New Documentary: "THE END OF SUBURBIA: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of...."

[MasterShake]

New Documentary: "THE END OF SUBURBIA: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of...."

THE END OF SUBURBIA: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of The American Dream

Preview


"We're literally stuck up a cul-de-sac in a cement SUV without a fill-up" - James Howard Kunstler

Since World War II North Americans have invested much of their newfound wealth in suburbia. It has promised a sense of space, affordability, family life and upward mobility. As the population of suburban sprawl has exploded in the past 50 years, so too the suburban way of life has become embedded in the American consciousness.

Suburbia, and all it promises, has become the American Dream.

But as we enter the 21st century, serious questions are beginning to emerge about the sustainability of this way of life. With brutal honesty and a touch of irony, The End of Suburbia explores the American Way of Life and its prospects as the planet approaches a critical era, as global demand for fossil fuels begins to outstrip supply. World Oil Peak and the inevitable decline of fossil fuels are upon us now, some scientists and policy makers argue in this documentary.

I saw this documentary last night. I encourage all to watch this documentary, but real estate investors, developers, and suburban dwellers should make a special note to watch this documentary.

If anyone wants a copy notify me via PM.

 

[Piglet]

Better public transit and grain-based fuels like ADM has been working with ought to go a ways toward solving the problem, right?

Yeah, oil's finite and is gonna run out one of these days. It ain't exactly the end of the world...we got by without gas-powered vehicles until the last 100 years or so, and we'll come up with something else when the necessity arises. We always do.

 

[Pachydermatous]

Calm yourself, MasterShake. Take three aspirin, say your prayers, get a good night's sleep, and everything will seem better in the morning.

Fossil fuels or their lack of abundance haven't stopped people living in Connecticut and working in New York City. Nor have they deterred others from laboring in Chicago and sleeping in Mundelein. Suburbanites triumph over all adversity, even if they have to move farther out and become exurbanites. :biggrin:

 

[MasterShake]

Calm yourself, MasterShake. Take three aspirin, say your prayers, get a good night's sleep, and everything will seem better in the morning.

Fossil fuels or their lack of abundance haven't stopped people living in Connecticut and working in New York City. Nor have they deterred others from laboring in Chicago and sleeping in Mundelein. Suburbanites triumph over all adversity, even if they have to move farther out and become exurbanites. :biggrin:

There has been no lack of abundance yet. That is exactly why suburbia has had the success it has. Now that it is inevitable that oil prices will only continue to rise, then likewise it is inevitable for suburbia to perish.

 

[Pachydermatous]

"....it is inevitable for suburbia to perish."

That sounds terribly biblical. In the other hand, it could be encouraging. Trapped in the outback by fuel shortages, suburbanites will have no choice but to become farmers. Thus our population will return to the land from whence it came, converting our nation into the bucolic, primarily agricultural venue of our forefathers. Glutted and depraved big cities will disgorge their peoples into this healthier environment to be cleansed and revived. The horse again will assume his place as transporter of humankind and its goods. The clang of the blacksmith's hammer will be once more heard in our land.

I hope you haven't forgotten how to ride a horse???

 

[bamabake]

Way of Life and its prospects as the planet approaches a critical era, as global demand for fossil fuels begins to outstrip supply. World Oil Peak and the inevitable decline of fossil fuels are upon us now, some scientists and policy makers argue in this documentary.

This premise is flawed. There is no shortaage of oil in the world:

http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/

What has happened is that "proven" reserves, which reflect the economics of petroleum development, have been the dominant underlying premise in reserve information. Other geologically valid categories of oil reserves have been ignored.


http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/3unconventional.html


What is an unconventional oil reserve?

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/102spring2002_Web_projects/M.Sexton/

In fact, the reserve that is deemed to be technologically retrievable today is estimated at 280-300Gb (billion barrels). This is larger than the Saudi Arabia oil reserves, which are estimated at 240Gb. The total reserves for Alberta, including oil not recoverable using current technology, are estimated at 1,700- 2,500Gb.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/sources/non-renewable/offshore.html


Methane hydrates may be a great source of natural gas for the future. Worldwide natural gas resources are only about 13,000 trillion cubic feet and worldwide natural gas reserves are about 5,000 trillion cubic feet. Methane hydrates may represent about 742,000 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. In the United States alone, the U.S. Department of Energy estimates there to be 200,000 trillion cubic feet of methane hydrate deposits.



This issue is poitically driven and of course is driven by money. There is a rediculous supply of both oil and natural gas left in the world. The first link explores how the infomation is skewed by looking at only one type of reserve etc.
I say that America is the world best hope to prosper into the future. It will be Americans that lead the way in retrieving these resources.


Sorry to ruin a goof TV show for you but the show premise is BS


cheers

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Better public transit and grain-based fuels like ADM has been working with ought to go a ways toward solving the problem, right?

Yeah, oil's finite and is gonna run out one of these days. It ain't exactly the end of the world...we got by without gas-powered vehicles until the last 100 years or so, and we'll come up with something else when the necessity arises. We always do.

I hope this was said with some sarcasm.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

A few notes on gasoline:

1) Europeans pay the equivalent of $6/gallon we're just now paying $2.

2) Gasoline has not kept up with inflation over the years. Count your blessings.

3) Increased regulatory requirements on refineries and stations equal higher prices - call your lawmakers.

Otherwise, quit griping.

 

[Mamacalled]

Also, compare the price of bottled water with gas. Look at how many changes oil has to go through and how many regulations oil companies have to abide by to get the gas to your car. It is amazing that it is as cheap as it is.

 

[MasterShake]

This premise is flawed. There is no shortaage of oil in the world:

http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/



Sorry to ruin a goof TV show for you but the show premise is BS


cheers

Wow, so quick to knock a documentary you haven't seen? Funny, I knew this would happen.

The premise, which you so blatently missed, was that we are nearing our peak oil supply, not that there is a shortage already. China is demanding more and more oil everyday, this demand will continue to rise exponentially as China's economy improves (which it has for the past decade).

Do the math

More demand on oil + world peak oil nearing = everything that revolves around oil will die with the oil.. this including suburbia.

Don't make assumptions, just watch the documentary and then come back and criticize.

 

[Crim De Le Crim]

Wake me when it's over ....

 

[mikeua69]

Weren't we hearing the same thing 25 years ago???

 

[MasterShake]

Weren't we hearing the same thing 25 years ago???

Yes, when peak oil was reached in Texas, 1977.

 

[JackDaniels]

Anyone know what a used stanley steamer sells for?

 

[Queasy1]

 

[Bodhisattva]

I'm waiting for the Left to mandate that everyone live within walking distance of their job/relatives/grocery store/dentist/etc.

Bodhi

 

[bamabake]

Wow, so quick to knock a documentary you haven't seen? Funny, I knew this would happen.

The premise, which you so blatently missed, was that we are nearing our peak oil supply, not that there is a shortage already. China is demanding more and more oil everyday, this demand will continue to rise exponentially as China's economy improves (which it has for the past decade).

Do the math

More demand on oil + world peak oil nearing = everything that revolves around oil will die with the oil.. this including suburbia.

Don't make assumptions, just watch the documentary and then come back and criticize.

The premise, which you so blatently missed, was that we are nearing our peak oil supply, not that there is a shortage already. China is demanding more and more oil everyday, this demand will continue to rise exponentially as China's economy improves (which it has for the past decade).

Small distintion bucko. So it wasnt " blatently missed". Also it doesnt change the facts that I linked to you ( that you apparently didnt read) as it relates
to a documentary on us NEARING OUR PEAK OIL SUPPLY. Since that is so far from the truth why would I waste my time watching a doc on it. You get your facts straight and then you can participate more robustly.

 

[MasterShake]

Small distintion bucko. So it wasnt " blatently missed". Also it doesnt change the facts that I linked to you ( that you apparently didnt read) as it relates
to a documentary on us NEARING OUR PEAK OIL SUPPLY. Since that is so far from the truth why would I waste my time watching a doc on it. You get your facts straight and then you can participate more robustly.

I don't need you dictating how I can or can not participate. If you want to get down to the barebones facts, that is we have no clue when global peak oil supply will occur. With China jumping into the mix, we do know that it will occur and it will be sooner rather than later.

You and your biased websites believe there are billions upon billions of gallons of oil and natural gas yet untapped in undisclosed locations throughout the world. So what? Are we then supposed to invest billions of dollars in a wild goose hunt around the globe looking for this oil? Or do we invest that same money into clean and renewable energy that we KNOW exists. I think any educated person would pick the later.

 

[MasterShake]

I'm waiting for the Left to mandate that everyone live within walking distance of their job/relatives/grocery store/dentist/etc.

Bodhi

That is just absurd.

Stay on topic.

 

[Bodhisattva]

Are we then supposed to invest billions of dollars in a wild goose hunt around the globe looking for this oil? Or do we invest that same money into clean and renewable energy that we KNOW exists. I think any educated person would pick the later.

Who is we? Do you mean taxpayers? It is business that takes the risks with these investments -- both looking for oil and researching alternative fuel sources. We, as taxpayers, do spend tons of money through government efforts to frustrate the efforts of business that would benefit us all. The government spends our taxes to effectively raise the price we pay at the pump. We're getting screwed at both ends.

Bodhi