Saban a serious candidate for LSU?

[CrimsonCleanse]

I remember that Labor day night game that was Belichick's debut at UNC and his first ever game as a college head coach. I actually felt bad for the guy. I would NOT want to see that be Saban

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I wonder if Alabama possibly wins those games knowing they mattered. I wasn't alive then so no idea how things were done. However, it was my understanding that some coaches treated bowl games as an exhibition game and not a game where the stakes were high. Did Coach Bryant experiment in those games? Did he play them like every game?

Yes.

The 1964 team benefited from Notre Dame imploding against USC was my larger point. As far as the loss, we played to win (ever know Bryant to do otherwise?) but the complaint of MANY coaches with using the bowl games as a barometer was the fact you sometimes had 5-6 weeks off, and it was always easier for an underdog to get motivated than a favorite, particularly one that had won the championship already.

We got lucky in 1965 simply because people got mad about the result in 1964. Had they accepted it like when it happened three previous times, Alabama would not have a 1965 earned banner on their stadium.

As far as 1973, it's still nothing but a pile of excuses from Alabama fans to suggest the outcome is different with Notre Dame "because we were already champions." What play would we run differently? In 1973, that Clements to Weber pass on third down at his own two was incredibly gutsy by Parseghian. What are Alabama fans suggesting, if we hadn't already been crowned champions we would have played a different defense?

It's not wrong to say Notre Dame had MORE incentive as far as the AP national championship (maybe), but for Pete's sake this was the first-ever matchup of the two most glorious teams in CFB and the idea that Bryant wanted anything less than a win is asinine at best and disingenuous at worst.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

He could possibly tarnish his legacy by going 8-4 for 3 straight years and just end up "stepping down".

While Coach Bryant didn't by any stretch tarnish his legacy, he also didn't hang around to do so. The 1982 implosion when we had been ranked #2 in the country was the sign he needed to move on with (sadly) what was left of his life.

Pat Dye's theory was always that Bryant's decision to retire was enhanced when he lost recruit Ben Tamburello to Dye at Auburn. Supposedly, Bryant met with Tamburello (unanimous All-American and SEC Lineman of the Year in 1986) between the USM debacle and the Iron Bowl and.....wasn't the most friendly guy to the recruit. It's been held out as a sort of sign of "can't beat them, can't out recruit them anymore, either", so he called it quits.

Dye, of course, did what any self-respecting coach would do: since Bryant (by state law) had to retire after the 1983 season, he went around the state saying, "Coach ain't gonna be there when you get there" to land his big haul.

 

[CrimsonCleanse]

For clarification, when Saban said "I will not be the coach at Alabama" back in late 2006, he honestly didn't think he would be at that point. As someone pointed out, that was before Mal made the trip down to South Beach

 

[TideEngineer08]

Yes.

The 1964 team benefited from Notre Dame imploding against USC was my larger point. As far as the loss, we played to win (ever know Bryant to do otherwise?) but the complaint of MANY coaches with using the bowl games as a barometer was the fact you sometimes had 5-6 weeks off, and it was always easier for an underdog to get motivated than a favorite, particularly one that had won the championship already.

We got lucky in 1965 simply because people got mad about the result in 1964. Had they accepted it like when it happened three previous times, Alabama would not have a 1965 earned banner on their stadium.

As far as 1973, it's still nothing but a pile of excuses from Alabama fans to suggest the outcome is different with Notre Dame "because we were already champions." What play would we run differently? In 1973, that Clements to Weber pass on third down at his own two was incredibly gutsy by Parseghian. What are Alabama fans suggesting, if we hadn't already been crowned champions we would have played a different defense?

It's not wrong to say Notre Dame had MORE incentive as far as the AP national championship (maybe), but for Pete's sake this was the first-ever matchup of the two most glorious teams in CFB and the idea that Bryant wanted anything less than a win is asinine at best and disingenuous at worst.

Coach Bryant “played to win the game” to quote the great Herm Edwards.

The Texas loss in 1964 and the Notre Dame in 1973 were both great games in which both teams fought their guts out and in which Alabama players and coaches were devestated from losing.

 

[FaninLA]

Yes.

The 1964 team benefited from Notre Dame imploding against USC was my larger point. As far as the loss, we played to win (ever know Bryant to do otherwise?) but the complaint of MANY coaches with using the bowl games as a barometer was the fact you sometimes had 5-6 weeks off, and it was always easier for an underdog to get motivated than a favorite, particularly one that had won the championship already.

We got lucky in 1965 simply because people got mad about the result in 1964. Had they accepted it like when it happened three previous times, Alabama would not have a 1965 earned banner on their stadium.

As far as 1973, it's still nothing but a pile of excuses from Alabama fans to suggest the outcome is different with Notre Dame "because we were already champions." What play would we run differently? In 1973, that Clements to Weber pass on third down at his own two was incredibly gutsy by Parseghian. What are Alabama fans suggesting, if we hadn't already been crowned champions we would have played a different defense?

It's not wrong to say Notre Dame had MORE incentive as far as the AP national championship (maybe), but for Pete's sake this was the first-ever matchup of the two most glorious teams in CFB and the idea that Bryant wanted anything less than a win is asinine at best and disingenuous at worst.

As a fourteen-year-old, at the time, I almost cried at the end of that game.

 

[Smoovee7]

No please stop with these "Saban getting back into coaching" posts, let the man be retired. He left because kids only care about how much they were gonna get paid and he was tired of the grind. He literally said he was wore out in his final season at Bama.

 

[crimsonaudio]

No please stop with these "Saban getting back into coaching" posts, let the man be retired. He left because kids only care about how much they were gonna get paid and he was tired of the grind. He literally said he was wore out in his final season at Bama.

It's a discussion forum.

Literally nothing posted here will determine what Saban does.

 

[bamamc1]

No please stop with these "Saban getting back into coaching" posts, let the man be retired. He left because kids only care about how much they were gonna get paid and he was tired of the grind. He literally said he was wore out in his final season at Bama.

Ms Terry, thank you for joining tidefans

 

[bamamc1]

While Coach Bryant didn't by any stretch tarnish his legacy, he also didn't hang around to do so. The 1982 implosion when we had been ranked #2 in the country was the sign he needed to move on with (sadly) what was left of his life.

Pat Dye's theory was always that Bryant's decision to retire was enhanced when he lost recruit Ben Tamburello to Dye at Auburn. Supposedly, Bryant met with Tamburello (unanimous All-American and SEC Lineman of the Year in 1986) between the USM debacle and the Iron Bowl and.....wasn't the most friendly guy to the recruit. It's been held out as a sort of sign of "can't beat them, can't out recruit them anymore, either", so he called it quits.

Dye, of course, did what any self-respecting coach would do: since Bryant (by state law) had to retire after the 1983 season, he went around the state saying, "Coach ain't gonna be there when you get there" to land his big haul.

Selma, you need to do a podcast with Mr Earle regarding Alabama athletics. I say this with all sincerity. The knowledge you guys possess concerning Alabama athletics is unparalleled.

 

[Power Eye]

Color me skeptical that CNS will ever coach again, but if he should, even at LSU, I would never begrudge him anything after what he did for Alabama.

Definitely wouldn’t begrudge him for the reasons you state, but it would be disappointing since he’s still an ambassador for us, our field is named after him, and seems to have truly become a Bama guy. There’s a certain pride in knowing he’s one of ours, and retired as such.