Running Back Discussion for 2019

[BamaMoon]

He is a RB and that is what he will play, but like some have said we can use him a lot like Jacobs and line him up in the slot at times. Major mis-match on LB's and safeties.

Or Drake....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CFvMWeFyUM

 

[bamaga]

No RBs in the transfer portal?? I mean, recruiting has changed!

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Im psyched for the harris robinson combo. I dont expect any dropoff from last year. These guys have a style maybe more conducive to the power/play-action game which I think we got too far away from recently . When we need a yard we need to know we can get it. Cant be Tua doing everything to save the day himself next year.

 

[rgw]

I think we need to bring back the under-center offense. Tua has shown a devastating play action fake when asked to do it from the dropback. I like all the shotgun RPO stuff because it is almost like free money at times. Still, we really could've used that power run mentality at times this past season and the results when we tried were lacking. There is a reason why Jacobs Wildcat was our short yardage package outside of goal to go (where we still had spacing to run a trick play other than the jump pass).

 

[bamacon]

The last time we showed the tendency to just ground it out was when Bo broke his leg vs Clemson...... oh and that was Sark calling plays.

Yup and he was beginning to skulldrag them. Personally I think we win that game if Bo doesn't get hurt.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

I think we need to bring back the under-center offense. Tua has shown a devastating play action fake when asked to do it from the dropback. I like all the shotgun RPO stuff because it is almost like free money at times. Still, we really could've used that power run mentality at times this past season and the results when we tried were lacking. There is a reason why Jacobs Wildcat was our short yardage package outside of goal to go (where we still had spacing to run a trick play other than the jump pass).

Not happening. Offense will still stay the same.

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[bamacon]

I think we need to bring back the under-center offense. Tua has shown a devastating play action fake when asked to do it from the dropback. I like all the shotgun RPO stuff because it is almost like free money at times. Still, we really could've used that power run mentality at times this past season and the results when we tried were lacking. There is a reason why Jacobs Wildcat was our short yardage package outside of goal to go (where we still had spacing to run a trick play other than the jump pass).

I'm thinking the NCG will make that a reality. Ball control and taking the spirit from a defense really is more effective than the fun and gun if you ask me. It was like the Saints offense last year. If it is on it's so fun and great, but if it's off just a little it can have a total collapse. See the NCG and the Dallas game for the Saints. Lots of similarities.

 

[rgw]

You still can't get out-physical'd in this sport. We can talk about Clemson spending a lot of prep on us but they were physically dominating us on both sides of the LOS. They didn't get under center much either but the power run mentality has got to be there. Need to spend a bit more time on the under center stuff if we're gonna use it because it was not great in terms of execution down the stretch. Penalties, missed blocks, other weird snafus. And like I said, Tua has a pretty nasty play action fake on the dropback handoff. It can be a weapon when deployed tactically but the ability to run out of those formations has got to be there for it to work consistently.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

The other problem is that any defense will get exposed with enough reps. Ball control on O is important. Can still throw it around but you need to grind em down too.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Re: Runnng Back Discussion for 2019

Well when he was a true freshman I saw real power in his running, kind of like Jacobs, but this past year not so much. Now that might be due to several factors. One our OL was somewhat of a disappointment when it comes to run blocking, two, he was usually behind those who couldn't beat THOSE offensive lineman out, and three sometimes in year two a player gains a little size via muscle and for running backs sometimes they regress in year two and then finally round out to top form in year three.

Or perhaps he's just not as good as you think, or I'm a blind fool.

Keep in mind we were supposed to wipe the floor with Clemson so I'm not in the mood to believe the sky is always blue.

Our Running Backs and Quarterbacks were done a disservice by our OL.
Half the time at the end of the season Tua had about a 2 count before the Defense was in our backfield.
I yearn for the days of an OL who could push the Defense back 2-4 yards, and allow us to make a 1st down, or TD.
Those were OL's who could keep a drive going...

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Re: Runnng Back Discussion for 2019

If used correctly, he won't need it. Alabama needs some smashmouth football, open field runs are nice and all, but short yards when needed are more important.

That's the kind of runs that extends drives.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Re: Runnng Back Discussion for 2019

Context is required here. Speed to weight ratio Najee might be the fastest of all RBs we've had. We're talking about a RB that's 6'3 and weighs about 230 lbs. Henry ran a 4.72 40 coming out of high school and N Harris ran a 4.66. IIRC Henry ran a laser timed 4.54 at the NFL combine so if you extrapolate that same increase to N Harris he's probably running somewhere in the 4.5 range which is ridiculous for someone his size. I agree with you that I figured Najee would have busted a few long runs at this point but it very well could just be mental processing that's holding him back rather than ability. He had some really good runs against Clemson and I think he will put it all together this year..

I think our long runs were hindered by our OL.
They didn't get a push. They looked manhandled toward the later half of our season.
IMO: If we can make a hole for Najee, we might be surprised what he can do.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Re: Runnng Back Discussion for 2019

I agree, but Metchie and Battle both seem a little small right now for KO returns.

Both will benefit from Scotts physical regimine, and the proper nutrition program.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Re: Runnng Back Discussion for 2019

For the life of me, I can't figure out why he wasn't used more in the NC game. He was running hard when he was in the game. And since the game was in his part of the country, he was extra motivated. We missed a big opportunity to capitalize on that.

IMO: Poor play calling by our OC.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

What I'm wondering about at RB is if Trey Sanders will be patient and be willing to accept a limited role for a while. He talked like he wanted to try and win the Heisman as a freshman. I don't know how serious he was with those comments but if he expects to step right in and be the feature RB he's probably going to be disappointed.

If Sanders is good enough to break into our RB rotation,
he can show the world what he can do, if not good enough...
It will not matter.

 

[CajunCrimson]

I think we need to bring back the under-center offense. Tua has shown a devastating play action fake when asked to do it from the dropback. I like all the shotgun RPO stuff because it is almost like free money at times. Still, we really could've used that power run mentality at times this past season and the results when we tried were lacking. There is a reason why Jacobs Wildcat was our short yardage package outside of goal to go (where we still had spacing to run a trick play other than the jump pass).

Why slow down his decision making strength? Putting him under center slows down the offense.

 

[Intl.Aperture]

Re: Runnng Back Discussion for 2019

Context is required here. Speed to weight ratio Najee might be the fastest of all RBs we've had. We're talking about a RB that's 6'3 and weighs about 230 lbs. Henry ran a 4.72 40 coming out of high school and N Harris ran a 4.66. IIRC Henry ran a laser timed 4.54 at the NFL combine so if you extrapolate that same increase to N Harris he's probably running somewhere in the 4.5 range which is ridiculous for someone his size. I agree with you that I figured Najee would have busted a few long runs at this point but it very well could just be mental processing that's holding him back rather than ability. He had some really good runs against Clemson and I think he will put it all together this year..

No that title still belongs to Derrick Henry at 245 running a 4.5 40. Not to mention at various points he's been clocked as the fastest player in the NFL on certain given weeks. Think about that for a moment.
Not slamming, Najee, but Derrick Henry by far has the largest speed to weight ratio. He flat ran away from people even if they were taking decent angles. 40 times are really overrated for this sort of thing as sprinting is a different technique than running in pads with a ball in you hand. Derrick Henry is a freak of nature. Najee is very good, but I doubt he's ever even as fast as Henry and he's not nearly as big.

 

[CrimSonami]

If Sanders is good enough to break into our RB rotation,
he can show the world what he can do, if not good enough...
It will not matter.

He's good enough. And he will. Don't think it'll be Heisman worthy, as he boldly stated, but he'll progressively contribute if he gets properly adjusted to the competition level and adopts the "Josh Jacobs Work Ethic" program.

 

[bamacon]

UA should be a haven for top shelf rbs. When you think about it the very best rbs should appreciate not getting the mileage that RBs of the past used to get. I know you want to play but from the future career aspect of it you really can’t find a better place to learn, grow, and one day master the duties of a top back. It’s clear we’ve done a great job of making sure the RBs leave the program ready for Sunday.


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[XXIII]

I'd love to see some packages with Waddle as RB or Wildcat. Such an electric play-maker; hope we find even more ways to get him the ball next season.