Bama Game Thread: Official PostGame Thread - Bama vs. IU...

[cthorne22]

Eight losses in two years:

2024 Vandy, Tennessee, Oklahoma and Michigan
2025 FSU, Oklahoma, UGA, Indiana

It’s not just the losses. It is HOW we lost them. In 2024 in each of those games we looked unprepared. In 2025 with FSU, UGA (SECCG) and Indiana, we didn’t just lose. We were EMBARRASSED.

Exactly

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

With all due respect, it was most definitely NOT a good season. Maybe for Ole Miss or Auburn or Vandy, but not for Alabama. 3 utterly humiliating losses in one season and a quarterfinal CFP loss do not equal good in my book.

And scary thing it was very close to being much worse (SC, Mizzou, even Vandy could have been losses with just a couple breaks going the other way).

Could.......woulda...................shoulds................but didn't.
Season was better than last season. Made the playoffs.
There are a lot of things that need to be addressed, for sure, but for all of y'all who want to pull the plug right now........Who you gonna hire to do better?

 

[SMOKIESBAMAFAN]

It’s one thing to lose. It’s another to look completely unprepared. Bama has looked unprepared several times this year. In my opinion, that’s why I think CKDB may not be the guy. Thoughts?

 

[gtgilbert]

Well Roberts if you believe some of his family members that him and Grubb got into it. It’s been public on twitter.

I don't do twitter, but if I were him, I'd probably have been all over coach if I wasn't playing. Again, IMHO, he was the best IOL by far, and to not be starting is just ridiculous and that in and of itself is another indictment against Grubb.

What are the cliff notes about what they got into it about.

 

[guntertidefan]

I like Coach Deboer. I feel like he reflects well on the University. I don't like his finesse type of football. We are not a physical team and I'm afraid we will never be under Coach Deboer. The thing that scares me is we will win a lot of games, never be dominate, and we will get physically dominated in big games. I don't know if a coach who has always coached one way (finesse) can suddenly become a physical coach. Is it reasonable or even sane to expect that? I don't think so. That means we are in for a bumpy ride people

 

[davefrat]

I’m an old fart but I don’t get turning the game off when we’re losing.

Falling asleep?

That’s another story.

 

[AlexanderFan]

So all this pomp and circumstance of the last 5 years and the most saban like clone from the Saban coaching tree takes a bunch of 3 stars, develops them into 5 stars, drills them like marines, gets them to play with 100% intensity, every play, but without any emotion, Like a machine, or like Alabama when cignitti was at Alabama. They don't do anything cute, they run the ball down your throat and make you eat it. And they might just win it all doing something from 20 years in the past.

At this point numerous teams gave Indiana better resistance than we did today so our reputation is pretty much trash. So next season when we get our 2nd loss just understand that absent winning the SEC title we aren't going to any more playoffs. The veil has been torn asunder. Nobody will forget this beating.

DeBoer has improved some from year 1 to 2 and that's good but we are no where near a championship level program. To do that we are going to need changes in the staff, We are going to have to get tougher players, or MAKE them tougher, we are going to have to find the kind of player that cares more about being dominant than being rich. and we are going to absolutely going to have to learn to run the ball or just lose every game until we find out how. There is no use getting to this point and getting steamrolled by the better teams who will NEVER lose to a team that's one dimensional.

Cignetti brought redshirt seniors and a select few other transfers.

The talent on that team is not homegrown.

 

[OconeeTide]

We dinked and dunked teams in the beginning...Ty had a high completion rate...with the occasional deeper throw...something changed and those routes went away and Ty got hammered...if it ain't broke don't fix it....Grubb's ego may be the problem...the Seattle guys saw it and fired him

Yeah, and look where Seattle is now.
13-3 with a inside shot at the #1 seed. Sam Darnold playing at an elite level.
Grubb is a problem.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I’m an old fart but I don’t get turning the game off when we’re losing.

Falling asleep?

That’s another story.

It is not like I turned it off in the 1st quarter. 31-3 was my breaking point. The team had quit so did I.

 

[TopBamaBloke]

Disappointed, but most of all, I really hate the CFP. This Bama team (as well as other teams that got in) didn’t belong in the NC race after the regular season. One bowl game is enough for those type of teams!

 

[KrAzY3]

This isn't about any philosophy, its about who someone is at their core. Teams take on the character and characteristics of their leader and DeBoer is simply not a coach that demands perfection. Coaches like Saban (and Cignetti) are, they are tough and highly demanding at it their core and reflects throughout their scheme and players.

Cignetti could run DeBoers scheme and beat us by the same score as he did today. Offensice philosophy isn't the problem.

We've gone back and forth on how we view things.

I think the one consistent thing is you think there's a temperament issue, and I think there's a philosophical issue in terms of how they approach the run game.

I concede your point in a very general basis, and furthermore I think that's probably part of the issue with the run game. But I still do hold out hope that if they bring in a few different coaches (so far it's mainly been guys DeBoer previously worked with) may be we can see enough of a shift to compensate.

This is a team that's going to have explosive offensive capability, but the question is can it be more than that one note? I feel like if they can kind of develop a taste for blood and start to enjoy beating the crap out of other teams, that can solve some of the problem.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

I'm as big of a backer of Kalen as there is BUT I have reached my boiling point. To me, Kalen is now coaching for his job. This might be, is the worst I've felt about Bama.

I think that at this point CKD is definitely starting to coach for his job. We'll see if he has the stomach to make the needed changes in order to keep it. But you can't fire him right now.

 

[bamaga]

DeBoer also spanked Sarkisian in 23 who spanked us at home physically. So if you want to bring up the Michigan game let’s be fair and not cherry pick.

Also DeBoer lost 40 players to the portal before coaching a down at Alabama so let’s stop acting like Saban left a wealth of talent and experience.

DeBoer does NEED to develop a physical line on both sides of the ball and needs depth. But we haven’t had one since 2020. We have totally whiffed on them in both Saban and DeBoer’s years since 2020. Bryce covered up the deficiencies for two years and Milroe was our running game two years running. Our offensive line deficiencies are nothing new. They are just far more obvious.


How do we fix it… A new OLine coach is probably a start. Also instead of spending on receivers and backs we probably need to focus on 3 good DL and 2-3 good o linemen in the portal. Also someone needs to get Grubb under control because he has yet to call a truly stellar game offensively.

IDK but again I’m reminded that the team that just big boyed us was big boyed last year by Ohio State and Notre Dame. So a fix isn’t out of the realm of possibilities.

Give it a rest. This team has 14 5* kids on the roster, more than any other team, last years team had 17. That’s plenty of talent. And BTW, it was Deboer’s job to retain talent after Nick retired.

 

[sanjosecrimson]

Getting rid of him now isn’t an option. Byrne needs to tell him to be in his office tomorrow morning at 0500 and find out why the team was so poorly prepared and which assistant coaches are going to be replaced. If the correct answers aren’t given, DeBoer put on notice that he’s coaching for his job next season and no contract extension is going to be offered at this time.
We lost two games in a row where our players slipped down for a quarter because they didn’t have the right shoes when our opponents did, and that is a huge red flag to have that problem two games in a row. No good coach would allow that to happen the second time. He was also made aware that the quiet sideline demeanor wasn’t working when he got embarrassed by FSU. He corrected it for a few games, but by the time Oklahoma beat us again it had again become a problem. A head coach shouldn’t have to be constantly reminded of habits and behaviors that led to losses, yet he obviously does. I doubt he’s been on a hot seat before, but he hopefully gets a double dose of what it feels like starting tomorrow. I didn’t catch the post game interview, but if it was the normal one he gives, Byrne should have marched him back to the podium to rub his nose in it after this debacle and make him take full responsibility, including the idiotic fourth down attempt that started the unraveling.

you mean you didn't like him beating the goal post repeatedly when the team came out of the tunnel during the Tennessee game???

 

[bamamc1]

I don't do twitter, but if I were him, I'd probably have been all over coach if I wasn't playing. Again, IMHO, he was the best IOL by far, and to not be starting is just ridiculous and that in and of itself is another indictment against Grubb.

What are the cliff notes about what they got into it about.

Didn’t you know that we have posters here with “sources” that can’t reveal them? Hell, that includes insider info from “sources” from other programs?

 

[BamaFan6462]

you mean you didn't like him beating the goal post repeatedly when the team came out of the tunnel during the Tennessee game???

It wasn’t a problem in the Tennessee game. It was a problem against OU, again against UGA and tonight.

 

[BamaHoopsBoi]

Well, that hurt my feelings.

 

[BamaFossil]

We got beat by a better team. It happens.

I don't get the folks calling for CKD's replacement. I'm hoping that's over-the-top frustration brought about by our being accustomed to being the bully rather than being bullied. CKD is a very good coach! We simply ran into a much better team.

Frequent swapping of coaches will put us in the same category as Auburn. No one takes the job unless they have a huge buyout.

That being said, I hope CKD puts some real effort into recruiting OL and DL personnel.

 

[BamaNation]

It has been said repeatedly, but today should be clear proof that you need a balanced offense attack with a meaningful running game. The inability to run prevents you from controlling tempo, getting first downs, wearing down the opponent, setting up the pass, keeping your own D rested and much more. We have no running game. So everything else puts stress on the QB and WR to produce each and every time.

So frustrating to watch and know we have to also play a less than healthy Simpson for weeks because we dont have a solid alternative.

 

[sanjosecrimson]

We dinked and dunked teams in the beginning...Ty had a high completion rate...with the occasional deeper throw...something changed and those routes went away and Ty got hammered...if it ain't broke don't fix it....Grubb's ego may be the problem...the Seattle guys saw it and fired him

they're 13-3 and going to the Playoffs after firing the bum.
Seattle fans warned us about his "offense". DeBoer fate will be determine how much longer he's willing to hitch his wagon with Grubb.