JessN: Oklahoma Wrap-up: Redemption tour ends as Tide can't execute under pressure

[tusks_n_raider]

200 yards is 200 yards. If you’re worried about complimentary football how about not fumbling a punt? How about the blocking not allowing a free rusher to lay the wood and cause a fumble?

I was ready to fire Womack last year and parts of this year, but the defensive side of the ball is actually improving as the year goes along.

Pick six plus the short field touchdown and I think Alabama wins and covers.

Same boat for me.

I thought the guy was a fraud after FSU.

But to his credit and the players credit they have been steadily getting better game to game.

Our Angles taken and tackling has been much better the last couple games especially.

I’m pretty shocked by it and they deserve credit for improving.

They kept us alive yesterday.

 

[denver]

Blaming Ty for the fumble when our OL got no block and he was blindsided is a different kind of lazy...the OU DE hit the ball directly as he is about to throw...it just happens....it would have been nice for our DL to make such a play but we didn't get to Mateer enough. Whether Simpson has dropped off or not is debatable but he certainly isn't getting help from Grubb with the calls or the OL with time. If not for his performances during this 8 game stretch we would be at 3 or more losses...how soon we forget. This loss is on NOT so special teams...putting Williams at punt return was particularly suicidal...short punting and the obvious INT/fumble. OU is now officially a voodoo team. We can still make the playoffs, 10-2 gets us there but this team is not a NC contender but its a step forward from last year and that is progress.

 

[arthurdawg]

200 yards is 200 yards. If you’re worried about complimentary football how about not fumbling a punt? How about the blocking not allowing a free rusher to lay the wood and cause a fumble?

I was ready to fire Womack last year and parts of this year, but the defensive side of the ball is actually improving as the year goes along.

Pick six plus the short field touchdown and I think Alabama wins and covers.

Yes! I’ve seen several fuss about the defense. They gave up —

200 yards

Okie had long drives of 31 and 41 yards

20 of the 23 points were made easy by turnovers and special teams gaffes

Getting turnovers depends on luck to some degree, and if the other team is sloppy with the ball. You can’t just dial up 2+ turnovers.

Can’t blame this on the D.

And last week we had people criticizing them for a 233 yard and 9 point performance by LSU. I mean…. Last two weeks were Saban D numbers! There are things to do to tighten up and be better, but this has developed into a darned good unit despite the lack of a dominant stud on the DL, although Pierre is making some noise at his spot.

 

[Con]

Since you are talking about the defense I think #5 in the defensive backfield is going to be pretty good. I am not sold on #1 or #2 though. They kind of have moments of looking soft. They just don’t have consistency with their tackling.

 

[SeventhHeavenRanch7777@gm]

I honestly feel like we should get use to a 9-3 team under DeBoar. I love my team but im not sold on this staff

 

[CaliforniaTide]

1) Ty made some uncharacteristic mistakes yesterday, some of which due to his internal clock speeding up from the pressures the Oline was receiving the entire game. On the sack-fumble play, he should've known the RT was going to be on an island, and move up in the pocket. I still don't know if he or the WR was at fault for the pick-six.

2) At one point in the game, the OU defense had matched the Alabama offense in point scoring, and the OU special teams had scored more points than the Alabama offense. Those mistakes on special teams gifted points to the OU, which ended up being insurmountable. Also, Talty didn't win himself any favors in going after the LS for the high snap. The holder still managed to get it down for Talty to kick it, and his foot placement on the ball was not great. This doesn't even include the OU guy getting a hand on it. As for the him jumping over the line, the rule does not allow players to get a running start to jump over the line and block. It does allow for a player to jump over from a set position. Did he get on someone's back to do it? I don't know.

3) The defense played as well as they could, even when placed in untenable field positions and limiting OU to FGs. If Jefferson had held onto the pass he tried to intercept, that's points off the board for OU. The defense has been giving the offense chance after chance against LSU and OU to get points, and the effort has not been totally rewarded.

4) Maybe Grubb can build on Daniel Hall running the ball. Granted the bar was low, but he had the most successful runs Alabama has had all season. Jam Miller has the size to run inside, but he appears to dance too much (partially maybe due to the Oline), and doesn't seem to run low either.

Alabama still has control of its destiny, but it definitely lost any margin for error with the OU loss. Some of the stats from yesterday show that Alabama outplayed OU by the end of the game - except on the scoreboard. Since it felt its backs were against the wall after losing to FSU, maybe this is another wake-up call, a la OSU losing to Michigan last season.

 

[Scobaman]

Blaming Ty for the fumble when our OL got no block and he was blindsided is a different kind of lazy...the OU DE hit the ball directly as he is about to throw...it just happens....it would have been nice for our DL to make such a play but we didn't get to Mateer enough. Whether Simpson has dropped off or not is debatable but he certainly isn't getting help from Grubb with the calls or the OL with time. If not for his performances during this 8 game stretch we would be at 3 or more losses...how soon we forget. This loss is on NOT so special teams...putting Williams at punt return was particularly suicidal...short punting and the obvious INT/fumble. OU is now officially a voodoo team. We can still make the playoffs, 10-2 gets us there but this team is not a NC contender but its a step forward from last year and that is progress.

Agreed about putting Williams at punt return. I had been very pleased with the way our punt returner had taken care of the ball this year. Had Cole Adams been in the game to receive the punt, it is almost certain that there would have been no fumble, giving the Bama offense another drive and taking points away from the Okie total. Game over in favor of the good guys.

 

[JessN]

When did Ty hurt his back or side as you suggested?

It will be very disappointing if we lose to Auburn. It’s going to be a long 2 weeks.

Missouri game where he ran into Proctor while trying to move up in the pocket. Wasn't a dirty play at all -- UM player really had nothing to do with it. I remember when it happened that I have fallen that way before and wrenched my back bad enough to have to go visit a doctor for it. Apparently it has been either really slow to heal, or has been prone to reinjury, or both.

 

[bamadwain]

Agreed about putting Williams at punt return. I had been very pleased with the way our punt returner had taken care of the ball this year. Had Cole Adams been in the game to receive the punt, it is almost certain that there would have been no fumble, giving the Bama offense another drive and taking points away from the Okie total. Game over in favor of the good guys.

Cole was in the game, we had two returner in each time till the fumble happened