Ole Miss 2009 class has 37 signees!

Bamaball2001

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Those little secondary violations are nothing but they do have some major infractions that may surface soon.
Ole Miss wishes these were the only violations that they will have to answer for. The truth shall set you free.
I have been hearing some whispers that there may be trouble coming to ole Miss sometime soon.
From what I have been reading this a.m. there are a lot of people, at many other schools, talking about possible major problems regarding Ole Miss violations so this will definitely come to the surface soon. Did they or didn't they? We shall soon see.

:BigA: RTR!
 

Lassr4Bama

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on that same page that is linked the editor states this:
To remain in compliance with NCAA rules, Ole Miss could not allow Rivals.com to use the names of the student-athletes the Rebels were recruiting in this story. Also in accordance with NCAA recruiting compliance, Ole Miss coaches could not allow Rivals.com to be with the coaches when they made the home visits that were a part of this story.
like everyone said these are minor, I'm waiting to see what the biggies are.
 

pc2bama

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The violations are going to be found. Many already are well known. The question is whether anything will be done about it. Anybody holding their breath for a punishment like Bama got better go ahead and exhale. The NCAA no longer has the stones it once did, and now schools know that if they show even the faintest semblence of a backbone the NCAA will back down.
 

crains

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:BigA: Thanks Airborne Tider for clearing that up! It still looks a little suspicious but I am going to clam up on this subject until something else comes out!
 

ncbama

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I suggest we not visist this subject. If violations are there, they will be uncovered in due time. I am concerned that this message board will begin to look like the aubie board.

No amount of finger pointing will ever erase the memory of our descent into the hell of NCAA probation. If finger pointing cattharsis affords some degree of relief to some of us, then I suppose it will be worth while. I would just like to see us ride above the wave in a manner worthy of our fine institution.
 

BAMAHD

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Do we really need to start acting like auburn fans? If there are major violations they will come out in time, not because a disgruntled fan post something on every website hoping to take down a rival.

auburn says it's three weeks or twenty one days which ever one comes first for us.
 
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The_Crimson1

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I've seen several references to Ole Miss breaking violations in different threads. A lot of people here seem to know what Ole Miss did so how about just coming out and spilling the beans for those of us that don't have a clue what you guys are talking about.
 

BamaFossil

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I truly hope this NCAA stuff re Ole Miss is a bunch of fluff with no substance and quickly passes off the stage.

The way I see it, the NCAA would like nothing better than to have some noise in the SEC to take away the awkward silence regarding their non-actions with U$C and O$U. Hope Ole Miss hasn't given the NCAA the opening they've been looking for.
 

Airborne Tider

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Do we really need to start acting like auburn fans? If there are major violations they will come out in time, not because a disgruntled fan post something on every website hoping to take down a rival.

auburn says it's three weeks or twenty one days which ever one comes first for us.
Auburn can say what they want, they have no facts. This is not the case with Ole Miss.
 

chittlins

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I'm a bit amused. Nutt's retention rate for recruits making it to their Senior Year had to be under 40%. That's why Arkansas never had depth and was a key injury somewhere from faultering. If all these kids do grayshirt, they'll count in years going forward, which means he'll always be running them off(we Arkies know nothing about that:biggrin:) to make room or he'll have tiny classes because he wanted to be good to the Miss Jucos.

On Drummond, here's the Arkie side of this, Bout two weeks ago, it got out that Drummond was decommitting from Illinios becasue he could not get in at semester and he wanted to start this spring. Here's the story on how Nutt got him. He has family in Cotton Plant, a small rural community about 30 to 35 miles east of LR, just north of I-40 and they told him about how they liked Nutt. All of a sudden, Ole Miss is getting a visit, and coincidentally they start a week later than most schools do and most schools have a week after classes start to get registered late. Supposedly he submitted his paperwork the Monday after his visit. Last we heard it was pending, haven't heard whether he's in school or not or if he'll have to wait till fall, but that's how Nutt got him , the premise that he could still get in school this Spring.

There were rumblings that something shady was going on at the end of Darius Winston's decommitment. It didn't involve his Uncle but someone on Ole Miss's side was trying to persude him to come across the river. When DW decommitted I thought it would be trying to get him back from a upper tier school and not down to us and Ole Miss.

Arkansas signed 32 but two counted back to last year and enrolled at the break. two to three will not make it, Hughey and Lowery are two I know of. A couple of the kids are in staters that will silently grayshirt and be picked up later. A 4* will be one of them, I believe. He'll redshirt this year.
 

shaqdaddy

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Just wanted to clear up that I did not write this. A guy named NolanforAD on another message board did. I just wanted to make sure everyone got a good read.

Tom Dienhart, of Rivals.com has written an article called NUTT NEVER SLOWS DOWN ON THE RECRUITING TRAIL, ([URL="http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=905931"][url]http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=905931[/URL][/URL]) in which he unwittingly exposed several recruiting infractions committed by Ole Miss coaches Houston Nutt, Mike Markuson, and Kent Austin. The violations don't need to be pointed out to anyone that even casually follows recruiting, but several posters in other threads have asked for explanations of the violations and some Ole Miss fans have disputed them. To help these people understand, I have identified six of the most obvious violations committed by Ole Miss, followed by the excerpt from the article that proves Ole Miss violated that rule, followed by the rule which was violated:


VIOLATION 1: Markuson and Nutt allow media to be present during a recruiting contact.


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Markuson is on his BlackBerry, talking to an offensive line recruit from Chatham (Va.) Hargrave Military Academy he wants. "Hey, we are going to get you to 'the league,' " Markuson says. "You know that. We are the best school to develop you."
RULE VIOLATED:13.10.1 A member institution shall not permit a media entity to be present during any recruiting contact made by an institution's coaching staff member.





VIOLATION 2: Nutt comments on the likelihood of QB Raymond Cotton (from Baltimore) signing with Ole Miss.


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"It went great," Nutt says. "That kid has a terrific family, the mom, the dad. I think we have a chance to get him... We have some big-time players we still are trying to land. If we get them – like this quarterback we just visited – it will really help us."
"We had to go see him at his job stocking shelves at a 7-Eleven on base. That says a lot about him. How many big-time recruits would even have a job?"
Nutt smiles and shakes his head. He wants this quarterback even more now. But Ole Miss will have to beat Kansas State to get him. "It won't be easy," says Nutt.
RULE VIOLATED: 13.10.2 ...the institution is precluded from commenting in any manner as to the likelihood of the prospective student-athlete's signing with that institution





VIOLATION 3. Nutt comments on the likelihood of signing Tahj Jones, LB from Sulpher, LA.


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Nutt and his staffers would love to add a linebacker from Sulphur High they are going to visit. Dameron has been the point man on this prospect's recruitment.
"This is a good kid," Dameron says. "He doesn't have a mother or father. He lives with his 21-year-old brother, his brother's girlfriend and their baby in a trailer across from the high school. A counselor at the high school has taken him under her wing, really mentoring him and looking out for him. She's a great lady." Nutt frets about the upcoming visit. He knows it'll be difficult to woo this recruit away from LSU. … We wanted to visit this kid today because he's coming to our campus tomorrow for an official visit. We know LSU is pinching him and we think this will ensure that he will visit us. If he does that, we have a chance to get him."
RULE VIOLATED: 13.10.2 ...the institution is precluded from commenting in any manner as to the likelihood of the prospective student-athlete's signing with that institution…





VIOLATION 4: Ole Miss allows media entity to be present during Nutt, Markuson, and Dameron's recruiting visit of Tahj Jones, at Sulpher High in Sulpher, LA.


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Nutt, Dameron and Markuson enter the high school and immediately find the head coach and the counselor, who are expecting the Ole Miss coaches. Next, the recruit is summoned. Soon, everyone is smiling and laughing. Nutt is good at this.
RULE VIOLATED: 13.10.1 A member institution shall not permit a media entity to be present during any recruiting contact made by an institution's coaching staff member






VIOLATION 5: Markuson comments on Evan Swindall's (C, Lafayette High, Georgia, who was actually committed to Central Florida, not Miss) ability and the contribution that he might make to Ole Miss.


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(Nutt)… heads south to LaFayette, Ga., to visit a big offensive lineman who had committed to Ole Miss the previous week.

It takes about an hour to reach the recruit's house. The coaches already have sold this prospect on Ole Miss, so the visit is about showing the recruit some love and attention. He isn't a blue-chipper, but this is the type of lineman Markuson routinely turned into a star during his stint at Arkansas with Nutt.

"He's a coach's son," Markuson says. "His mom is a teacher. He comes from a great family. He's big, strong, smart … just what you want. We think he'll be a good one for us at center. We need linemen. We don't have much depth up front."
RULE VIOLATED: 13.10.2 …The institution may not comment generally about the prospective student-athlete's ability or the contribution that the prospective student-athlete might make to the institution's team






VIOLATION 6: Ole Miss Coach Austin comments on Raymond Cotton's ability and the contribution that he might make to Ole Miss.


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"The kid is pretty quiet," says Austin, a former star Ole Miss quarterback from the 1980s who is the point man on the prospect's recruiting. "The mom is pretty quiet, too. But the dad will talk. He knows his football. His dad is big on trust. He wants to know who he can trust.
"I told him we have a plan for him. The kid and his dad are all for coming in and redshirting. They believe he isn't ready to play right away. So any school that tells him that he will play him right away turns off the father and kid. I have told him we can play him as a redshirt freshman in 'Wildcat' formations, getting him ready for when Snead is gone."
Rule Violated: 13.10.2 …The institution may not comment generally about the prospective student-athlete's ability or the contribution that the prospective student-athlete might make to the institution's team
 

Crimson Surfer

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Coaches play the curious game of oversigning in college football
The fax machine in the Ole Miss football office began spitting out signed National Letters of Intent early in the morning Feb. 4. As the day went on, the fax machine kept humming. By the time Rebels coach Houston Nutt addressed the media on Signing Day, 37 players had inked with Ole Miss. In other words, 37 players had signed a document that promised them a one-year, renewable athletic scholarship provided they met the school's academic requirements and the NCAA's academic and amateurism requirements.

Here's where the math gets sticky. The NCAA allows schools to bring in a maximum of 25 new scholarship football players in an academic year. Furthermore, each school can keep only 85 players on scholarship at any given time. After subtracting departing seniors and walk-ons from the Ole Miss roster, the Rebels could bring back as many as 64 current scholarship players next season, though, since most schools lose between five to 10 players a year through attrition, that isn't likely. So how will Ole Miss accommodate all those players?

It won't.
Ole Miss Commit List for 2009
 

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