Link: Only 559 Students Eligible to buy SEC Champ. Tickets

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Also, the "difficulty" index is just plain stupidity. Too subjective.
Stupidity? That's a bit harsh. It's best to be amiable at this hour.

It's not that subjective. I believe that there is a fairly good consensus on what curricula are difficult and which are not. If you apply to a graduate school, the degree that you earn is a huge factor in your chances of being accepted. If colleges are willing to use such a subjective factor in graduate admissions, I don't think that they'd find it too ascerbic for use in determining who gets athletic tickets. The University (as are most others) is always looking for ways to boost their quality enrollment in the mathematics and sciences, so it's not as far-fetched as you might think.

As long as you don't have a huge deviation between the top and bottom of the scale, I believe that it would be fine.

All that I know is that we don't need a spike in Art History majors in order to secure football tickets. ;)
 

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And yes, we could buy student tickets to the SEC Championship Game in 92 - we had to camp out nearly 30 hours to get them though.
A fellow camper here, for both SECCG and SB tickets. Slept on the sidewalk on the side of Coleman. I remember someone had a tv/vcr powered up watching the '85 Iron Bowl.

My buddies camped out in the cold all night and I walked in an hour after the tickets went on sale, went directly to the booth with no lines and got better seats than did they.
The cold wasn't fatal, but their reaction almost was. :biggrin:
Tidefans policy doesn't allow me to say what I think about you. :biggrin:
 

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Actually, by the time you count in the tickets for the band (400) and those that go to the players so their parents can attend (200) the number is really 1,800 or 15%, which is about the same ratio that goes to students at the home games and other road games.

And yes, we could buy student tickets to the SEC Championship Game in 92 - we had to camp out nearly 30 hours to get them though.
The band and other VIPs have already been accounted for. The number released by Tuscaloosa News had the original allotment at 1,900. After taking the band and other VIPs out you are left with the +-1,200 that have been set aside for the 600 selected students to purchase.
 

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Stupidity? That's a bit harsh. It's best to be amiable at this hour.

It's not that subjective. I believe that there is a fairly good consensus on what curricula are difficult and which are not. If you apply to a graduate school, the degree that you earn is a huge factor in your chances of being accepted. If colleges are willing to use such a subjective factor in graduate admissions, I don't think that they'd find it too ascerbic for use in determining who gets athletic tickets. The University (as are most others) is always looking for ways to boost their quality enrollment in the mathematics and sciences, so it's not as far-fetched as you might think.

As long as you don't have a huge deviation between the top and bottom of the scale, I believe that it would be fine.

All that I know is that we don't need a spike in Art History majors in order to secure football tickets. ;)
I agree, too harsh. However, take a good friend of the family, a Theatre major who graduated and went on to the top of her class...in Law School at UA. I still couldn't support something based on how hard your classes are or aren't. I think even an open lottery would be more fair all around. We're all fans here, afterall.
 

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Distribute tickets based on the number of games attended. That still benefits seniority, assuming that you've continuously attended games in your earlier years. But it would stop the resale of student tickets by people who simply buy them and do not attend the games, and it would stop home game tickets from going unused. The electronic tracking systems are already in place to allow this, and I can't think of any downsides... especially when compared to the current system.
Agree. We have (or should start compiling) the data on attendance. I can't see rewarding profiteers over those who actually attend the games.


Also, on the criteria, the only folks I knew from the list were grad students who did their undergrad work at Alabama and are in their sixth year at the Capstone.
 

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SECCG student tickets are being sold for $350 a piece on Facebook. And yes, some people are selling both of their tickets. That is 1000% of the original price, as I predicted. And you don't even want to know how much Iron Bowl tickets are going for, seeing as how they only cost students $5.

Clearly, something has to change.
 
In 1994, we just slept outside coleman col for the ticket office to open Monday morning and paid the full price, just liek everyone else. No different than camping out for extra tickets before the seaon started in '94. DO they not let students do that anymore. There were a LARGE number of students at the '94 SECCG. I wouldn't see why not this time too. And yes, I was an undergrad.
 

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The problem with only letting grad students go to the game is that most of them have only been attending UA for 1 or 2 years, as a lot got their degrees from somewhere else, whereas undergrad seniors have been there for 4 or 5. I think they should base their allotment on how many years you have attended UA.
 

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Weren't there students back in 94 that got shut out? I remember hearing about numerous students camping out, I was not one of them and when they went on sale, only so many in line were able to get tickets.
 

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They should have a point system that students can earn points for times like these. How many home football games did they attend? How many baseball games? How many Basketball (men and womens), softball, soccer and volleyball games did they go to? This would increase attendance for these other sports, and give incentive for people to be there. You would earn points throughout your college career, almost like tidepride points, and when something like things comes about, the biggest Tidfans will be rewarded, and I gurantee you that if someone went to all those events, then they wouldn't be selling their tickets. They would be at the game.
 

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Weren't there students back in 94 that got shut out? I remember hearing about numerous students camping out, I was not one of them and when they went on sale, only so many in line were able to get tickets.
 
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I believe each school gets less than 16,000 seats each. I hate it that more students don't get to go, but look through this thread. Many of the people buying them are simply buying them to sell them, so how many should the students get if they are not going to go anyway.

I KNOW that some students would go if they could get the tickets, but 15,900 is not very many tickets for Bama.
 

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I believe each school gets less than 16,000 seats each. I hate it that more students don't get to go, but look through this thread. Many of the people buying them are simply buying them to sell them, so how many should the students get if they are not going to go anyway.
The question is which students and whether they will go to the game. Since the students are going to get tickets at such a cut rate ($35/ticket), they should be expected to attend themselves. If the tickets were not-transferable, then only those who wanted to go would buy. And the profiteering would be eliminated.
I KNOW that some students would go if they could get the tickets, but 15,900 is not very many tickets for Bama.
Since Alabama got 15,900 tickets and the students get 1,200 (plus student-athletes' tickets for their families, and band members, etc.), say 2,000 tickets for current students, where do the other 13,900 go, and how much is the University charging for them? Tide Pride members? How much are those tickets?
 

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We paid $12 apiece I believe back in the early 90's. We had to sell a lot of blood and plasma just to get that much.
Man, that brings back memories. Although I never went with them I had a few buddies that would go sell plasma quite often. That was mid to late 80's. I wonder if it still goes on today? I'm sure it probably does.
 

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See, what you have happening here is what happens when you get outside of the school's control. This is being controlled by the SEC and there is no doubt that when Roy Kramer set this up it was all about the money that could be made and distributed to the member schools.

All of you that clamor for a playoff in college football, this is what you would get except it would be far worse, because now the NCAA would be in control, not your own conference and the goal would be to make money for the NCAA, they would just pay out a few crumbs to the member institutions.

I agree it sucks for the students. Life ain't fair sometimes. Thankfully we didn't have this situation when I was in Tuscaloosa. I will say this though, if you want in the game you can get into the game. Period.
 

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I'm not sure the tickets were even awarded based on hours, as the UA email said. I know of a couple who received tickets and have fewer hours than I do, and I've heard rumors that several on the list are actually freshmen. Now it's possible that they implemented a lottery system within a certain stratification of UA hours (i.e. everyone between 90 and 100 hours would be entered into the same lottery and have an equal shot), but if the rumors of freshmen are true...

Assuming Florida has the same 8% student ticket distribution (not counting band members and other guaranteed seats), that's fewer than 2,500 student seats for the two schools combined. Life is, indeed, not fair. But even less fair was the UA ticket office's handling.

Very frustrating.
 
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