QB Gunner Kiel Updates

[4Q Basket Case]

If Gunner Keil wants to play pro ball, he has in all likelihood exactly one chance to get this right. Alabama would be right, as would Oklahoma, and a small number of other schools. Indiana isn't on that list.

At his level, he has a chance to be financially set for life in three or four years. Unlike most of us working schmos, his highest earning potential will be when he's 21 or 22. He doesn't get a do-over (ask Chris Weinke). For him, the stakes are so high that it absolutely has to be a business decision. One could make a legitimate case for a lot of schools. It's really hard to make a straight-faced case for Indiana being the best place to develop him from where he is now to set for life at an incredibly young age.

 

[playball31580]

Looks like no word from Gunner yet. Thought he said that he will decide by the end of this month and he's got about 15 hours left to decide if he wants to Roll with the Tide :biggrin2:

 

[GreatDanish]

If Gunner Keil wants to play pro ball, he has in all likelihood exactly one chance to get this right. Alabama would be right, as would Oklahoma, and a small number of other schools. Indiana isn't on that list.

At his level, he has a chance to be financially set for life in three or four years. Unlike most of us working schmos, his highest earning potential will be when he's 21 or 22. He doesn't get a do-over (ask Chris Weinke). For him, the stakes are so high that it absolutely has to be a business decision. One could make a legitimate case for a lot of schools. It's really hard to make a straight-faced case for Indiana being the best place to develop him from where he is now to set for life at an incredibly young age.

I don't really disagree, but let me just say two things:
1. Many NFL starting QBs came from nothing schools. Maybe they became NFL starting QBs because of the extra experience they may have gotten at a small school (by starting earlier). I don't know. But, you've got Flacco from Delaware, Romo from Eastern Illinois, Schaub from UVA, Big Ben from Miami of Ohio, the list goes on.
2. Kevin Wilson is now the coach at Indiana. The dude has an offensive resume. It's not crazy to think that an elite HS QB would want to play for him.

 

[burnbarnburn]

most ppl dont realize this but if he goes to indiana he will take his older brothers starting qb job.

 

[Tide Warrior]

I still like our chances with him. Most of the people on the Sooner and Mizzou boards feel they have no shot now. Wherever he goes in the end I hope it works out for him. Unlie a lot of high profile recruits he played no games and kept it very simple. Maybe from a fans standpoint we would have liked to get more info but his recruitment has been very professional how he has handled it. I wish him well wherever he signs.RTR

 

[Crimson Surfer]

most ppl dont realize this but if he goes to indiana he will take his older brothers starting qb job.

I think most people do realize that his brother is a QB at Indiana, even Bill King who said he thinks Kiel will choose Indiana knows that. There is a current Internet rumor from an OU poster supposedly in the know, that Kiel is going to choose OU sometime soon. I am still optimistic that he will pick Bama but right now who knows what he will do?

Here is the latest public info about Kiel's recruitment.

Highly-touted quarterback Kiel talks recruiting | High school sports blog | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com

• Kiel on when a decision could be coming: “It’ll probably be sometime this month. I don’t know a date. I’m not going to put a date on it. Whenever I feel it in my gut, I’m probably going to make that decision. When I make that decision, I’ll let my teammates, family and friends know. By then, I’m sure it’ll get out. Then I won’t have to worry about it to much.”

• Although Indiana hasn’t had much recent success on the field compared to other schools he’s considering, Kiel said they are a legitmate contender in his recruitment: “I’ve got to know the coaching staff there really well and they are great guys. Coach (Kevin) Wilson comes from a team that is known for winning games (Oklahoma). A big part is that I have family on the team (Dusty Kiel will be a redshirt sophomore this fall) and it’s 45 minutes away. I know basically everyone on the team and go there to visit my brother and talk to everyone. It’s a family atmosphere there and I like that. No matter where I go, I’m going to support Indiana football.”

 

[Tide Warrior]

Also if I was Gunner and his family I might be a little concerned about the coaching staff at OU. Rumors on alot of Big12 boards and OSU boards is Stoops is the top candidate for the job next year to replace Tressel. Since they will not hire anyone until after the season and if recruits are hearing this I might be a little weary on commiting to OU right now.

Also seen alot rumors starting to pop-up regarding OU and involvement with Lyles and his recruiting service. I guess Texas fans just do not understand why OU has been getting so many recruits out of the state lately. My guess is OU is doing better than the Texas schools but who knows.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

Also if I was Gunner and his family I might be a little concerned about the coaching staff at OU. Rumors on alot of Big12 boards and OSU boards is Stoops is the top candidate for the job next year to replace Tressel. Since they will not hire anyone until after the season and if recruits are hearing this I might be a little weary on commiting to OU right now.

Also seen alot rumors starting to pop-up regarding OU and involvement with Lyles and his recruiting service. I guess Texas fans just do not understand why OU has been getting so many recruits out of the state lately. My guess is OU is doing better than the Texas schools but who knows.

As much as I want to think that gives us an adantage, no way does Stoops leave OU for probation at OSU.

 

[deliveryman35]

Also if I was Gunner and his family I might be a little concerned about the coaching staff at OU. Rumors on alot of Big12 boards and OSU boards is Stoops is the top candidate for the job next year to replace Tressel. Since they will not hire anyone until after the season and if recruits are hearing this I might be a little weary on commiting to OU right now.

Also seen alot rumors starting to pop-up regarding OU and involvement with Lyles and his recruiting service. I guess Texas fans just do not understand why OU has been getting so many recruits out of the state lately. My guess is OU is doing better than the Texas schools but who knows.

No way Stoops goes to Ohio State. He has the same free reign at OU that Nick has here, and the Big 10 is a much tougher conference than the Big 12, not to mention even that Ohio State is about to get punked by the NCAA.

 

[CrimsonEyeshade]

Stoops is an Ohio guy. Just a gut feeling but he and Columbus feel like a feasible match to me, probation or no probation.

Back to Gunner: Situation appears normal. Nobody knows anything.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

Stoops is an Ohio guy. Just a gut feeling but he and Columbus feel like a feasible match to me, probation or no probation.

Back to Gunner: Situation appears normal. Nobody knows anything.

Not sure what his connections to ohio is but No coach is going to want to inherit those sanctions, ties or not, and I imagine after a decade in Norman hes every bit as much of an oklahoma guy as anything at this point.

 

[TDBama78]

i think stoops will be a sooner for a long time, rather than later.

 

[Tide Warrior]

Not sure what his connections to ohio is but No coach is going to want to inherit those sanctions, ties or not, and I imagine after a decade in Norman hes every bit as much of an oklahoma guy as anything at this point.

Stoops was born in Youngstown Ohio where his dad was a long time HS coach.

In regards to OU, the conference they are in is a joke now and with no playoff game for their conference a really good 1 loss team probably has no chance to see the BCS. No to mention the majority of the money from TV revenue goes to Texas. Remember they are the only BCS conference without a CG. Also I would not be surprised to see aTm, OU, and OSU still look this way in the future.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

Stoops was born in Youngstown Ohio where his dad was a long time HS coach.

In regards to OU, the conference they are in is a joke now and with no playoff game for their conference a really good 1 loss team probably has no chance to see the BCS. No to mention the majority of the money from TV revenue goes to Texas. Remember they are the only BCS conference without a CG. Also I would not be surprised to see aTm, OU, and OSU still look this way in the future.

I believe Oklahoma gets a pretty unfair piece of the big 12 pie as well. The Big east is also without a CG, not to mention the CG has kept big game bob out of as many BCSCG's has its gotten him into, now his path is clear.

 

[CrimsonEyeshade]

Chop, logic says you're absolutely right.

But Stoops has been in Norman for a long time and is young enough to have one more move in him. To bring OSU back from whatever penalties in store might just the challenge he's looking for.

Just a feeling, nothing more.

 

[owenfieldreams]

Boy, there's a lot of wild speculation and opinion in this thread about OU, our HC, and the Big 12. If the conference is a joke, then please explain to me why your own TIDEFANS.COM pre-season poll ranks 4 Big 12 teams in the top 15, 2nd only to 5 from the SEC?

Saying Bob Stoops will be going to TOSU because he's originally from Youngstown Ohio is a real stretch. I mean, Bud Wilkinson was from Minnesota. Barry Switzer was from Arkansas. Please! Stoops isn't going anywhere and he's certainly not going to a program that's about to get bent over by the NCAA.

Revenue wise, the conference just signed a $300 million dollar deal with Fox and it's ESPN contract will come up for renewal in the not too distant future. OU is working on it's own TV network. Now, clearly, we will never reach a revenue stream @ the level of Texas but we've certainly been able to compete regardless. Our athletic program is self-sustaining and does not need support from the university general fund.

Now, to the point of this thread.......most Sooner posters I read don't have a clue where the kid is going, just like everyone on this board. I'd expect he's conflicted as well. We'll see soon enough.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

Boy, there's a lot of wild speculation and opinion in this thread about OU, our HC, and the Big 12. If the conference is a joke, then please explain to me why your own TIDEFANS.COM pre-season poll ranks 4 Big 12 teams in the top 15, 2nd only to 5 from the SEC?

Saying Bob Stoops will be going to TOSU because he's originally from Youngstown Ohio is a real stretch. I mean, Bud Wilkinson was from Minnesota. Barry Switzer was from Arkansas. Please! Stoops isn't going anywhere and he's certainly not going to a program that's about to get bent over by the NCAA.

Revenue wise, the conference just signed a $300 million dollar deal with Fox and it's ESPN contract will come up for renewal in the not too distant future. OU is working on it's own TV network. Now, clearly, we will never reach a revenue stream @ the level of Texas but we've certainly been able to compete regardless. Our athletic program is self-sustaining and does not need support from the university general fund.

Now, to the point of this thread.......most Sooner posters I read don't have a clue where the kid is going, just like everyone on this board. I'd expect he's conflicted as well. We'll see soon enough.

because polls are often wrong. personally i only think 1 big 12 team belongs in the top 25 the rest are underachievers. JMHO

 

[Tide Warrior]

I think most people do realize that his brother is a QB at Indiana, even Bill King who said he thinks Kiel will choose Indiana knows that. There is a current Internet rumor from an OU poster supposedly in the know, that Kiel is going to choose OU sometime soon. I am still optimistic that he will pick Bama but right now who knows what he will do?

Here is the latest public info about Kiel's recruitment.

Highly-touted quarterback Kiel talks recruiting | High school sports blog | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com

I love OUs people in the know because this would be the 2nd time that he was commiting to them and that also counts the same people in the know on their board that he was commiting to us.

The one thing I know for sure we must have the best in the know people in CFB. First a OU in the know person starts a rumor and gives the credit to reading off a UA board(WoolyAl). Now the Mizzou boards have a rumor going around that Gunner is visiting Mizzou today because it was posted on a UA board from someone in the know. Apparantly this UA poster knows the Mizzou coaches and they told him Gunner was visiting.


This is coming from insiders on an Alabama board so take it or leave it but the source said they've spoken with mizzou's coaching staff and they said he would be visiting.

Missouri Tigers Athletics :: Mizzou College Sports :: TigerBoard.com :: Gunner Kiel to visit Mizzou this Friday


If is he visiting Mizzou, which would make sense because he himself said he would before he commited to anyone because he wanted to see all the schools again, than the OU in the know people are wrong once again about him commiting.

Go to love recruiting and inside soources.8)

 

[Tide Warrior]

Boy, there's a lot of wild speculation and opinion in this thread about OU, our HC, and the Big 12. If the conference is a joke, then please explain to me why your own TIDEFANS.COM pre-season poll ranks 4 Big 12 teams in the top 15, 2nd only to 5 from the SEC?

Saying Bob Stoops will be going to TOSU because he's originally from Youngstown Ohio is a real stretch. I mean, Bud Wilkinson was from Minnesota. Barry Switzer was from Arkansas. Please! Stoops isn't going anywhere and he's certainly not going to a program that's about to get bent over by the NCAA.

Revenue wise, the conference just signed a $300 million dollar deal with Fox and it's ESPN contract will come up for renewal in the not too distant future. OU is working on it's own TV network. Now, clearly, we will never reach a revenue stream @ the level of Texas but we've certainly been able to compete regardless. Our athletic program is self-sustaining and does not need support from the university general fund.

Now, to the point of this thread.......most Sooner posters I read don't have a clue where the kid is going, just like everyone on this board. I'd expect he's conflicted as well. We'll see soon enough.

If you want speculation on Gunners recruitment go read the OU boards and when you go take some meds for their readers because they are so up and down with his recruitment it is like reading clinical study for the psychotic.

In regards to the polls, the Big 12 probably has 3 top 25 teams but OU is the only one that is legit. I mean OSu and aTm have potential but there is only about 7 teams in the country that really have a legit shot of playing in the BCSCG. One being OU which to me would be a shock if they are not there this year. The SEC west has 3 and after that it maybe FSU, Oregon, and Neb only if the SEC west champion has more than 1 loss and 1 of those 3 go undefeated.

 

[playball31580]

I love OUs people in the know because this would be the 2nd time that he was commiting to them and that also counts the same people in the know on their board that he was commiting to us.

The one thing I know for sure we must have the best in the know people in CFB. First a OU in the know person starts a rumor and gives the credit to reading off a UA board(WoolyAl). Now the Mizzou boards have a rumor going around that Gunner is visiting Mizzou today because it was posted on a UA board from someone in the know. Apparantly this UA poster knows the Mizzou coaches and they told him Gunner was visiting.


This is coming from insiders on an Alabama board so take it or leave it but the source said they've spoken with mizzou's coaching staff and they said he would be visiting.

Missouri Tigers Athletics :: Mizzou College Sports :: TigerBoard.com :: Gunner Kiel to visit Mizzou this Friday


If is he visiting Mizzou, which would make sense because he himself said he would before he commited to anyone because he wanted to see all the schools again, than the OU in the know people are wrong once again about him commiting.

Go to love recruiting and inside soources.8)

I'm from Missouri (St. Louis area) and it really doesn't surprise me that Gunner is looking into Mizzou again. As he has talked about it before, the distance could be a factor for him and we all know Norman is a long drive from his Indiana home. Columbia, MO is like a hour farther than Tuscaloosa. Mizzou has somehow produced solid QB's in the past decade in Brad Smith, Chase Daniel and Blaine Gabbert. I don't have inside sources or anything, but I think he will narrow is choices down to Mizzou or Alabama. No way he's going to Indiana and take his older brother's starting spot at QB. OU is too far for him. He's got a really good shot to be a 3 year starter at Mizzou if he goes there. Then there is Alabama, as he can go there if he's that serious wanting to win championships and really further his development for a future solid NFL career under Saban's watch. He can possibly be a 3 year starter as well if he's that good, especially if he redshirts next year since we'll still have McCarron and Sims still under the helm. Just my two cents on what his thoughts could be at this time......I still think he rolls with Bama!!:biggrin2::biggrin2: