With the ever-advancing medical technologies and procedures, how long might it take for Brodie to rehab? I know reports say "out for the season" but, there are instances where recovery time takes less time than originally predicted. Is anybody on this site a Doctor or maybe just a person with some insight?
Recovery Time for Brodie
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im nowhere near a doctor so dont hold me to this. but for instance brodie's first torn acl in h.s. it happend on their first game of the year which was i think the weekend of bama's first game. brodie wasnt back until the spring i think or longer. im pretty sure we wont see him again this year.
NatSmck said:
Well, it has to do with the patient and serverity of the injury and the extent of the surgery, but Brodie is out for the season, because 2 months isn't long enough of a recovery, and also even if he could be ready for the barn it still wouldn't happen because that risk is HUGE, because at that point he'll still be in rehab and all they'd have to do is knock him once and he could be in worse shape than he was to begin with.
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Well, if...
If it takes 5 months (which is what was reported after his surgery of today) for most to recover (doing rehab, etc of course) - then that would put Brodie in good shape by mid-February - sounds good to me. Brodie is a trooper though & will do all he's supposed to do & more - look for a quick recovery period & a great come-back --- Ya know - we could wind up having 2 MIGHTY FINE qb's next year (both with awesome experience too !)
If it takes 5 months (which is what was reported after his surgery of today) for most to recover (doing rehab, etc of course) - then that would put Brodie in good shape by mid-February - sounds good to me. Brodie is a trooper though & will do all he's supposed to do & more - look for a quick recovery period & a great come-back --- Ya know - we could wind up having 2 MIGHTY FINE qb's next year (both with awesome experience too !)
I've gone through two ACL reconstructions on my left knee and the absolute minimum to full-contact type activities will be 4-5 months, and that is with intensive training and rehab. for most mortals, I think 7-10 months is suggested and that is with consistent rehab and training (not on par with what brodie will get)
the surrounding tissues and such need time to heal as much as you need to restrengthen everything. I had almost all of my strength back and was able to bike (road)/jog/walk after 3 months , but it was 4-5 before I could comfortably mountain bike, and 7 + before I could run with any kind of authority or do any kind of cutting and I was still tentative.
With this being his second one, I think that he may also have to overcome some mental hurdles about cutting on his legs again and worrying about the knee going out again, he may be tentative. That depends on his mindset though.
the surrounding tissues and such need time to heal as much as you need to restrengthen everything. I had almost all of my strength back and was able to bike (road)/jog/walk after 3 months , but it was 4-5 before I could comfortably mountain bike, and 7 + before I could run with any kind of authority or do any kind of cutting and I was still tentative.
With this being his second one, I think that he may also have to overcome some mental hurdles about cutting on his legs again and worrying about the knee going out again, he may be tentative. That depends on his mindset though.
I had the surgery last year....
it takes at least 3 months to heal if he used a donor ligament (which I doubt he did b/c he plays a contact sport and using his own ligament may be stronger). I used a donor ligament and my scar looks like i was scoped. It takes at least 6 months to heal if you use your own ligament because the scar is a lot larger and the donor area has to heal too. He should be fine in a brace to play by Feb/March. He knows what he has to do and I am sure he will work hard.
it takes at least 3 months to heal if he used a donor ligament (which I doubt he did b/c he plays a contact sport and using his own ligament may be stronger). I used a donor ligament and my scar looks like i was scoped. It takes at least 6 months to heal if you use your own ligament because the scar is a lot larger and the donor area has to heal too. He should be fine in a brace to play by Feb/March. He knows what he has to do and I am sure he will work hard.
Seven, to my mind...
is a minimum. I had an auto-hamstring graft. The problem is that the graft is the strongest the day after it's put in, while it's still vibrant and tough - no matter where it comes from, your body or another. Then, over a period of around three months, it withers and becomes progressively weaker, because it has no blood supply. If the body does its job, it starts building a new blood supply to the graft. Meanwhile the graft "ligamentizes" - it becomes harder and more ligament-like. In the range of 7-10 months, it's as strong as it was to begin with (one hopes). At ten months, I was back at 1000 lb in the leg press, probably around 650 at seven months. When I started back at baskeball, even at ten months, the knee felt pretty "shaky." The problem is that the surrounding muscles feel very strong around three months or so, from the rehab, but the graft, inside, is at its weakest. That's when a lot of grafts, particularly on kids, get blown. There's only so much that the process can be hurried. Extra rehab and resistance exercises won't do it - it's like pushing on a string...Any eyes glazed over out there yet?
is a minimum. I had an auto-hamstring graft. The problem is that the graft is the strongest the day after it's put in, while it's still vibrant and tough - no matter where it comes from, your body or another. Then, over a period of around three months, it withers and becomes progressively weaker, because it has no blood supply. If the body does its job, it starts building a new blood supply to the graft. Meanwhile the graft "ligamentizes" - it becomes harder and more ligament-like. In the range of 7-10 months, it's as strong as it was to begin with (one hopes). At ten months, I was back at 1000 lb in the leg press, probably around 650 at seven months. When I started back at baskeball, even at ten months, the knee felt pretty "shaky." The problem is that the surrounding muscles feel very strong around three months or so, from the rehab, but the graft, inside, is at its weakest. That's when a lot of grafts, particularly on kids, get blown. There's only so much that the process can be hurried. Extra rehab and resistance exercises won't do it - it's like pushing on a string...Any eyes glazed over out there yet?
Brodie wil play again this season. By the way, I'm not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! 
You think the hindsight lurkers are vocal now, image the scutiny Coach Shula would receive if he put Brodie in at the end of the year and he got re-injured.
Don't count on seeing Brodie this year, even if he begs and pleads to play. Better to heal completely than risk further injury.
Don't count on seeing Brodie this year, even if he begs and pleads to play. Better to heal completely than risk further injury.
I'm a doctor
I'm not an orthopedist, but I did the typical clinical rotations during medical school and internship and surgical repair of a torn ACL or PCL usually takes 4-6 months. That time frame applies to uncomplicated cases where the patient is dilligent about physical therapy and follows doctor's orders closely (i.e. not doing too much or too little). The average person can take a few months longer to get back to full strength. I figure Brodie will likely be feeling very good by the new year and will be back to full strength by the time Spring training rolls around.
I'm not an orthopedist, but I did the typical clinical rotations during medical school and internship and surgical repair of a torn ACL or PCL usually takes 4-6 months. That time frame applies to uncomplicated cases where the patient is dilligent about physical therapy and follows doctor's orders closely (i.e. not doing too much or too little). The average person can take a few months longer to get back to full strength. I figure Brodie will likely be feeling very good by the new year and will be back to full strength by the time Spring training rolls around.
His Doctor said he would be ready in 5 months which is perfect for spring. He based that on the last surgery and his ability to rehab. Bi-Lateral ACLs are very tough to overcome but Jason White made the comeback and I'm betting on BC to do the same!
rolltide...
You better look at that bill again. Somebody suckered you into a Motel Six - and you paid for a HIX...
You better look at that bill again. Somebody suckered you into a Motel Six - and you paid for a HIX...
TIDE-HSV said:You better look at that bill again. Somebody suckered you into a Motel Six - and you paid for a HIX...
Not a whole lotta difference!
Savannah...
I regard five months as being extremely optimistic - and there's a lot of literature out there to back up what I'm saying. OTOH, most athletes get forced back into competition before their knees are ready, anyway - because of exuberant optimism. Too frequently, their medical advisers get "caught in the middle" also. Over the last several years, we've had a number of notable of examples of that...
I regard five months as being extremely optimistic - and there's a lot of literature out there to back up what I'm saying. OTOH, most athletes get forced back into competition before their knees are ready, anyway - because of exuberant optimism. Too frequently, their medical advisers get "caught in the middle" also. Over the last several years, we've had a number of notable of examples of that...
TIDE-HSV said:
You'll notice I said 4-6 months for uncomplicated cases and patients who do exactly what their docs tell them to do. I agree that sometimes athletes push themselves and their doctors into shortening the recovery period. Bottom line is that Brodie is healthy and has the advantages of youth and athleticism on his side. Surgical repair and physical therapy done right will result in a good outcome for him. Having been through this once before, he's got experience on his side as well. Barring unforeseen setbacks we'll have him back to full strength in the Spring.
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