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[editder]

Funny isn’t it? Normally many of us would be raising immortal hell about the absolute atrocious blown call on Williams 4th down touchdown catch that was called back.

Today? It is hardly a blip on our screen because, even at that point, it didn’t matter. We already had been so thoroughly dominated in all phases of the game by OU.

Now THAT is a sad commentary.

Also lost is the fact that it was a stupid play to begin with. 99.9% of WRs in college football wouldn’t have made that catch, and the blown call would have ended up a moot point anyway. It was a great catch, not a great throw and was a microcosm of everything that’s wrong with him. A simple three-yard completion was all that was needed and would have been a higher percentage play— for most people at least.

 

[Crimson Speed]

Also a fun fact… only twice in the last 50 years has a team entering with a losing record win the IB. 1984 and 2001.

Again I still think it comes down to whether or not Alabama wants it or not.

That is good to know, but history has little to do with what happens in this IB. Also, Auburn has improved as the season progressed. They have momentum, even if it is late in the season. We do not. If we suffer a loss and it results in the dismissal of Milroe , it will be worth it. This season is shot and we all know why. So, the time is near to start looking to the future and making changes that give us some consistency.

 

[Crimson Speed]

Funny isn’t it? Normally many of us would be raising immortal hell about the absolute atrocious blown call on Williams 4th down touchdown catch that was called back.

Today? It is hardly a blip on our screen because, even at that point, it didn’t matter. We already had been so thoroughly dominated in all phases of the game by OU.

Now THAT is a sad commentary.

I agree. We had already dug ourselves in too deep of a hole at that point.

 

[Crimson Speed]

This.

His play deserves to be criticized but to attack his character like you know him personally as if he’s this evil mastermind holding a program hostage is a bit much, cause if you honestly believe that then we might as well shut the program down tomorrow. He hasn’t gotten in trouble one time, always says the right things in the media, etc, he just isn’t a great QB, and that’s okay, we won’t always have great QBs at Alabama.

Well, those close to the program know he has held the program hostage. I don't know how else to say it when he has the offensive line stating they will refuse to block for anyone other than him. I have said that he has a problem seeing the field when attempting to pass the ball. That is a proven fact. I believe athletic QBs with the ability to see the field is a God given talent, not something that can be taught. They are born with or without that ability. Unfortunately, he does not have that. I realize he is a talented athlete, but not a good fit as a QB at an elite SEC team. He could possibly be a good fit as a full back or tight end, I'm not sure. With that said, I have never said anything negative about his character and never will. There is an abundance of athletes with good characters, but that that doesn't mean they are all a good fit as a QB.

 

[countrytider]

Also lost is the fact that it was a stupid play to begin with. 99.9% of WRs in college football wouldn’t have made that catch, and the blown call would have ended up a moot point anyway. It was a great catch, not a great throw and was a microcosm of everything that’s wrong with him. A simple three-yard completion was all that was needed and would have been a higher percentage play— for most people at least.

Lank is brain-dead when it comes football IQ.

 

[Crimson Speed]

There certainly are times you need to lean on the QB to do exceptional things. Tua in the second half against Georgia in the championship game comes to mind. Heck, even Vanderbilt this year. I get the idea sometimes you have to turn to your QB and go do something special, you can't always just say we're going to control this game on the ground, or we're going to take the QB out of the equation.

But... I think you and I agree on parts of the problem but not necessarily on who to blame. I think Milroe is basically a symptom. You said earlier Bryce willed Alabama to victory in some games, but I see it as a chicken and the egg type situation. Did Alabama need Bryce's heroics because they were the only way to win, or because once they became overly reliant on QB play it became the only way to win?

The end result of where we are now though is something that basically an issue we can agree on. My mentality though is that the coaches should have been making him hand the ball off more, forcing his hand more and then if he refuses he deserves to sit. If they aren't doing that though, if they have not presented him with such an ultimatum then ultimately it becomes their failure as well.

Well said. There are numerous factors that have led to field failures, play selection, offensive line weakness on the outside, and a QB trying to hog the ball. Not to mention our weakness to stop the run on defense. Perhaps you can have success with one of these weaknesses, but not when they become numerous.

 

[The Ols]

Lank is brain-dead when it comes football IQ.

LANK is a brand, a cooperative…not an individual.

 

[countrytider]

LANK is a brand, a cooperative…not an individual.

I’m referring to its leader. He’s an individual.

 

[Crimson Speed]

Yes, but they also had 5100 yards passing which opened up the run. I don’t see first year starter Simpson throwing for that kind of yardage . His philosophy is not balanced, it is a throw heavy attack.

I understand what you are saying. However, when your QB is having a terrible night and we are soundly being beaten, it seem logical to try something different in an effort to save the game. Ty should have been given a chance. The chance might have failed. We will never know. But continuing with no change hasn't worked in three games thus far. I agree that Ty is a throw heavy QB, but the last time I checked, we have running backs to handle that part of the game.

 

[bamadwain]

If Milroe doesn't go pro he will be back and starting here's why, the university and Milroe have a million dollar deal on this stupid lank stuff so he will be playing if comes back, it's all about the Benjamin's and if anyone thinks that the University is not looking at that then you haven't been paying attention

 

[countrytider]

If Milroe doesn't go pro he will be back and starting here's why, the university and Milroe have a million dollar deal on this stupid lank stuff so he will be playing if comes back, it's all about the Benjamin's and if anyone thinks that the University is not looking at that then you haven't been paying attention

I hope JessN is right that he’s gone for sure…..but how does he know???

 

[Crimson Speed]

If Milroe doesn't go pro he will be back and starting here's why, the university and Milroe have a million dollar deal on this stupid lank stuff so he will be playing if comes back, it's all about the Benjamin's and if anyone thinks that the University is not looking at that then you haven't been paying attention

Well, it is an uncomfortable situation that the university is in. But, the financial support of the football program heavily depends on donations from fans that enjoy winning football. Another year like this one could start impacting game attendance and other financial contributions. At some point, some difficult decisions have to be made. It could come to that, and it could quickly happen.

 

[BamaInBham]

Fun fact; no other Alabama coach has beaten Auburn in Bryant-Denny than Nick Saban.

And a very misleading fact.

 

[RammerJammer14]

And a very misleading fact.

Yeah I had to lol at that. To reword it, might as well have said, “While Nick Saban coached Alabama, no other Alabama coach has beaten Auburn in Bryant Denny.” We played what, maybe 4 games in Tuscaloosa before that? Might as well tell me that no one has celebrated Christmas since last year.

 

[AUDub]

And a very misleading fact.

It wasn’t exactly a serious post lol