I think the call was wrong. If I were coaching I would tell receivers to secure the ball with both arms and not to let go until they handed it to an official or to me.
Ole Miss vs Vandy game last night: When is a TD a real TD?
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While discussing this game, did anyone see the excessive celebration penalty on the Vandy WR on the game winning TD? Was a strange sequence.
The penalty yardage was applied to Ole Miss's possession, so they got it at half the distance. But, OM was flagged for running into the kicker on the PAT. The penalty was declined, though.
Shouldn't the running into the kicker had been applied to the change of possession like the excessive celebration penalty?
The penalty yardage was applied to Ole Miss's possession, so they got it at half the distance. But, OM was flagged for running into the kicker on the PAT. The penalty was declined, though.
Shouldn't the running into the kicker had been applied to the change of possession like the excessive celebration penalty?
The excessive celebration was a dead ball foul, while running into the kicker was not. I believe that is why it played out like that. One was during the play, the other after. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
I thought it was a catch. Once you are in the end zone all you have to do it to have possession of the ball. He had possession standing up and then when he went down he had possession in one hand until it was stripped. No brainer to me
You're right. Was thinking roughing/running into the kicker penalties were still applied to kickoffs for some reason.The excessive celebration was a dead ball foul, while running into the kicker was not. I believe that is why it played out like that. One was during the play, the other after. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Ole miss got hosed. Pi on one and td on the other.
How was that td different than the one Jeudy caught where Danielson thought he had dropped it? Jeudy makes the catch and the defender knocks it out of his hands almost immediately. Ruled a td for us. I want the game called fairly. Those were two bad calls.
How was that td different than the one Jeudy caught where Danielson thought he had dropped it? Jeudy makes the catch and the defender knocks it out of his hands almost immediately. Ruled a td for us. I want the game called fairly. Those were two bad calls.
The first call could have been pass interference. The second call looked right. The receiver has to maintain possession throughout the catch all the way to the ground. The receiver didn't complete the catch.
I think the difference between the Jeudy catch and the Brown catch is that Brown went to the ground and Jeudy didn't. When a receiver goes to the ground during the catch, the refs are saying he has to maintain possession all the way to the ground. Brown was still moving when the ball came out. If he had come to a stop and then the ball came out, I think it would have been ruled a catch.
He had possesion w/ feet on the ground. Once you are in the end zone, the play is dead. Bad call, glad Ole Miss lost, but bad call.
It’s questionable how some of you don’t see that this is a catch. I can’t stand Ole Miss but that was a catch. I don’t know what the commissioner was thinking or talking about. The receiver, who was robbed. Had three points of contact down including his butt. That’s sad.
We all know that it was a catch, but what is less clear is whether or not the rule allows them to take away the catch because he lost control of the ball. It is unclear whether he lost control when his arm hit the ground or when the defensive player hit his arm a fraction later. Either way, it is not necessarily a catch based on the rule. I recall an Alabama game last year in which a defender stripped away a ball that was clearly caught in the end zone. The receiver had the ball and both feet down for a fraction,and then the Alabama DB stripped it out of his hands. By rule - no catch. But it dang sure was a catch. Not the exact same scenario - just making a point.
Rules are important, but they have to be evenly applied. In this case the officials tried to evenly apply the rule. Opinions differ around when he lost control of the ball.
I'll tell you what the commissioner was thinking, "Dang. The officiating crew blew the call, but I'm not going to state that publicly because that would open a can of worms I don't want opened. Therefore, I'm going to publicly state that the mistake the crew made was not in fact a mistake."
My point was that the receiver did indeed maintain control "to the ground" - whatever that means.
Rule book or no rule book - that was a legitimate catch for a TD.
Rule book or no rule book - that was a legitimate catch for a TD.
He controlled the ball to the ground then controlled it after hitting the ground though. The DB just happened to roll in the direction of the ball and took it out of the WR’s hand. I believe it’s like someone said earlier. It’s about money. Vandy has a better shot at a bowl.
Agree. It's a horrible rule plus it's a somewhat vaguely written rule. This play could easily be interpreted either way based on how the rule reads. I don't pretend to know the intent of the writers, but I have a hard time believing this play was it.
I agree - my eyes tell me that was a TD catch. I am just trying to be fair to the officials. I call them out when they are clearly wrong, but in this case they have a terrible rule to try and enforce.
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