Notre Lame too good for a bowl

[PGDocBama]

Hahahaha, what a bunch of children.

Extremely immature. Wish they would be excluded from Playoff contention for one season for this outrage.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Btw, y'all need better ammo so here's some more.


2003 - Oklahoma lost their conference championship game WORSE than Alabama did. They not only played for the national championship, THEY REMAINED AT NUMBER ONE for Pete's sake!!!

The winning coach in that BCS title game was none other than our very own Nick Saban!

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Btw, y'all need better ammo so here's some more.


2003 - Oklahoma lost their conference championship game WORSE than Alabama did. They not only played for the national championship, THEY REMAINED AT NUMBER ONE for Pete's sake!!!

USCw fans are still ticked off to this day. Weirdly most of their angst is towards lsu.

 

[Redwood Forrest]

I can't stand Notre Dame for elitism, but their AD was correct when he accused the CFP committee of monkeying around with the ranking until the final rank. We have all noticed they do this to build drama for the REVEL Tuesday shows. It also generates click bate for all the experts online.
There is only need for one ranking, the final one.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

USCw fans are still ticked off to this day. Weirdly most of their angst is towards lsu.

Yea but that's because they were #2 and dropped.

Btw - speaking of "what the hell".......look at what actually happened in 2003:

NEXT TO LAST
1) Oklahoma - nation's sole unbeaten team
2) USC - one loss to Aaron Rodgers's Cal in triple OT
3) LSU - a 19-7 loss to Florida
4) Michigan - at 10-2, it was obvious that OU COULD NOT drop below #3 in the human polls, even with a loss. That was the first crucial factor that set this up because it ensured OU could not fall from #1, even if they got blown out

GAMES OF DECEMBER 6, 2003
Syracuse 38 Notre Dame 12
Boise St 45 Hawaii 28
LSU 34 Georgia 13
Kansas State 35 Oklahoma 7

Because both Hawaii and Notre Dame were on the USC schedule, it lowered their SoS just enough - I mean BARELY enough - to give LSU a .30 margin over USC. It was SO CLOSE that if one of the four computers used switched their spots, USC plays Oklahoma.

The biggest issue was this: because coaches were terrified that the BCS would lead teams to run up the score, they eliminated the margin of victory component. This mattered - because the COMPUTERS treated USC's triple OT loss by six to Cal the same it did OU's 35-7 butt kicking at the hands of K-State. Everyone who ever knew anything about ranking teams KNEW that you don't get a free pass, especially not when OU in early November was being called the greatest team ever.

USC OUGHT to be with themselves.

If they'd beaten Cal, they'd have played Oklahoma.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Can we petition NCAA to force Notre Dame to drop the "fighting" from their name. They have no more fight in them than a corpse. While we are at it, can they drop the "Irish" from their name also?

Notre Dame Snollygoster? Notre Dame Mumpsimus?

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The Whining Irish

 

[Snuffy Smith]

I could think of a few things the NCAA could do if they want to give people more incentive to participate in bowl games.

• Increase the number of practices
• Don’t count participation in bowl games towards redshirt eligibility
• Allow early enrollees & transfers to participate without any long term eligibility impact

In other words, make it worth their time and effort to participate to the long term betterment of their program.

 

[92tide]

The Whining Irish

neutered dames

 

[DrollTide]

The Whining I-wish

 

[TideEngineer08]

I can't stand Notre Dame for elitism, but their AD was correct when he accused the CFP committee of monkeying around with the ranking until the final rank. We have all noticed they do this to build drama for the REVEL Tuesday shows. It also generates click bate for all the experts online.
There is only need for one ranking, the final one.

Yes he was correct about that. Some of us have been shouting about this since the playoff began in 2014. The weekly rankings show is and always has been a farce, a theater production solely for ratings and ad revenue. I haven't watched it in years. Even basketball does not do this; they have a committee, but it convenes the weekend of the conference tournament championships and the first bracket the public sees is the final one (unless its leaked, of course).

Yet, these same fans I see screaming about the committee double down on their shrieking if you suggest ending the weekly rankings show, thinking somehow it reduces transparency. THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY NOW. What you see each week means nothing towards the next week! Why people have yet to grasp this I do not know.

 

[Toddrn]

The Fighting Irish's complete 2026 schedule:
They don't want any part of the SEC.

• vs. Wisconsin
• vs. Rice
• vs. Michigan State
• at Purdue
• at UNC
• vs. Navy
• vs. Miami
• vs. Boston College
• vs. SMU
• at Syracuse
• vs. Stanford
• vs. USC

 

[arthurdawg]

For what it worth this was the explanation on the ESPN article:

"Bevacqua said Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman talked to the team's captains after the CFP snub about other bowl opportunities. The captains told Freeman they knew a number of players with NFL draft potential would opt-out and didn't want to play a game with a dramatically different roster.
'It just wouldn't be the same,' Bevacqua said."

Unless conferences put their foot down regarding revenue distribution or something with some bite like that I think we are much closer to this being the norm than not. As a person who grew up enjoying bowl games during the golden age of bowl games (80s and 90s), I think that the bowl game model is on its last legs. Teams will want campus games for the opening rounds of an expanded playoff and really only the quarters and beyond would be played at neutral sites (bowls/bids).

Having 15 practices to teach your younger guys and eval everyone is basically an extra spring... That is a huge amount of time to give up in this era.

 

[arthurdawg]

The Fighting Irish's complete 2026 schedule:
They don't want any part of the SEC.

• vs. Wisconsin
• vs. Rice
• vs. Michigan State
• at Purdue
• at UNC
• vs. Navy
• vs. Miami
• vs. Boston College
• vs. SMU
• at Syracuse
• vs. Stanford
• vs. USC

That is pitiful for a team that claims they are playoff worthy.

 

[davefrat]

And now ND has a deal that guarantees them a bid if they finish ranked 12 or higher.

I think that is light years ahead of any perceived pro Bama-bias in terms of special favored treatment.

Why on earth would anyone else agree to this?

 

[dayhiker]

 

[GrayTide]

Realign all the NCAA teams. Create a separate division for all Group of 5 teams, let them setup and schedule their own CFP. The SEC, Big10, Big 12, and ACC in the other division. IIRC doing this puts approximately the same number of teams in the newly created divisions, roughly 65-68 teams in each new division.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

That is pitiful for a team that claims they are playoff worthy.

They will probably start 2026 ranked in the top 5. With that schedule, they are in the playoffs. They could lose to Wisky and still won't drop out of the top 10

 

[GP for Bama]

The Fighting Irish's complete 2026 schedule:
They don't want any part of the SEC.

• vs. Wisconsin
• vs. Rice
• vs. Michigan State
• at Purdue
• at UNC
• vs. Navy
• vs. Miami
• vs. Boston College
• vs. SMU
• at Syracuse
• vs. Stanford
• vs. USC

Wow! What a joke of a schedule. The easy schedule is the reason ND likes playing ACC teams.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

So now Notre Dame is ticked off with the ACC because apparently the ACC campaigned against their inclusion in the playoff. Which was bizarre to the Notre Dame AD because Notre Dame has done soooooo much for the ACC.

Except join the ACC in football, that is. Look, the ACC has done just as much if not more for Notre Dame as Notre Dame has done for the ACC. It has given the Irish a place to house all of their "Olympic" sports (except hockey), and in return it gets 5 football games against Notre Dame each year. Which again, benefits Notre Dame as much as it does the ACC. True independence in collegiate athletics does not exist any longer. As conference schedules in football expand, it becomes increasingly difficult for Notre Dame to fill out its football schedule. Getting 5 guaranteed games with the ACC actually helps them. Plus, the wink wink nod nod benefit of a "difficult" schedule. Mind you also, Notre Dame does not share one cent of its football revenue with the ACC.

What is Notre Dame actually going to do about it? If they do not help prop up the ACC in some way, if they abandon them, they will certainly collapse (probably will regardless). Notre Dame still needs to house its non-football sports somewhere. There is no way the SEC or Big Ten gives them the cushy relationship that the ACC has. They will be forced to join in full, or not at all. The Big 12 might allow the halfway relationship, but I doubt it, and I doubt Notre Dame would "stoop" to joining them in any way.

If Notre Dame bails on the ACC, it really has nowhere to go except to join the Big Ten in full.

Notre Dame being confused why the ACC didn’t promote them over Miami is like the side chick confused why her man spends the holidays with his wife and kids.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

notre dame can Uncle Rico this the rest of their lives. "If the committee just put us in we could have won it all. No doubt in my mond."