Game Thread: OFFICIAL POSTSEASON THREAD - Bama v. The World 2018-2019...

[TIDE-HSV]

That right there is funny, I don't care who you are.

The selection committee probably agrees with you...

 

[Crimson1967]

On the NCAA selection show they said we were one of the last four out, so that’s how we got a top seed.


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[TIDE-HSV]

On the NCAA selection show they said we were one of the last four out, so that’s how we got a top seed.


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I believe it's over...

 

[BamaMoon]

I believe it's over...

For CAJ???

 

[JDCrimson]

Finding a site should not be an issue. Just on the other side of the RR tracks behind the law school is a shopping center UA already owns. There are only metal type buildings there so tear down costs would be minimal and this would give you plenty of space. It would make the arena more accessible for fans as well since it would exit right onto 15th street. The issue is not the really cost . It is commitment to basketball. Again, i say if you can spend 40 million on baseball, you out to be able to spend 200 million of a sport that actually will generate enough revenue to make it at worst come close to break even. You will not lose 2 years revenue from home games and you can have other events that will generate income. Coleman could become a home to hockey and generate revenue from that sport as well.

If you are a donor, would you contribute to yet another renovation of a 50 year old building or would you donate to a new building? It is hard to generate excitement about tearing out old concrete and putting in new concrete in an existing building which is basically what the plan is. Where are we going to be in 25 years when Coleman is 75 years old and in need of even more work? If we want to truly compete, start over. Don't try to make an outdated building new again.

If UA wanted to have a multi-purpose facility they would have already used Coleman this way. They stopped doing this decades ago for some good and not good reasons. So that won’t be an option if the new arena is owned solely by UA. They obviously want to keep all their athletic venues in the present quadrant of campus. Otherwise they would have moved baseball elsewhere maybe by softball. A new arena would have fit well where baseball sits currently.

We also assume that $200 million can be raised for basketball by folks who can’t get a tax deduction for their contribution any longer. I can assure you this has had a major impact on giving especially on non-football sports. It’s easy to talk about sky’s the limit upgrades in facilities and coaching staffs when you are spending other people’s money. The quickest ROI is still investing in coaching, players, and marketing.

My concern is even with a new arena we won’t get our students and local fans engaged in attending games. TV has hurt basketball attendance probably worse than football because there is no tailgating experience to miss and a lot of week night games.


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[TIDE-HSV]

For CAJ???

Yes. I just logged on. Looks like it's public now...

 

[deliveryman35]

Not happening. The plan is to gut Coleman for renovation.

Didn’t we go through this about 15 years ago? I said it then, and I’ll say it now—you can put lipstick on a pig, but... you know the rest. Coleman is a 50 year old, antiquated facility. For the life of me, I do not understand the reluctance of the BOT to totally replace it, given the current needs and where we are right now in the Saban tenure. It’s not like we don’t have the money.

I don’t expect to have something akin to Allen Field House, Rupp Arena, or the Dean Dome, but I do expect us to have the second best, modern facility in the SEC and on par with what schools like Oklahoma and Michigan have.

 

[Rama Jama]

If UA wanted to have a multi-purpose facility they would have already used Coleman this way. They stopped doing this decades ago for some good and not good reasons. So that won’t be an option if the new arena is owned solely by UA. They obviously want to keep all their athletic venues in the present quadrant of campus. Otherwise they would have moved baseball elsewhere maybe by softball. A new arena would have fit well where baseball sits currently.

We also assume that $200 million can be raised for basketball by folks who can’t get a tax deduction for their contribution any longer. I can assure you this has had a major impact on giving especially on non-football sports. It’s easy to talk about sky’s the limit upgrades in facilities and coaching staffs when you are spending other people’s money. The quickest ROI is still investing in coaching, players, and marketing.

My concern is even with a new arena we won’t get our students and local fans engaged in attending games. TV has hurt basketball attendance probably worse than football because there is no tailgating experience to miss and a lot of week night games.


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Coleman had asbestos in the ceiling until a few years ago when they finally removed it. That is why they didn't use it for concerts and other events. The locations I spoke about off of 15th street are in the process now of having a road built thru there so it will literally be on campus and UA already owns the land so there will be no cost to purchase new property.

Fund raising while important does not have to pay for the entire cost of the building for it to make sense. Bonds issues and revenue from games and events should make it economically feasible. Auburn put a few classrooms in their arena so they could do it on the educational side rather than from athletic funds. Renovating Coleman will cost less in the short term, but think about what happens when Coleman is 75 or 80 years old. Does UA want to continue to pour money into a building that old?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Coleman had asbestos in the ceiling until a few years ago when they finally removed it. That is why they didn't use it for concerts and other events. The locations I spoke about off of 15th street are in the process now of having a road built thru there so it will literally be on campus and UA already owns the land so there will be no cost to purchase new property.

Fund raising while important does not have to pay for the entire cost of the building for it to make sense. Bonds issues and revenue from games and events should make it economically feasible. Auburn put a few classrooms in their arena so they could do it on the educational side rather than from athletic funds. Renovating Coleman will cost less in the short term, but think about what happens when Coleman is 75 or 80 years old. Does UA want to continue to pour money into a building that old?

It'll end up being like Woods Hall...

 

[Go Bama]

Coleman has been the ugliest building on campus since it was built.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Coleman has been the ugliest building on campus since it was built.

They broke ground in 1965 for the original building. That is one old building.

 

[CrimsonEyeshade]

They broke ground in 1965 for the original building. That is one old building.

I played on it during the high school state basketball tournament in '71. The synthetic floor was scuffed up and hard as a rock. The shooting optics and lighting were awful. Back then, Coleman was big and it was new, and that was about it.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I played on it during the high school state basketball tournament in '71. The synthetic floor was scuffed up and hard as a rock. The shooting optics and lighting were awful. Back then, Coleman was big and it was new, and that was about it.

It looks like it was designed in the 60's. It just has that look. Without googling it I would guess it had renovations in the 80's and probably early 00's. Again just has that look.

 

[cuda.1973]

You are the guy who would know!

(At least it doesn't have that cookie cutter box cube look, like every apartment building constructed recently. UGG-LEE!)

 

[DzynKingRTR]

You are the guy who would know!

(At least it doesn't have that cookie cutter box cube look, like every apartment building constructed recently. UGG-LEE!)

We call those types of buildings cyborgs.

 

[NationalTitles18]

It looks like it was designed in the 60's. It just has that look. Without googling it I would guess it had renovations in the 80's and probably early 00's. Again just has that look.

What's wrong with that?

 

[cuda.1973]

That's not the 60s...........................that's the 70s..................oy vey.

 

[NationalTitles18]

That's not the 60s...........................that's the 70s..................oy vey.

First season was 1969. Ha!

 

[cuda.1973]

This is the 60s........................

(Guess who still has her pair..................or so she claims........................)

 

[cuda.1973]

First season was 1969. Ha!

Well, since I have no idea what TV show that was....................ha!, back at ya.

(I was in undergrad school, and didn't have a TV, so there! Still looks like the 70s. Says the guy with a '73 hot rod.)