NIL question — Is Alabama Behind on NIL?

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I honestly do not understand giving money to a college kid that might make your favorite team good/great. I guess I prefer not throwing money away when I really get nothing in return. Maybe I am just used to being poor to middle class so I am more guarded with my money?
It's not a poor to middle-class thing, I think. By and large, wealthy people do not get (and stay) that way by throwing money away with no return.
 

timmyj3

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I admit to having very little info on how NIL is handled by the schools, and player. Not to mention the folks providing the cash. My question is, aren't contracts involved? If so, why wouldn't a school/entity be able to lock up a payer for 3-4 years If you enter the portal you have violated your contract. This is how the real world work with contract employment/services.

The NIL seems very imbalanced to the player right now. I am not one who thinks scholarship athletes should be paid. But, that ship has sailed as we enter the professional minor league phase of college football.

The real future for us purists is DII and possibly the G5. The future will be rocky as the present NIL is not sustainable.
 

RammerJammer14

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Well, the articles posted in the transfer portal about Proctor seem to show we have some work to do. He claimed the NIL package @ Iowa was better than Bama. If true, that’s unacceptable. The Saban discount is gone.
Well my understanding from others here is that Alabama prefers to even out the NIL across the team to prevent animosity. Where other programs pay a single player a bunch of money and other guys nothing.
 
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MemphisBamaDude

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I think the powers that be should try something like this. Rather than just asking people to donate.
 

RammerJammer14

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I think the powers that be should try something like this. Rather than just asking people to donate.
Good idea imo. But are people in Alabama going to be cool with that? There are a lot more dry counties in Alabama than Ohio I bet.
 
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I honestly do not understand giving money to a college kid that might make your favorite team good/great. I guess I prefer not throwing money away when I really get nothing in return. Maybe I am just used to being poor to middle class so I am more guarded with my money?
Yea Alabama does have merch and supposedly 100% of proceeds go to NIL. At least that way you do get something tangible from your "donation." I've thought about ordering from there, but I agree - I won't be "joining" and paying the monthly fee...
 

MemphisBamaDude

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Good idea imo. But are people in Alabama going to be cool with that? There are a lot more dry counties in Alabama than Ohio I bet.
I’m sure there are but it’s not like they’re making moonshine lol. This would be sold are established breweries and gas stations. More urban-focused. Hell, just focus on Tuscaloosa and Bham to start and it would be huge.
 

RammerJammer14

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I’m sure there are but it’s not like they’re making moonshine lol. This would be sold are established breweries and gas stations. More urban-focused. Hell, just focus on Tuscaloosa and Bham to start and it would be huge.
No, I meant would this upset a lot of Alabama fans, their university paying for NIL with alcohol sales.
 
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rolltide_21

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Well my understanding from others here is that Alabama prefers to even out the NIL across the team to prevent animosity. Where other programs pay a single player a bunch of money and other guys nothing.
Right, I’m good with that set up btw & how I think NIL was intended. Of course there will be others that have created more value for themselves and they are supposed to explore those endorsements themselves when offered not pay for play through the schools. But, unfortunately, this is where we are.
 

rolltide_21

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Maybe, but he may be the only 5 star on the Iowa roster. Alabama has to pay for a bunch of these guys. I would bet that Alabama's total NIL spend dwarfs that of Iowa.
Understood. And we’ll get out bid on occasion by an Iowa. But, as others have pointed out, the Saban discount is gone and we do have some work to do. Imo, both things can be true.
 

B1GTide

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It needs to be dismantled. The portal needs to be dismantled. You want to “fix” the game, do those two things.

I realize that’s not going to happen. Anything else is just decorating the train car interior as the locomotive steams toward the cliff with no bridge to the other side.
Yeah, this whole discussion is an exercise ise in therapeutic venting. None of this change is happening.
 

TheRealPokeChop

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So I realize there's a way to register and donate to the Bama collective but I'm just an average fan and what I give I give to my church.

I'm sure this will be a way to raise money for the collective for fans who want to donate (that's everybody's free will choice).

But if some big changes are going to occur, who are the uber-rich Bama celebrities out there?

We've got a bunch of recently minted multi-millionaires that CNS put in the league, but I'm talking about rich people who just love Bama and would be willing to donate some significant funds.

Like who's our Yella Wood Guy, or Nike Guy or Boone Pickens guys/gals???
You can also buy merchandise from the collective, if you can't do the subscription (which starts around 18 a month, 5 for students) or you can directly pick a player and buy a jersey, or lank shirt, or other item. Thats actually a great way to say thanks to some of the guys whove stuck this whole thing out.
 
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JDCrimson

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We could probably get a state lottery passed if we told everyone it was going to be used for NIL.

If Cincy is going to sell beer, maybe we can convince the Poarch Creek Indians to sponsor NIL.

Why don't we just contact the Saudis?


Someone brought it up earlier, but in the current no rules landscape it would real easy for the mafia to get involved in the NIL market...
 

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So I realize there's a way to register and donate to the Bama collective but I'm just an average fan and what I give I give to my church.

I'm sure this will be a way to raise money for the collective for fans who want to donate (that's everybody's free will choice).

But if some big changes are going to occur, who are the uber-rich Bama celebrities out there?

We've got a bunch of recently minted multi-millionaires that CNS put in the league, but I'm talking about rich people who just love Bama and would be willing to donate some significant funds.

Like who's our Yella Wood Guy, or Nike Guy or Boone Pickens guys/gals???
Your very last question`s a good one. We either don`t have any or they`re awfully good at keeping a low profile.
 

Tideflyer

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We could probably get a state lottery passed if we told everyone it was going to be used for NIL.

If Cincy is going to sell beer, maybe we can convince the Poarch Creek Indians to sponsor NIL.

Why don't we just contact the Saudis?


Someone brought it up earlier, but in the current no rules landscape it would real easy for the mafia to get involved in the NIL market...
I`d be surprised if organized crime hasn`t already taken a look at it. 1. Is there any money to be made? 2. If the answer to #1 is "Yes ", is it enough to be worth taking risk ( if indeed there is any )?, and 3. Is there an angle to be played to get in?
 

B1GTide

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I`d be surprised if organized crime hasn`t already taken a look at it. 1. Is there any money to be made? 2. If the answer to #1 is "Yes ", is it enough to be worth taking risk ( if indeed there is any )?, and 3. Is there an angle to be played to get in?
Yep, CEOs everywhere looking to get involved.
 

RammerJammer14

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You can also buy merchandise from the collective, if you can't do the subscription (which starts around 18 a month, 5 for students) or you can directly pick a player and buy a jersey, or lank shirt, or other item. Thats actually a great way to say thanks to some of the guys whove stuck this whole thing out.
Wait wait wait. Hold on. We are now asking students to pay fellow “students” money to play football? Seriously? This crap is out of control. If I was still a student, that would just be an insult to my dignity. I pay all this tuition money, I pay for books, food, dorm, etc and you are going to ask me to also chip in to pay my supposedly fellow students to be students at my school? I’d tell them to get bent.

I like college football and love the Tide, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to stuff dollar bills in some kid’s pocket because he plays football and I want him to pretend he likes me and my school. No other sport operates like this or asks such things of fans. Talk about a fleece job.
 
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JDCrimson

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This environment is a very attractive market for money laundering...

I`d be surprised if organized crime hasn`t already taken a look at it. 1. Is there any money to be made? 2. If the answer to #1 is "Yes ", is it enough to be worth taking risk ( if indeed there is any )?, and 3. Is there an angle to be played to get in?
 

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