Ominous Signs Ahead

JustNeedMe81

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I think we need to move on from Riley and Milroe discussion.

Riley is probably heading to NFL after this season. USC tenure has been bad for him. I don't see him back coaching USC next season. I think he goes to NFL as OC playcaller.
 

colbysullivan

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If the dude is as good at manipulating players and coaches as some on this board have implied, he needs to quit playing and become an agent. He would make Jimmy Sexton look like a chump.
The thing is Sexton always has leverage. Milroe doesn’t have any now. The cat is out of the bag.
 

Bama_N_Va

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I think the fact that computer metrics said this was a Top 5-10 CFB team demonstrates that they aren’t to be trusted…lol
I thought its reply was very logical, well articulated, and comprehensive.

I was hoping if its Offensive Game Plan was the same, well.......we know where to find our new OC!!!!!
 

tusks_n_raider

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If the dude is as good at manipulating players and coaches as some on this board have implied, he needs to quit playing and become an agent. He would make Jimmy Sexton look like a chump.
I don’t think he will succeed at football but he is intelligent and has other interpersonal skills that will ensure he succeeds in life and especially in Business.

I’ll leave it that.
 
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Isaiah 63:1

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Probably at 35k or in an airport somewhere
hard to do when the QB is telling the D that this is a run play...
If in fact Milroe's pre-snap stance was highly indicative of the play call, then it's one of the few things about which I actually am disappointed in CKD. I assume there are off-the-field reasons for the QB snap allocation, so I am giving him a pass on that. But this "tell" should be discovered by the self-scouting that any competent coaching staff should be doing, and its apparent lack is concerning...
 

NoNC4Tubs

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If in fact Milroe's pre-snap stance was highly indicative of the play call, then it's one of the few things about which I actually am disappointed in CKD. I assume there are off-the-field reasons for the QB snap allocation, so I am giving him a pass on that. But this "tell" should be discovered by the self-scouting that any competent coaching staff should be doing, and its apparent lack is concerning...
It's probably one of those things he works on in practice, but never actually makes it into an actual game.
Who knows?:unsure:

As they say, you can lead a horse to water... :cool:
 
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gtgilbert

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If in fact Milroe's pre-snap stance was highly indicative of the play call, then it's one of the few things about which I actually am disappointed in CKD. I assume there are off-the-field reasons for the QB snap allocation, so I am giving him a pass on that. But this "tell" should be discovered by the self-scouting that any competent coaching staff should be doing, and its apparent lack is concerning...
lots of folks have been saying that the staff knew and had worked extensively with him on it, but like most things in the game for him, the work didn't stick once it got to games.
 

Isaiah 63:1

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Probably at 35k or in an airport somewhere
It's probably one of those things he works on in practice, but never actually makes it into an actual game.
Who knows?:unsure:

As they say, you can lead a horse to water... :cool:
lots of folks have been saying that the staff knew and had worked extensively with him on it, but like most things in the game for him, the work didn't stick once it got to games.
Not to beat a dead horse being led to water, but then as a coach you have two choices, not necessarily mutually exclusive, for the sake of the team:

  1. Tell JM (with any LANK accomplices as witnesses) that if this tell appears in a game with the outcome in the balance, he'll be replaced and will have the next week in practice to work on it. And then we'll repeat as necessary on a weekly basis.
  2. Take a page from Andre Agassi's playbook. Let him keep doing it, and before the most strategic plays of the game (4th and short, for instance), have him intentionally give, say, the run tell on a pass play. So the defense sells out to stop a run that is not coming. If he can't do that, see #1 above.
 

NoNC4Tubs

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Not to beat a dead horse being led to water, but then as a coach you have two choices, not necessarily mutually exclusive, for the sake of the team:

  1. Tell JM (with any LANK accomplices as witnesses) that if this tell appears in a game with the outcome in the balance, he'll be replaced and will have the next week in practice to work on it. And then we'll repeat as necessary on a weekly basis.
  2. Take a page from Andre Agassi's playbook. Let him keep doing it, and before the most strategic plays of the game (4th and short, for instance), have him intentionally give, say, the run tell on a pass play. So the defense sells out to stop a run that is not coming. If he can't do that, see #1 above.
That would be over-estimating what Milroe can do... :cool:
 
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Con

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Not to beat a dead horse being led to water, but then as a coach you have two choices, not necessarily mutually exclusive, for the sake of the team:

  1. Tell JM (with any LANK accomplices as witnesses) that if this tell appears in a game with the outcome in the balance, he'll be replaced and will have the next week in practice to work on it. And then we'll repeat as necessary on a weekly basis.
  2. Take a page from Andre Agassi's playbook. Let him keep doing it, and before the most strategic plays of the game (4th and short, for instance), have him intentionally give, say, the run tell on a pass play. So the defense sells out to stop a run that is not coming. If he can't do that, see #1 above.
The Andre Agassi story was great! Thank you for linking that.
 

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