "swims in the AAU cesspoll, for one-and-done players". Absolutely, isn't that what Calipari does? Didn't Gottfried get the one of the top players in the country once, a one-and-done when he had things going well at Alabama? Didn't things start going downhill for Gottfried and the program when Alabama wasn't in play for Bledsoe and Cousins? Those guys are absolutely who the team desperately needs.

But, I've seen so many comments here about things that have nothing at all to do with winning. It's like some people want Alabama basketball to be a trophy wife, just sit there and look pretty but not actually do anything. Guess what? Nick Saban is disliked by a lot of people, he's not media friendly, he apparently said some negative things about Alabama, he's criticized the fans, and he wins! Ask me which of those matters to me...
 
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GP for Bama said:
Not me.....that seems like way too much. There are more fish in the sea.
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I can understand that. I just think if we want the basketball program to get back where it should be that we shouldn't lose a great coach over a couple million dollars. That really is peanuts to the Alabama athletic department..
 
Al A Bama said:
I agree with you.

I think $2-$2.5 million base with an incentive to win the SEC title and to be in the March Madness Dance + a final 4 + a final 2 + a National Championship.

If we don't get Marshall and if Texas fires Barnes, I think we need to hire him. He has a proven record. Give him that $2.5 to to $2.75 million with lots of the above INCENTIVES in the contract.

I wouldn't pay Marshall more than a $2 million base with lots of incentives. They've got to have a REASON to be PRODUCTIVE.
The boosters can buy him a $1 to $1.5 mil. home + $150,000 budget for the wife to purchase furniture to make the move easier. If I didn't add in pay for the move from Wichita, then add that too.
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I tend to agree with this.
 
Alasippi said:
If you don't read "all the way through the thread" then keep your mouth shut.
It's not my fault that you haven't been involved in the discussion.
For goodness sakes Force, get off my case. You're ridiculous.
If I post, "It's a sunny day", you'd post, "That depends on how you'd define "sunshine".
Please!!!!! War over! You win! Just go away!
sip
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You need to stand down and chill now.


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RTR91 said:
Might not be able to track the plane, but it's about to take off from the Tuscaloosa airport...

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I know the pilot if that helps. :)


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Some people still just do NOT seem to get it. Through horrible decisions by CMG, one awful stint with Hobbs, and a good swing but a bad miss with Grant Bama has driven that program into a damn decade of irrelevance. We did the same thing with football. We said ENOUGH!!! We HAD to hit a HR with Saban to change the perception, direction, and culture in football! Yes, in Bama football. We did and it was an astounding success. We've decided to do the same thing with Basketball and I feel we're about to hit a HR because a LOT of things must be addressed but the first and most important being PERCEPTION. Fans, players current and future need to see we are serious and ready for success at the capstone on the hardwood. This is that first and most critical step.


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Marshall is the guy with a proven track record of taking college level skilled players (not your one and done) and making his team competitive. With a sprinkle of maybe a Gerald Wallace, Antonio McDyess, Maurice Williams, or even a James Robinson, he could propel Alabama to once again making the tournament every year. I believe the resources at Alabama and the SEC could give him the ability to lure a few big name recruits to push this program back to where it belongs. He's shown he can coach and develop players to compete with national powers. I would dare say he could've put together a better record here this year than was posted.

Now, let's go get this guy and let the fun begin.

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TIDE-HSV said:
The Bama offer will be far higher than that...
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And it should be. We're going to make a statement with this hire because we have too. To have a Tradition of excellence you have to have the commitment to it. Our university has shown that with EVERY sport and it has paid off. Why wouldn't we do it in one of the most visible and lucrative? I know you and me and the other basketball fans have longed for this day. Roll Tide!!!


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We can and will outbid WSU for Marshall.

The question is whether we'll outbid them by enough (after a raise to $2.5-$3.0) to incent him to abandon what is essentially a certain lifetime annuity for the uncertainty of rebuilding Alabama and banging heads with Calipari, Donovan, Howland, Pearl, et. al.

On top of that, he's the cat-daddy at WSU and in the city of Wichita. In Tuscaloosa, the best he can hope for is second fiddle in both.

We have to not just outbid WSU. We have to outbid them by a lot.
 
bamacon said:
Some people still just do NOT seem to get it. Through horrible decisions by CMG, one awful stint with Hobbs, and a good swing but a bad miss with Grant Bama has driven that program into a damn decade of irrelevance. We did the same thing with football. We said ENOUGH!!! We HAD to hit a HR with Saban to change the perception, direction, and culture in football! Yes, in Bama football. We did and it was an astounding success. We've decided to do the same thing with Basketball and I feel we're about to hit a HR because a LOT of things must be addressed but the first and most important being PERCEPTION. Fans, players current and future need to see we are serious and ready for success at the caIpstone on the hardwood. This is that first and most critical step.
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Well understood and said. Some here do not realize how good Marshall is. Some think he is the best in the country. IMO, his style is very similar to Izzo's, especially in the mental and physical toughness that characterize his teams. He does not use any kind of gimmick.

To offer anything less than 4 mil was possibly going to be matched by WSU - an exercise in futility. This is not a normal hire but a statement.
 
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BamaInBham said:
Well understood and said. Some here do not realize how good Marshall is. Some think he is the best in the country. IMO, his style is very similar to Izzo's, especially in the mental and physical toughness that characterize his teams. He does not use any kind of gimmick.

To offer anything less than 4 mil was possibly going to be matched by WSU - an exercise in futility. This is not a normal hire but a statement.
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BamaInBham said:
Well understood and said. Some here do not realize how good Marshall is. Some think he is the best in the country. IMO, his style is very similar to Izzo's, especially in the mental and physical toughness that characterize his teams. He does not use any kind of gimmick.

To offer anything less than 4 mil was possibly going to be matched by WSU - an exercise in futility. This is not a normal hire but a statement.
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I may be wrong, but I don't believe that WSU could even match 3 million. I really would like to know what UT offered him last year. I'm going to guess in the range of 2-2.5 million. Neither of those ADs can begin to keep up with us, dollar-wise. I just hope we can offer him more than money...
 
BamaInBham said:
Well understood and said. Some here do not realize how good Marshall is. Some think he is the best in the country. IMO, his style is very similar to Izzo's, especially in the mental and physical toughness that characterize his teams. He does not use any kind of gimmick.

To offer anything less than 4 mil was possibly going to be matched by WSU - an exercise in futility. This is not a normal hire but a statement.
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Exactly. This hire is a statement about how the athletic department and the PTB feel about basketball. If that means pay the best available coach a high salary, so be it. We have the money to spend. I'm tired of hearing crap from the national media and other fans about the job not being popular.


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