ADMIN NOTE: Question about board content

bayoutider

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How wide open would you guys like this forum? We will not allow porn or death threats but if more of the milder content was put on The Strip how far would you want this forum to stretch its limits? Be advised that if we do stretch the boundaries it will become more futile to pm or mail us with complaints about ol nutcase saying something in the forum. Give us a little input so Brett can look at the possibilities.
 

gmart74

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i like it just how it is. i like how we can write POS or make inferences to cusswords but not openly drag this forum into the mud. i say that as someone who really cant be offended and i have gutter humor as well. what im afraid of is this board turning into something similar to what we have here in baltimore. if you want to see outright stupidity that kills even a chance of rational debate, go to Baltimore Sun breaking news, sports, weather and traffic in Baltimore - baltimoresun.com and look in their local and national forums. i dare you to find a single thread that isnt moronic within 10 posts. please dont let this forum ever even approach their level of stupidity.

on a side note- one of the problems i have is with posters who jump into threads, make insults or bait people into insulting them, and then run like crybabies to the mods. i have a couple names that immediately pop into my head and i have gotten pm's from mods about insulting the little babies. basically i would like the mods to ban the wusses who like to fling a mud and then whine when they get it back. it is amazing that we have adults on here who feel it is their duty to cry to the mods every time people disagree with them or call them the spineless idiots they are. that being said, i do like how ya'll crack down on mindless sparring that people sometimes get caught up in.
 
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Tidewater

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How wide open would you guys like this forum? We will not allow porn or death threats but if more of the milder content was put on The Strip how far would you want this forum to stretch its limits? Be advised that if we do stretch the boundaries it will become more futile to pm or mail us with complaints about ol nutcase saying something in the forum. Give us a little input so Brett can look at the possibilities.
I like it the way it is.
I see no need to change anything (but then again, I see no need to change anything ever).
 

bayoutider

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it is amazing that we have adults on here who feel it is their duty to cry to the mods every time people disagree with them or call them the spineless idiots they are. that being said, i do like how ya'll crack down on mindless sparring that people sometimes get caught up in.
We have those who cry to the mods and those who cry about the mods so we catch it from both sides. Its something we get used to over the years but we are always looking for ways to keep a majority happy. :)

We are not going to fire all our mods and I am not going to have a crushed glass enema tonight. ;)
 

swoop10

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We have those who cry to the mods and those who cry about the mods so we catch it from both sides. Its something we get used to over the years but we are always looking for ways to keep a majority happy. :)

We are not going to fire all our mods and I am not going to have a crushed glass enema tonight. ;)
I don't really have a problem either way. I don't really want the cuss words but as Gmart pointed out abreviations don't bother me. Name calling is something that I don't necessarily like but as long as the person doing the name calling can take it, it's okay with me.
 

Islander

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I very seldom post on the strip, but always read it. If some want a free for all board, why not start a new one and leave this as it is.
 

rizolltizide

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Eh, I don't know. I guess it all depends on what it is your looking for. What you don't want to have is simply a flame war 24/7, but by the same token you don't want this place to be as boring as watching paint dry either. I like dishing it out, but I don't mind taking it in return, some people aren't wired like that. I also recognize that we ain't solving the world's problems here whereas I don't think some others do.

I guess I wish things were a little looser, and I wish gmart would show us pics of his roommate. Hint, hint.
 

Bama Reb

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I'm really appreciate you starting this thread. It provides an opportunity for us to express our concerns, and I am truly thankful for that.

I would like for the mods to not use their personal opinions on a particular subject to chastise or punish a member solely because that member expresses an opinion different from their own. Or worse, to close an otherwise productive thread entirely because he or she disagrees with the opinions expressed on such thread.

I think mods, when engaging as a participant in a discussion, should act either as a debating member OR a moderator. But don't use your authority as a moderator to punish me just because you disagree with what I have to say.
I just think certain moderators could use a little more restraint along these lines.

I'm not asking you to condone nudity in pictures or videos, to accept profanity in language or to go outside the boundaries of civil morality. I'm glad you keep those things in check. On one hand I do think that any member who openly launches a personal attack on another individual by calling them names or vilifying their character should be punished, and harshly. But at the same time I want to be able express my personal opinion on matters that concern me without having to parse my words because I'm supposed to fear your reprisal or reprimand. JMHO
 

Boclive

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The boss may not always be right in the Non-Sports forum, but he's always the boss. Tighten this forum the rest of the way down. :rolleyes:
 

PacadermaTideUs

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I don't participate in this forum very much, so my opinion should not carry nearly the weight of those who do. That said, the primary reason I don't participate too much in this forum is its very potential for volatility. It's not that I don't carry strong feelings and beliefs about various issues. Believe me - I do. It's just that over the years, I've never once seen someone's mind changed on a politically charged issue, no matter how shrill the argument gets, on either side of the argument.

I am not new to TideFans. I've been a member (and posting) off and on for around 10 years. Due partly to the demands of my profession and partly to occasional prolonged disinterest, I've let several memberships and/or passwords lapse or get forgotten. Hence, this incarnation's only recent join-date.

I used to post quite frequently in Non-Sports and enter into the fray. But again, I've never seen an opinion change. The same is true for my experiences offline. My brother and I are diametrically opposed in our political and socio-economical views. He constantly wants to debate and discuss these controversial issues. I am constantly trying to stiff-arm the debate. It's only led to argument, resentment and frustration. I'd rather just spend time with him as the brother that I love and as a fellow devoted Alabama fan.

So no - I'd rather not see the limits expanded here. For what, exactly? Will a louder voice somehow promote a more meaningful discussion or a better chance of finding agreement or common ground? I seriously doubt it. In my opinion and in my experience, in the arena of controversy, more latitude only leads to less civility.

But as I said: I already don't really participate in the controversial threads, primarily because of the risk/reward ratio that already exists in Non-Sports: high risk of tempers flaring, low chance of the reward of actually solving anything. So my opinion really doesn't matter too much in this case.
 

Crimson Speed

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I'm really appreciate you starting this thread. It provides an opportunity for us to express our concerns, and I am truly thankful for that.

I would like for the mods to not use their personal opinions on a particular subject to chastise or punish a member solely because that member expresses an opinion different from their own. Or worse, to close an otherwise productive thread entirely because he or she disagrees with the opinions expressed on such thread.

I think mods, when engaging as a participant in a discussion, should act either as a debating member OR a moderator. But don't use your authority as a moderator to punish me just because you disagree with what I have to say.
I just think certain moderators could use a little more restraint along these lines.

I'm not asking you to condone nudity in pictures or videos, to accept profanity in language or to go outside the boundaries of civil morality. I'm glad you keep those things in check. On one hand I do think that any member who openly launches a personal attack on another individual by calling them names or vilifying their character should be punished, and harshly. But at the same time I want to be able express my personal opinion on matters that concern me without having to parse my words because I'm supposed to fear your reprisal or reprimand. JMHO
I agree with with your opinion. I don't want to see this forum loosened up to include profanity, porn, or nudity. There are plenty of other places on the internet for those pursuits.

Suggestion about the Mods jumping in on posts. Perhaps it would be better to have them only function as moderators and forgo their personal opinion. It keeps them neutral. I would suggest they think about having two different call names; one for moderation and a second one for expressing their opinion and entering into the fray.
But, I'm not complaining about the Mods; they do a great job of keeping it civil. I remain convinced that Tidefans is the best forum in existence and they deserve the credit.
 

KrAzY3

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I would like for the mods to not use their personal opinions on a particular subject to chastise or punish a member solely because that member expresses an opinion different from their own. Or worse, to close an otherwise productive thread entirely because he or she disagrees with the opinions expressed on such thread.

I think mods, when engaging as a participant in a discussion, should act either as a debating member OR a moderator. But don't use your authority as a moderator to punish me just because you disagree with what I have to say.
I just think certain moderators could use a little more restraint along these lines.
I have to preface this by saying that I don't think I've had a problem with a mod in particular closing my topics or the like. However, I did have a problem with my perception of a moderators role in a discussion. I once ran a site in which I was highly opinionated and I happened to be the admin. However, I banned one or two people out of 10,000 and I don't know if I ever closed a topic. I think that is a area of concern I had once, either the moderators actually moderate or it needs to be made more clear that the moderators are not just like the rest of us when it comes to discussing a topic. If I post something and I feel a moderator is being condescending, I take it as more of a affront than I would from someone else because they are in the position of authority.

Having said all that, I think it's more of a issue of moderators moving topics or closing topics according to their personal feelings in the Football forum than what I've noticed here. In the board sense, I think making the moderators role clearer in all regards would probably be helpful. I'm the type of suspect authority because I feel authority over others brings with it the responsibility to be increasingly tolerant and cautious not to abuse that authority. So... take my opinion with a grain of salt.

As far as content, this site is kind of a weird place to be because I'm usually a foul mouthed little cretin. During the Mike Shula era I was banned because I not only repeatedly bashed Shula but I said the magic words (something along the lines if you don't like what I have to say ban me). I feel entirely justified in my opinion but I think I've learned to deal with the level of civility this site expects.

The only issue I had since then was (in the middle of a discussion) my questioning the credentials of a moderator. I could have conducted myself better but that does go back to the role of moderators as well. Are personal attacks allowed at all? Are moderators held to standards like a Windsor Guard? Perhaps if they are participating in a discussion do they set their authority aside?

I'd like a little more freedom of expression, but to be honest it feels like asking what I should be able to do in church. If I want to curse and carry on may be I shouldn't be in church... you guys broke my spirit.
 
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