PREVIEW: Alabama-Vanderbilt could be a shootout [by JessN]

[Crimson Cat]

Re: PREVIEW: Alabama-Vanderbilt could be a shootout

I guess I'm one of the few that disagrees with most of your assessments. I don't think this game will be that close except for the first quarter or so. Vandy put up some decent numbers against... the Richmond Spiders? Come on. And for those who would point to them beating the Bulldogs last year, its a new year. Heck we almost lost to FIU and Duke last year but I don't think most of you would think those would even be close this year. And no I'm not dissing Vandy, I think they are a respectable team, especially since Bobby Johnson took over, and certainly one you cannot underestimate them, but these close score predictions have me puzzled.
For sure our defense is AVERAGE SEC caliber IMO rght now, but I do think its better than Vandy's and the strength of this team is our offense and special teams (returns) which has only begun to show the potential explosiveness it will have under Applewhite/Pendry. If XCMS were still here, then yes I might concede this one to Vandy, but not now. I think Bama pulls away in the 3rd Quarter. JMHO.

 

[CrimsonChampion]

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I guess I'm one of the few that disagrees with most of your assessments. I don't think this game will be that close except for the first quarter or so. Vandy put up some decent numbers against... the Richmond Spiders? Come on. And for those who would point to them beating the Bulldogs last year, its a new year. Heck we almost lost to FIU and Duke last year but I don't think most of you would think those would even be close this year. And no I'm not dissing Vandy, I think they are a respectable team, especially since Bobby Johnson took over, and certainly one you cannot underestimate them, but these close score predictions have me puzzled.
For sure our defense is AVERAGE SEC caliber IMO rght now, but I do think its better than Vandy's and the strength of this team is our offense and special teams (returns) which has only begun to show the potential explosiveness it will have under Applewhite/Pendry. If XCMS were still here, then yes I might concede this one to Vandy, but not now. I think Bama pulls away in the 3rd Quarter. JMHO.

'BAMA IS BACK!
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Sorry,had to say that.
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This time,THEY DIE.

 

[Ldlane]

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Jess,

We ain't Richmond! If Richmond can put up 310 Total offense, we should be able to double that and time of Possession. I expect a big win: 38-10

 

[Bama1970]

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Jess,

We ain't Richmond! If Richmond can put up 310 Total offense, we should be able to double that and time of Possession. I expect a big win: 38-10

That sure says alot about Vandy's D!

 

[Littlewing]

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That sure says alot about Vandy's D!

they can say that about bamas D. Bama gave up 247 to western carolina. but i agree bama by atleast 14

 

[doliver25]

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I think the coaches know what Prince Hall can do although he is not starting. Can you imagine the shock the opposing players have seeing McClain on the field as MLB? Somebody on defense has got to get a pick this weekend! I'm predicting off a tip. AND as long as we always follow doctors orders and watch for the inside trap....

BAMA- 45
VANDY- 20

 

[SCrammerjammer]

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I like the stat from last week: Yards after catch: something like 134.

Bama will run, but the stat above will take a huge toll towards scoring threats. The running game will open up the pass and plus yardage.

Never take Vandy lightly. They are also well coached.

However, it's gonna be Bama 28-Vandy 9.

 

[smokies1]

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you guys are a lot more confident than I

 

[doliver25]

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i'm confident that after this weekend all the teams on our schedule will take
notice that this ain't your mama's alabama!

 

[Tradition4ever]

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they can say that about bamas D. Bama gave up 247 to western carolina. but i agree bama by atleast 14

I don't know how WCU and Richmond compare, but consider this: Bama's D gave up 247 total yards to WCU, but this was the first game for the D running a new scheme, with quite a few guys getting their first start, or first chance of PT. Vandy's D gave up 310 yards to Richmond, and they shouldn't be running a new scheme. I don't know the experience level of the Vandy D, but most of the guys have at least a year's experience practicing and running the scheme. Bama, to me, clearly has more upside on D, and we all know CNS and the D staff will figure out a way to neutralize the Vandy O attack!

31-17 Bama, and that's being conservative.

 

[rolltideas]

But Vandy's "D" hasn't been highlighted with a big fat Question ? Mark like Bama's has. All I've heard is how Vandy is bringing back experience on D. Seems like an experienced D that is talented shouldn't yield 300+ to a really lackluster football team.

 

[Alanbama27]

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they can say that about bamas D. Bama gave up 247 to western carolina. but i agree bama by atleast 14

I don't think that either "D" can be looked at in bad terms because of the number of yards that were given up. You have to look at the yards given up based upon WHEN in the game they were given up. We played everyone but the water boy, so that is what matters...not total yards in a game where you play that many players and for that length of time.

Western Carolina ran the ball 39 times and gained a total of 79 yards for the entire game; that is 2.02 yards per carry and they had one run of 18 yards, which means that the other 38 carries netted them 61 yards or 1.6 yards per carry. Richmand on the other hand got 149 yards rushing and averaged 4.3 yards per rush. Both Vandy and Richmand ran the ball 35 times, with Vandy averaging 4.6 yards per carry to Richmands. 4.3. Again, you can now begin to come to some conclusions regarding Vandy's "D".

On the contrary, Richmand actually was leading the game and took their first drive of the day down the field, took off 6:12 from the clock drove 75 yards and scored 3 points. Vandy followed with a 4:18 drive and got 7.

In the second quarter Vandy had a 7 play 65 yard drive that took 3:18 and got another 7.

Richmand this time answered with a 7 play 67 yard drive that took 2:56 off the clock and got 7 this time.

Vandy had an 11 play 71 yard drive that got them another 7 to end the first half at 21-10.

Vandy scored 10 points in the 3rd quarter and Richmand had a 71 yard kick off return for their 7.

It wasn't until the 4th that Vandy shut Richmand down and put another 10 on the board.

my point with this is that Vandy likely played their starters most of the game and Richmand's yards were against Vandy's 1st team "D" for the most part. Bama on the other hand gave up 99 total yards in the first half when our starters were still playing full time and even in the 3rd quarter, our 2nd team "D" gave up the one long drive before our starters went in and shut WC down cold.

So, once you look at things in perspective I think it's fair to say that Vandy has some question marks on their "D" and Bama's is getting some answers.

 

[bat123]

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I don't think that either "D" can be looked at in bad terms because of the number of yards that were given up. You have to look at the yards given up based upon WHEN in the game they were given up. We played everyone but the water boy, so that is what matters...not total yards in a game where you play that many players and for that length of time.

Western Carolina ran the ball 39 times and gained a total of 79 yards for the entire game; that is 2.02 yards per carry and they had one run of 18 yards, which means that the other 38 carries netted them 61 yards or 1.6 yards per carry. Richmand on the other hand got 149 yards rushing and averaged 4.3 yards per rush. Both Vandy and Richmand ran the ball 35 times, with Vandy averaging 4.6 yards per carry to Richmands. 4.3. Again, you can now begin to come to some conclusions regarding Vandy's "D".

On the contrary, Richmand actually was leading the game and took their first drive of the day down the field, took off 6:12 from the clock drove 75 yards and scored 3 points. Vandy followed with a 4:18 drive and got 7.

In the second quarter Vandy had a 7 play 65 yard drive that took 3:18 and got another 7.

Richmand this time answered with a 7 play 67 yard drive that took 2:56 off the clock and got 7 this time.

Vandy had an 11 play 71 yard drive that got them another 7 to end the first half at 21-10.

Vandy scored 10 points in the 3rd quarter and Richmand had a 71 yard kick off return for their 7.

It wasn't until the 4th that Vandy shut Richmand down and put another 10 on the board.

my point with this is that Vandy likely played their starters most of the game and Richmand's yards were against Vandy's 1st team "D" for the most part. Bama on the other hand gave up 99 total yards in the first half when our starters were still playing full time and even in the 3rd quarter, our 2nd team "D" gave up the one long drive before our starters went in and shut WC down cold.

So, once you look at things in perspective I think it's fair to say that Vandy has some question marks on their "D" and Bama's is getting some answers.

I agree with you whole heartedly, the fact that most of WCU's yardayge was between the 30's and Bama played a TON of players.
Vandy keeps it close the first half and after the second starts it's Katy barred the door.
Bama 38-14

 

[Tide n True]

I'm honestly not worried about Vandy. I was worried about MSU last year, and they were much worse off than Vandy is at this point. The difference is that we played with some serious intensity that I haven't seen in a long time last week. Vandy has always given us a run for our money because we've had a tendency to play down to them. If we maintained the intensity level we had against W. Carolina last week throughout that entire game, I think we can do the same against Vandy.

I don't agree that it will be a shootout. I think we'll shut down their offense early, hang at least 35 on them, and they will score one touchdown late in the game that brings their score up to 10. We'll answer with a field goal.

Final score: 38-10.

Again, I could be wrong, but I looked at their game last week. Keep the Appy. State/Michigan game in mind. Had Michigan played to its full potential, Appy. State wouldn't have stood a chance. I think Vandy would have won last week regardless, but had Richmond played to its full potential the score would have been much closer.

 

[yellowhammer13]

Tight game early on. We hit a deep route for a TD to break a 10-10 tie and go into the half up 17-10 and grab the momentum.

A kick or punt return at some point in the 2nd half to really turn things and we ride the ground game. Bama wins going away 34-17

 

[rgw]

Alabama wins the toss, elects to receive.

Arenas secures the return at the 15 and returns it to around the 35. Alabama's offense comes out in an off-balanced I-form, the FB is set into motion to the strong side, JPW takes the snap and fakes the toss to Grant. Wilson sprints left and makes a strong throw on the move to DJ crossing wide-open 25+ yards down field. DJ takes it the rest of the way for the TD and the rout begins...

OK, so I can't predict the future that well, but I think we're going to slaughter the Vandy defense. They'll try to take away our rushing attack early figuring we'll try to pound them but instead we'll counter with some big plays off the play fake. Expect Wilson to have a big game and DJ to get those school records.

Alabama running away, 38-14.

 

[Alanbama27]

Alabama wins the toss, elects to receive.

Arenas secures the return at the 15 and returns it to around the 35. Alabama's offense comes out in an off-balanced I-form, the FB is set into motion to the strong side, JPW takes the snap and fakes the toss to Grant. Wilson sprints left and makes a strong throw on the move to DJ crossing wide-open 25+ yards down field. DJ takes it the rest of the way for the TD and the rout begins...

OK, so I can't predict the future that well, but I think we're going to slaughter the Vandy defense. They'll try to take away our rushing attack early figuring we'll try to pound them but instead we'll counter with some big plays off the play fake. Expect Wilson to have a big game and DJ to get those school records.

Alabama running away, 38-14.

What's funny about your post is that I think something similar will happen. Vandy will assume that Bama's first play from scrimmage will be a running play since they'll again guess that we want to control the clock. Our first play will be a crossing route to DJ or a long bomb to somebody. It could be a tight I formation pro right with a fake to Huber up the gut and we'll throw a quick dump pass 10 yards downfield to Nick Walker and Nick breaks one tackle and takes it to the house. Yes folks, our TIGHT END takes a short pass 60+ yards to the house! Hey it happened against UcheaT many years ago, why not tomorrow?:biggrin2:

 

[Crimson Hawk]

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I don't know how WCU and Richmond compare, but consider this: Bama's D gave up 247 total yards to WCU, but this was the first game for the D running a new scheme, with quite a few guys getting their first start, or first chance of PT. Vandy's D gave up 310 yards to Richmond, and they shouldn't be running a new scheme. I don't know the experience level of the Vandy D, but most of the guys have at least a year's experience practicing and running the scheme. Bama, to me, clearly has more upside on D, and we all know CNS and the D staff will figure out a way to neutralize the Vandy O attack!

31-17 Bama, and that's being conservative.

I think this is a good point. If teams make the most improvement from week 1, to week 2, one could assume Bama to show the most improvement, overall, considering everything is new to them. Vandy is a well coached, veteran (at least as far as scheme) bunch, but they just don't have the horses. Besides, nobody's seen much of Major's O, yet.

 

[CajunCrimson]

If as Jess infers that all things considered, this is a toss up, I am guessing this is why we invested the cash in Coach Saban........these are the games where he should make the difference....

Losing this one could set us back a season......winning it could steamroll us into Arkansas and a long list of ranked opponents!

Roll Tide.....

42-28

We do a Colts and separate after the half........