Ominous Signs Ahead

CoolBreeze

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The below image in the article says it all. Not sure it is a deer in the headlights moment like the Shula days but we are about to find out if CKD has the stones to make it at the Capstone. He has lost 16 games in his 20 year career, a third of them (4) in the past 3 months. Dude will either roll up the sleeves and right the ship during the offseason or we'll be in the market for a coach in about 12 months.

 
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Evil Crimson Dragon

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The below image in the article says it all. Not sure it is a deer in the headlights moment like the Shula days but we are about to find out if CKD has the stones to make it at the Capstone. He has lost 16 games in his 20 year career, a third of them (4) in the past 3 months. Dude will either roll up the sleeves and right the ship during the offseason or we'll be in the market for a coach in about 12 months.

I think someone at the school is probably telling him this very thing
 

bamaslammer

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I am getting STRONG DuBose/Shula vibes from this guy. A reluctance to make a change when one is needed,
I'm getting that ick feeling as well. Younger fans don't know how horrible that was. But in defense of DuBose and Shula, in most cases the backups back then were either not division 1 level athletes or just walkons. DeBoer had a talented option to go to and simply stood there and watched the train wreck happen week after week. When asked to explain his answers were vague at best. Seemed to say something along the lines "his running was a threat" Seriously!!! You can't beat a quality football team without a passing game. There's a reason Nebraska is no longer in the playoff hunt.
 
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Evil Crimson Dragon

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I'm getting that ick feeling as well. Younger fans don't know how horrible that was. But in defense of DuBose and Shula, in most cases the backups back then were either not division 1 level athletes or just walkons. DeBoer had a talented option to go to and simply stood there and watched the train wreck happen week after week. When asked to explain his answers were vague at best. Seemed to say something along the lines "his running was a threat" Seriously!!! You can't beat a quality football team without a passing game. There's a reason Nebraska is no longer in the playoff hunt.
I wont go that far............I think there may be something behind the scenes we dont know about. Some agreement to let him play that carried over from Saban's last year. I wouldnt have made the deal, but then again I probably wouldnt have had a team to field either
 

FloridanBlogger

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It's hard to judge Sheridan based on the fact that he had such a wildcard like Milroe at quarterback (similar to Daboll with Hurts).

The run game fails half the time because Milroe makes the wrong read and keeps the ball when the RB had a wide open lane and then hands it off when the lanes are closed. And Sheridan schemed receivers open all game long against Tennessee, Oklahoma and Michigan yet Milroe couldn't see them. On the rare occasion that he did, he was over/under throwing the ball, hence why our players were having to make acrobatic catches.

Plug any other quarterback from the Saban era (with the exception of Hurts) into this offense and we finish the regular season with one loss. Do you guys think we lose to Tennessee or Michigan with John Parker Wilson under center?

I don't know how anyone with even casual football knowledge can watch this offense and blame the deficiencies on anything but the quarterback. Milroe literally can't do anything when defenses take his legs away.

If you want to criticize Deboer, do it for refusing to bench Milroe. But there's literally nothing any OC can do with a quarterback like Milroe. He has no business being behind center. Why Saban or Deboer didn't target another QB in the portal is a mystery because I'm not convinced Ty is any better. In one half against South Florida, he could barely muster a first down.
 

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I'm getting that ick feeling as well. Younger fans don't know how horrible that was. But in defense of DuBose and Shula, in most cases the backups back then were either not division 1 level athletes or just walkons. DeBoer had a talented option to go to and simply stood there and watched the train wreck happen week after week. When asked to explain his answers were vague at best. Seemed to say something along the lines "his running was a threat" Seriously!!! You can't beat a quality football team without a passing game. There's a reason Nebraska is no longer in the playoff hunt.
Imagine how much worse those Dubose and Shula teams would have been with Milroe under center.

Who was that talented option you were referring to? Ty Simpson? What are you basing this on? His subpar performance against a lowly AAC school? Go back and watch that game. Ty isn't the Tua many fans have led themselves to believe. Even against Mercer this year, his stats were underwhelming (more so than Milroe's). He couldn't beat out Buchner. Two different head coaches refused to start him which is a huge red flag.

And I get it, it's frustrating that Deboer refuses to throw his players under the bus. But Saban wouldn't either. If you're going to stick with a player for whatever reason, the last thing you want to do is publicly humiliate him.

This whole idea that Deboer inherited the 72 Dolphins is laughably false. He inherited the remains of a team that that was one play away from losing to three awful teams last year and was also blown out by Texas in BDS. And by remains, I mean without the other 40 something players that either declared or portaled out.

As I said previously, we would have one loss with any other QB from the Saban era with the exception of Hurts.

There isn't a single coach in the country that was going to walk in and win with Jalen Hurts. None.
 

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It's hard to judge Sheridan based on the fact that he had such a wildcard like Milroe at quarterback (similar to Daboll with Hurts).

The run game fails half the time because Milroe makes the wrong read and keeps the ball when the RB had a wide open lane and then hands it off when the lanes are closed. And Sheridan schemed receivers open all game long against Tennessee, Oklahoma and Michigan yet Milroe couldn't see them. On the rare occasion that he did, he was over/under throwing the ball, hence why our players were having to make acrobatic catches.

Plug any other quarterback from the Saban era (with the exception of Hurts) into this offense and we finish the regular season with one loss. Do you guys think we lose to Tennessee or Michigan with John Parker Wilson under center?

I don't know how anyone with even casual football knowledge can watch this offense and blame the deficiencies on anything but the quarterback. Milroe literally can't do anything when defenses take his legs away.

If you want to criticize Deboer, do it for refusing to bench Milroe. But there's literally nothing any OC can do with a quarterback like Milroe. He has no business being behind center. Why Saban or Deboer didn't target another QB in the portal is a mystery because I'm not convinced Ty is any better. In one half against South Florida, he could barely muster a first down.
I'd say that Hurts, at least the 3rd year Hurts, after he was able to grow and learn more, would be undefeated with this team.

Saban did get another QB in the portal. The OL (and some others) mutinied and almost got the poor guy killed, and then when TS somehow saved the day, most of the OL wouldn't even help him up after he broke like 3 tackles to score a rushing TD. The only OL who did help him transferred out and became an all-american.
 

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This team was the defending SEC champion who lost to national champion in OT. Not a dearth of talent.
Much of that talent left. 3 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, 1 3rd round pick, 4 day 3 picks. 10 players total drafted.

Koolaid
Arnold
Turner
Braswell
Egboigbe
Marshall
Key
Story
Oatis
Robinson (injury)
Lawson (injury)
Downs
Amos
etc.

Latham
Burton
Bond
Hale
McClellan
McLaughlin
Niblack
Adams (injury)

That’s a lot of good and great talent lost. No doubt the staff did not optimize the current talent at times but this team changed dramatically from last year to this year. With all of that talent the team came within an eyelash of losing to Ark and AU, and could have lost to UTn and A&M.
 
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