JessN: Ohio State Game Preview: The 'Bama of the Upper Midwest' tries to unseat its muse once again

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For me, it feels like a shot at those certain (but not all) Buckeyes fans who refer to their beloved university as "THE" Ohio State.
JessN has probably done his research and knows where that came from. It has nothing to do with any out of state school.
 

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JessN has probably done his research and knows where that came from. It has nothing to do with any out of state school.
I left out a part of the story, there are a few Ohio State fans in my neighborhood. Boisterous and obnoxious of the Auburn kind. (Not bad people just can't talk football with them because to them, there' OSU and there's everybody else. And if you can't something nice about OSU that insult the heck out of your favorite team.) They go on and on about being fans of "THE" Ohio State but what gets under their skin is being call "The Safety School of Ohio", or "Bama of the Upper Midwest", etc and it drives them crazy. Sorry, I should have mentioned this earlier.
 
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No way OSU scores in the thirties. And we should hit the fifties.
I am definitely happier that we are playing OSU instead of Clemson. The latter almost always seems to get "up" for us, but there is no reason for the OSU players to have that same feeling.
 

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I left out a part of the story, there are a few Ohio State fans in my neighborhood. Boisterous and obnoxious of the Auburn kind. (Not bad people just can't talk football with them because to them, there' OSU and there's everybody else. And if you can't something nice about OSU that insult the heck out of your favorite team.) They go on and on about being fans of "THE" Ohio State but what gets under their skin is being call "The Safety School of Ohio", or "Bama of the Upper Midwest", etc and it drives them crazy. Sorry, I should have mentioned this earlier.
Many, if not most OSU fans (as I do) , think "The" is pompous. Some use the "The" to get under the skin of others. The really funny thing is that the "The" is the official name of OSU as filed in the founding corporate documents.
 
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No offense, but it doesn't appear you put much, if any, research into Ohio State with this preview. Just under the Quarterbacks section there are countless errors:

1. You stated Jack Miller or Gunnar Hoak were the backup QB's for OSU. However, the actual backup QB is CJ Stroud (not even mentioned) with Miller serving as the #3 and Hoak the #4. This should not have been difficult to figure out given Stroud came in for the one snap Fields missed during the Clemson game.

2. This line is just a disaster: "Miller took those snaps last week, but tested positive for Covid-19 this week and is listed as doubtful". First, as stated above Miller did not take the backup QB snaps last week. Second, he never tested positive for Covid. The only thing I can think of is that you mixed up Ohio State's starting guard, Harry Miller, who missed the Clemson game due to Covid with third-string QB Jack Miller.

You may very well know a ton about Alabama football, but it's pretty clear from just one position section that you don't have the first clue about Ohio State football. That kind of puts the entire preview into question considering you can't even accurately state who their backup QB is. I would expect a bit better from a well-known writer on this site.
 

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Usually it’s me and a few others beating up Jess’s takes on doubting our high powered offense and stable of Running backs. But goodness, someone is beating him up on backup quarterbacks. Lol
And when no QB other than Fields has thrown a pass all year, he showed how idiotic his response was.

If the Bucks lose our starting QB, we are done. If both teams lose their starting QBs, Alabama has a huge advantage with Young.
 

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And when no QB other than Fields has thrown a pass all year, he showed how idiotic his response was.

If the Bucks lose our starting QB, we are done. If both teams lose their starting QBs, Alabama has a huge advantage with Young.
If someone did not know something as basic as the fact that Bryce Young was the backup QB for Alabama would you listen to anything they had to say in regards to Alabama football?
 

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If someone did not know something as basic as the fact that Bryce Young was the backup QB for Alabama would you listen to anything they had to say in regards to Alabama football?
Did you read the thing or are you just on a rant? And I am an OSU alumnus and proud Buckeye fan.
 
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Did you read the thing or are you just on a rant? And I am an OSU alumnus and proud Buckeye fan.
As I stated above I read through the Quarterbacks section. Once I saw the massive glaring mistakes by the writer in that section it became obvious that reading on was not necessary as he had shown he really had no idea what he was talking about when it came to Ohio State. I would assume Alabama fans would not read a game preview by a Buckeye writer that doesn't even know Bryce Young is their backup QB, nor should they.

Since you're an OSU alumnus and proud Buckeye fan why did you not correct the writer on his massive mistakes when you were posting earlier in this thread? I mean the writer literally mixed up a starting guard with a third-string (who he thought was second-string) QB.
 

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As I stated above I read through the Quarterbacks section. Once I saw the massive glaring mistakes by the writer in that section it became obvious that reading on was not necessary as he had shown he really had no idea what he was talking about when it came to Ohio State. I would assume Alabama fans would not read a game preview by a Buckeye writer that doesn't even know Bryce Young is their backup QB, nor should they.

Since you're an OSU alumnus and proud Buckeye fan why did you not correct the writer on his massive mistakes when you were posting earlier in this thread? I mean the writer literally mixed up a starting guard with a third-string (who he thought was second-string) QB.
Probably because it’s a minor and a mostly irrelevant data point.
 

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Since you're an OSU alumnus and proud Buckeye fan why did you not correct the writer on his massive mistakes when you were posting earlier in this thread? I mean the writer literally mixed up a starting guard with a third-string (who he thought was second-string) QB.
Because what you consider to be a huge mistake I consider to be an innocent mistake that anyone who does not actually watch OSU games would make. Miller/Miller. Stroud never threw a pass - not one. He is not the back-up QB. He is a guy who came in for some snaps to keep him happy as a true freshman by removing his black stripe. What person who is not a Buckeye fan would know that, even with research?
 
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Because what you consider to be a huge mistake I consider to be an innocent mistake that anyone who does not actually watch OSU games would make. Miller/Miller. Stroud never threw a pass - not one. He is not the back-up QB. He is a guy who came in for some snaps to keep him happy as a true freshman by removing his black stripe. What person who is not a Buckeye fan would know that, even with research?
Sure, it likely won't matter in the grand scheme of the game that CJ Stroud is Ohio State's backup QB because no QB other than Fields will likely see the field. The point is that you can find out that information in 30 seconds by using Google. The writer literally didn't bother to do the bare minimum of research on that topic which would lead you to believe he did not bother to do any research on Ohio State for this article.

You also stated in your post that CJ Stroud is not the backup QB. Please enlighten us on who Ohio State's backup QB is than?
 
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We do not have one this year. Casualty of a very short season.
If Fields goes out for some reason than they bring in no one because there is no backup? The last three times a quarterback has come in to replace Fields (one snap against Clemson and after the Michigan State and Rutgers games were out-of-hand) it has been Stroud coming in first off the bench. If the second QB in is not the backup QB I'm not really sure what you would call him.

Again while it is not super important, given Fields bruised ribs, you would have thought the writer would have taken the 30 seconds to actually find out who OSU's backup QB was just in case Fields is injured again. It may have also been pertinent information to pass along that Stroud's only significant play this season was a 48 yard touchdown run. That may help Alabama fans understand that if Stroud is forced into action he is likely a more significant threat on the ground as opposed to through the air.
 

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If Fields goes out for some reason than they bring in no one because there is no backup? The last three times a quarterback has come in to replace Fields (one snap against Clemson and after the Michigan State and Rutgers games were out-of-hand) it has been Stroud coming in first off the bench. If the second QB in is not the backup QB I'm not really sure what you would call him.

Again while it is not super important, given Fields bruised ribs, you would have thought the writer would have taken the 30 seconds to actually find out who OSU's backup QB was just in case Fields is injured again. It may have also been pertinent information to pass along that Stroud's only significant play this season was a 48 yard touchdown run. That may help Alabama fans understand that if Stroud is forced into action he is likely a more significant threat on the ground as opposed to through the air.
Oh, we will put someone in there, but they are not a back-up QB in the sense that they are even remotely prepared to run the offense.

Also funny that Stroud ran that TD. He was not a runner in HS and came to the Bucks as a pre-set QB, not a runner like Fields.
 

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Oh, we will put someone in there, but they are not a back-up QB in the sense that they are even remotely prepared to run the offense.
Well I think we can both agree that if either Fields or Jones go out early in the game (for the remainder of the game) it would essentially take a miracle for that team to win the game. Those guys are simply too important to what their offenses want to do and are both backed up by true freshmen that have never taken a snap in a significant moment on the collegiate level ever. (Stroud did take a snap in a significant moment against Clemson, but considering he just handed it off I'm not counting that.)
 
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Well I think we can both agree that if either Fields or Jones go out early in the game (for the remainder of the game) it would essentially take a miracle for that team to win the game. Those guys are simply too important to what their offenses want to do and are both backed up by true freshmen that have never taken a snap in a significant moment on the collegiate level ever. (Stroud did take a snap in a significant moment against Clemson, but considering he just handed it off I'm not counting that.)
Agreed - it has been a long time since either of these teams has been so unprepared at QB past their starters. Both have great young guys to take over next year, but neither was developed this year.
 

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Well I think we can both agree that if either Fields or Jones go out early in the game (for the remainder of the game) it would essentially take a miracle for that team to win the game. Those guys are simply too important to what their offenses want to do and are both backed up by true freshmen that have never taken a snap in a significant moment on the collegiate level ever. (Stroud did take a snap in a significant moment against Clemson, but considering he just handed it off I'm not counting that.)
I can appreciate an opposing view and especially understand when there is an error. I think the overarching point is that he has always looked at the units as a whole. You’re agreeing with his point that if a starter goes out it will be profound, but it will likely be more profound for the Bucks because Bryce has gotten real playing time. He’s not Mac but he’s not a total unknown either.
 

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