Police brutality against teenage girl

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Okay I'm going to get flamed but it KIND-UH looks like the dude got his footing "cross ways" and almost lost his balance. Go back and look at the action or "re-action" of his upper body right before he knocks her down. It appears his right arm is partly reaching toward the wall to catch himself and his left arm looks to be doing the same on her shoulder. To me if he was trying to shove her to the ground his arm action would have looked a lot different.
 

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Okay I'm going to get flamed but it KIND-UH looks like the dude got his footing "cross ways" and almost lost his balance. Go back and look at the action or "re-action" of his upper body right before he knocks her down. It appears his right arm is partly reaching toward the wall to catch himself and his left arm looks to be doing the same on her shoulder. To me if he was trying to shove her to the ground his arm action would have looked a lot different.
I'll start it off. Not a chance in hell he lost his balance. He gave her forearm shiver and was using his right hand to brace himself against the wall. She's a punk but you see this type of abuse all too often from police. I'm surprised he didn't pull out his taser though.

Generally, I am suspect of cops who are under 45 and wear their shirt a size too small. Most are on power trips and liken themselves to the military.
 

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I'll start it off. Not a chance in hell he lost his balance. He gave her forearm shiver and was using his right hand to brace himself against the wall. She's a punk but you see this type of abuse all too often from police. I'm surprised he didn't pull out his taser though.

Generally, I am suspect of cops who are under 45 and wear their shirt a size too small. Most are on power trips and liken themselves to the military.
Then he throws a forearm like a sissy. That's one of the pansiest "forearms" I've seen from someone with a running start. Oh well...
 

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Then he throws a forearm like a sissy. That's one of the pansiest "forearms" I've seen from someone with a running start. Oh well...
Maybe he lets his daughter wear "inappropriate" clothing.

Generally, though, when one trips in front of someone and is trying not to fall down they grab onto to that person. Not throw a forearm up and accelerate through the contact. Then immediately after go straight after her arm for the cuffs.
 

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The term police brutality seems a little much in this case, but unless there's something I'm missing, it looks like unnecessary force to me. Maybe, to some others, it's the same thing.
 

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Don't know the whole story but it does not look good for the cop. I know that it might be some other thing involved like a gun or something like that so judgement is held until further info.
 

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I hate it when someone shows a short video and then expects everyone else to jump to whatever conclusions are available. As with many such videos, this one only tells half the story, if that. Without knowing what went on beforehand, and why they were called to the scene, it's almost impossible to tell whether the actions he took are justified or if they border on brutality.
It sure would be nice to know the whole story. :rolleyes:
 

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So you wouldn't have an issue with this cop if that were your kid?
I'd like to know more of the context of the story if you want me to be honest. In the clip there's no sound, no information, no background, nothing. Just going on first blush reaction if the cop shoved her to the ground and had no substantiated reason to then yes. He was in the wrong. But "brutality" might be a harsh word for what I saw. When I saw the title of the thread I was expecting a beat down. Not a sissified questionable forearm that looked more like a push down.
 

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*Maybe he lets his daughter wear "inappropriate" clothing.

Generally, though, when one trips in front of someone and is trying not to fall down they grab onto to that person. **Not throw a forearm up and accelerate through the contact. Then immediately after go straight after her arm for the cuffs.
*Or maybe his wife beats him and makes him wear her underwear and squeal like a pig in the front yard in front of the neighbors and he's just mad.

**Is that what you saw? Dang sure ain't what I saw. Appeared to me his right hand was reaching to the wall to catch his balance and if he was intending to throw a forearm it didn't look like to me he was leveraged enough to "accelerate through". If he would "accelerated through" she'd been thrown a lot further forward and more than likely hit up against the wall which none of those appeared to have happened.
 

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I hate it when someone shows a short video and then expects everyone else to jump to whatever conclusions are available. As with many such videos, this one only tells half the story, if that. Without knowing what went on beforehand, and why they were called to the scene, it's almost impossible to tell whether the actions he took are justified or if they border on brutality.
It sure would be nice to know the whole story. :rolleyes:
Did you bother to look beyond the 1st post? Go back to the last post on page 1 of this thread if you want more info on the situation.
She caused a problem no doubt. But I still think he could have put her on the ground and arrested her without trying to knock her into next week.
She did need to be arrested. And the cop putting her on the ground to cuff her is one thing. But regardless of WHY the cops had to be called, there is no excuse for him to be that aggressive. And I don't buy it that he simply lost his footing or stumbles or whatever. She went down hard and I think that's the way he wanted it. JMO.
 
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Did anyone notice that the girl turns to look at the cop and her right hand moves toward her shirt, almost like reaching inside. The hand movement is also natural for a person when they turn to the left. Without knowing the circumstances, she could well be hiding a razor blade in her blouse, if not, that was too much force to use. I did a stint as a corrections/booking officer at a county sheriffs office for a couple of years and you wouldn't believe where people hide things like knives, drugs, razor blades. They don't call it a full cavity search for nothing. (that vision needs to leave my head). Anyway, it appears to me that he was in full control when he nailed her but as others have said, that video does not tell the whole story.
 

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Did you bother to look beyond the 1st post? Go back to the last post on page 1 of this thread if you want more info on the situation.
She caused a problem no doubt. But I still think he could have put her on the ground and arrested her without trying to knock her into next week.
She did need to be arrested. And the cop putting her on the ground to cuff her is one thing. But regardless of WHY the cops had to be called, there is no excuse for him to be that aggressive. And I don't buy it that he simply lost his footing or stumbles or whatever. She went down hard and I think that's the way he wanted it. JMO.
Of course I did but every poster including yourself watches the video and then draws their own conclusions. There is no "info" besides what the video shows. Until more facts come out surrounding the situation, we'll just have to leave it at that.
 
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I think what the officer did was totally unnecessary. She wasn't running or resisting in literal terms although she was doing both in terms of what one should not do when dealing with the law. After reading what she supposedly did I, if I were her parent, would beat her butt but would not be happy with Officer Peterson's actions. The girls neck could have easily been broken and her head split wide open. All that said however I'm not sure what the outcome will or should be. The girl deserved a fanny flogging and the officer should have just grabbed and forced her to the ground. JMO
 

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I would call it excessive force. Police brutality? Eh...not so much. Had she not been behaving as she was, the cops wouldn't have been called in the first place. Then, if she had followed verbal commands, she could've been taken into custody in a more appropriate fashion.

That being said, the cop could clearly have chosen a less forceful means for apprehending her. He could've broken her neck or cracked her skull easily with slamming into her like that.

Looks like to me, neither the girl nor the cop are the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
 

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I think what the officer did was totally unnecessary. She wasn't running or resisting in literal terms although she was doing both in terms of what one should not do when dealing with the law. After reading what she supposedly did I, if I were her parent, would beat her butt but would not be happy with Officer Peterson's actions. The girls neck could have easily been broken and her head split wide open. All that said however I'm not sure what the outcome will or should be. The girl deserved a fanny flogging and the officer should have just grabbed and forced her to the ground. JMO
I would call it excessive force. Police brutality? Eh...not so much. Had she not been behaving as she was, the cops wouldn't have been called in the first place. Then, if she had followed verbal commands, she could've been taken into custody in a more appropriate fashion.

That being said, the cop could clearly have chosen a less forceful means for apprehending her. He could've broken her neck or cracked her skull easily with slamming into her like that.

Looks like to me, neither the girl nor the cop are the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
Meh, a little bump like that isn't going to break a neck, come on.

This video isn't enough to determine excessive force, much less police brutality. We don't know what was said by her, the other people there, or the cop. For all we know the girl had threatened someone there with a weapon (which she may or may not have had) and the officer had to assume that she was armed and prepared to use it. Cops pretty much have to assume everyone is armed.

If someone has a knife and you walk up slowly behind them, that's when you get stabbed. Knock them down quickly from behind, and you don't. It's pretty simple. What if, while walking away, she had murmured something like "I'll cut you" just loud enough for the cop to hear while he was telling her to stop walking away? That would completely justify his actions, would it not?

Until we know all the facts about what happened - which we may never know - forming an opinion is simply doing so in ignorance.
 
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