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Can't link it directly.....has a few words.....this is the channel:


- RB's hurt in pass pro

- Grubb didn't help Ty out

- Lots of pass pro busts (obviously)

- Numerous times we've got the numbers on OL blocks and one guy just isn't blocking anybody.

- A few times where Ty was lucky not to have his knee blown out.

- Bunch formations we aren't getting the ball out fast enough

- Ty holding onto the ball just a bit too long

- Says stop using the TE to chip and release....just keep him in to block.

- This guy thinks Auburn was shocked Bama went for it on 4th and 2 and didn't have a good call in...lots of defensive confusion.

- Thinks Horton was the 4th WR on the 4th and 2 play, but Auburn was so confused they were rushing 3 and never got pressure.

- Sloppy game overall....lack of basic fundamentals

- Coleman's fumble....he never tucked the ball tight.

- Brooks, on the muffed punt....had 2 chances to fall on the ball, but he tried to scoop it and the ball went out of bounds.

- Fundamentals disappearing in this era of football

- Bama's snap count....the OG tapping the C....makes it too easy for the defense to time up the snap. Stopped doing that in the 2nd half and went to Ty clapping.

- Why didn't Grubb have Ty just don't the claps for the snap to begin with.
 
Can't link it directly.....has a few words.....this is the channel:


- RB's hurt in pass pro

- Grubb didn't help Ty out

- Lots of pass pro busts (obviously)

- Numerous times we've got the numbers on OL blocks and one guy just isn't blocking anybody.

- A few times where Ty was lucky not to have his knee blown out.

- Bunch formations we aren't getting the ball out fast enough

- Ty holding onto the ball just a bit too long

- Says stop using the TE to chip and release....just keep him in to block.

- This guy thinks Auburn was shocked Bama went for it on 4th and 2 and didn't have a good call in...lots of defensive confusion.

- Thinks Horton was the 4th WR on the 4th and 2 play, but Auburn was so confused they were rushing 3 and never got pressure.

- Sloppy game overall....lack of basic fundamentals

- Coleman's fumble....he never tucked the ball tight.

- Brooks, on the muffed punt....had 2 chances to fall on the ball, but he tried to scoop it and the ball went out of bounds.

- Fundamentals disappearing in this era of football

- Bama's snap count....the OG tapping the C....makes it too easy for the defense to time up the snap. Stopped doing that in the 2nd half and went to Ty clapping.

- Why didn't Grubb have Ty just don't the claps for the snap to begin with.

…and we got out of the voodoo palace w/a W!!!
 
"- Bama's snap count....the OG tapping the C....makes it too easy for the defense to time up the snap. Stopped doing that in the 2nd half and went to Ty clapping."

You do watch NFL games on Sundays, right? This is pretty much the norm now. Don't disagree that it gives somewhat of a tipoff to the D-Line but there are nuances to the timing that a team can use to not be totally predictable. Remember the D-Line is looking for a split-second advantage. Literally one step. I asked my son about this who has played Center all his life at a very high level and he confirmed that it doesn't give the D line near the advantage that one would think.
 
I don't know if anyone else here has seen it but there has been a lot of negative talk about Grubb from Seahawks people recently. Not all of it is concrete but it does make me wonder a bit since some of the criticism is similar to how I have felt about him.

Also, would definitely agree with our RBs failing in pass blocking. It's been horrific all year. We may need a new RB coach or something.
 
Can't link it directly.....has a few words.....this is the channel:


- RB's hurt in pass pro

- Grubb didn't help Ty out

- Lots of pass pro busts (obviously)

- Numerous times we've got the numbers on OL blocks and one guy just isn't blocking anybody.

- A few times where Ty was lucky not to have his knee blown out.

- Bunch formations we aren't getting the ball out fast enough
This is the one that bothered me the most and the one I see the most often. We'd have the numbers on the OL and still have a free rusher. I wonder if we have some guys who have the physical ability but simply can't connect it between the ears during games? I'm not saying anyone is "dumb", I'm just saying I've seen this type of stuff ALL SEASON LONG, where guys are just making obvious mistakes on reads and assignments. You get to a point as a coach where you can coach, coach and coach and there are players who simply can't mentally "get it" during games. We're still making WAAAAY too many fundamental mistakes on the OL for this late in the season.
 
This is the one that bothered me the most and the one I see the most often. We'd have the numbers on the OL and still have a free rusher. I wonder if we have some guys who have the physical ability but simply can't connect it between the ears during games? I'm not saying anyone is "dumb", I'm just saying I've seen this type of stuff ALL SEASON LONG, where guys are just making obvious mistakes on reads and assignments. You get to a point as a coach where you can coach, coach and coach and there are players who simply can't mentally "get it" during games. We're still making WAAAAY too many fundamental mistakes on the OL for this late in the season.
Always players like that. Think it’s partly bad coaching and also partly on QB for making so many late late late checks. Bad combo of the three.
 
I think we are making too much of the "guard tap on center."

The center, after getting tapped, usually waits a second or two...sometimes a little more to snap the ball. AU jumped off sides one time, giving us a 1st down by being off sides, trying to guess the timing of the snap. It doesn't give the defense as much of an advantage as some think, IMO.

The reason they do it is because the center can't hear the QB clap. The guard watches and when Ty claps he taps the center and then he snaps at his discretion.
 
I know that what I am about to say is going to be controversial, and is probably not a great take since I don't have experience in a college football locker room and the dynamics that exist in one. I'm also have no football coaching experience.

With that said, I don't know that Ty gives us the best opportunity to win Saturday. I said it during and immediately after the game Saturday night that we should consider a QB change because he is clearly hurt and is limited. I do think he should start on Saturday, but if he is limited because of injuries, which I believe are to his back, then I think he should be on a short leash.

We need Ty as healthy as he can be for the playoffs because I know that he's our best QB when he's healthy. How healthy he can be come playoff time is unknown. So much of our offense is predicated on an efficient passing game, and Ty just can't make great throws right now over 15 yards. With a limited running game and now limited passing game, our offense is trying to thread a needle in generating enough offense to win.
 
This is the one that bothered me the most and the one I see the most often. We'd have the numbers on the OL and still have a free rusher. I wonder if we have some guys who have the physical ability but simply can't connect it between the ears during games? I'm not saying anyone is "dumb", I'm just saying I've seen this type of stuff ALL SEASON LONG, where guys are just making obvious mistakes on reads and assignments. You get to a point as a coach where you can coach, coach and coach and there are players who simply can't mentally "get it" during games. We're still making WAAAAY too many fundamental mistakes on the OL for this late in the season.

This has been frustrating for sure.

Some of it has been just having new dudes or dudes in different places. Carroll for example has a high ceiling, but realistically is/was still learning. He tends to 'lock in' on something and not keep his head on a swivel to be able to help where needed. Formby moving from T to G frequently isn't the best thing from always knowing what to do when.

Some of it is the revolving door we've had at the OG spots. We've played Dewberry, Roberts, Sanders, GVM and Formby on a consistent basis. That hurts chemistry, a lot.

A small part of the interior pressure is directly on Brailsford even though it does not get attributed to him. He gets almost no drop in pass pro, which leaves a bigger gap between him and the OGs drops than should be there, this is especially true when he doesn't have a heads up block. He needs to get a step or two deeper to be able to help out and potentially be able to see some of the late blitzers coming, and doesn't do it.

Finally, some of it is the calls at the LOS; with a bit on Ty and the rest on Brailsford. We've had multiple times where the protection has slid to one side of the line, but the numbers ended up coming from the other side. On INT Ty threw against OU, we had Brailsford, the LG and Proctor all blocking ONE GUY, and three rushers came from the other side against Formby and Carroll.
 
I still dont understand why Coach Grubb's, pretty much abandoned the running game, after our OLine was pounding The Barn good running the ball & then we went to an "Air Raid" type play calling..

Too win at this level you have too run the ball & this coaching staff isn't committed too running the ball..

I may be wrong that's what I saw Saturday despite us winning the game.
 
I still dont understand why Coach Grubb's, pretty much abandoned the running game, after our OLine was pounding The Barn good running the ball & then we went to an "Air Raid" type play calling..

Too win at this level you have too run the ball & this coaching staff isn't committed too running the ball..

I may be wrong that's what I saw Saturday despite us winning the game.

DeBoer isn't stupid, and there's NO WAY the running game and offensive line doesn't get "special attention" this offseason. I hope going into the offseason reporters specifically ask "what are you going to do about the OL and running game this offseason to improve it?"

If after two years he hasn't come to realize that being able to run the ball and have a strong OL in the SEC isn't a must have, I don't know that he'll ever learn. It is a minor miracle that we won 10 games and made it to the SECCG with how bad it was between the two.
 
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This has been frustrating for sure.

Some of it has been just having new dudes or dudes in different places. Carroll for example has a high ceiling, but realistically is/was still learning. He tends to 'lock in' on something and not keep his head on a swivel to be able to help where needed. Formby moving from T to G frequently isn't the best thing from always knowing what to do when.

Some of it is the revolving door we've had at the OG spots. We've played Dewberry, Roberts, Sanders, GVM and Formby on a consistent basis. That hurts chemistry, a lot.

A small part of the interior pressure is directly on Brailsford even though it does not get attributed to him. He gets almost no drop in pass pro, which leaves a bigger gap between him and the OGs drops than should be there, this is especially true when he doesn't have a heads up block. He needs to get a step or two deeper to be able to help out and potentially be able to see some of the late blitzers coming, and doesn't do it.

Finally, some of it is the calls at the LOS; with a bit on Ty and the rest on Brailsford. We've had multiple times where the protection has slid to one side of the line, but the numbers ended up coming from the other side. On INT Ty threw against OU, we had Brailsford, the LG and Proctor all blocking ONE GUY, and three rushers came from the other side against Formby and Carroll.

There's just too many things contributing to the problem. If it's not Ty changing into a play with the wrong blocking assignment, it's players not playing in one spot long enough to get used to what they're supposed to do, etc. I get rotating players and OL combinations, but at some point, there needs to be a set line for an extended period of time and not constant rotation.

But I still think part of the problem is we have too many guys who can't do what is being asked, whether it be physically, mentally or both. And it's not lost on me that some of this may be a coaching issue as well. I'm just tired of it being as bad as it has been. It's ridiculous that the University of Alabama struggles with putting a competent offensive line on the field.
 
DeBoer isn't stupid, and there's NO WAY the running game and offensive line doesn't get "special attention" this offseason. I hope going into the offseason reporters specifically ask "what are you going to do about the OL and running game this offseason to improve it?"

If after two years he hasn't come to realize that being able to run the ball and have a strong OL in the SEC isn't a must have, I don't know that he'll ever learn. It is a minor miracle that we won 10 games and made it to the SECCG with how bad it was between the two.
Exactly & agree a million percent brother, I can't wrap my head around or understand it, we were running the ball reallyyyy good, as well as we have all year, then we just stopped running the ball hardly at all the rest of the game..

That's a coaching staff offensive philosophy problem, more so than a talent issue, after the 1st quarter we looked more like a Coach Leach(RIP) air raid type offense & it made it harder on ourselves to pull off an win..JMO
 
I’m still mad at how much dangerous play AU was able to get away with on Ty. They did get a roughing penalty one time, but throughout the game they weren’t trying to tackle him, they were trying to hurt him. The last tackle on Ty is case in point. Ty is already down, falling on his back, and an AU defender grabs him around the neck from behind and tries to suplex him head first into the turf. That should have been a PF and ejection imo. Completely uncalled for and was not part of the initial tackle.
 
DeBoer isn't stupid, and there's NO WAY the running game and offensive line doesn't get "special attention" this offseason. I hope going into the offseason reporters specifically ask "what are you going to do about the OL and running game this offseason to improve it?"

If after two years he hasn't come to realize that being able to run the ball and have a strong OL in the SEC isn't a must have, I don't know that he'll ever learn. It is a minor miracle that we won 10 games and made it to the SECCG with how bad it was between the two.
I agree with you 100%. That said, we have the best regular season conference record and will play in the SEC Championship Game the day after tomorrow. I am not saying we don't need to work on a lot of stuff because clearly we do. But a win on Saturday fills another spot on the trophy shelf and we would have punched our ticket to the playoff. All of this with a bad offensive line and banged up running backs that can't find the hole. Clean that up and we are back to juggernaut status, which is where we need to get back to.
 
Exactly & agree a million percent brother, I can't wrap my head around or understand it, we were running the ball reallyyyy good, as well as we have all year, then we just stopped running the ball hardly at all the rest of the game..

That's a coaching staff offensive philosophy problem, more so than a talent issue, after the 1st quarter we looked more like a Coach Leach(RIP) air raid type offense & it made it harder on ourselves to pull off an win..JMO

Honestly... Grubb has been much more uneven than I thought we would be with him.

And definitely agree that you have to find your 5 best on the OL and play them together. Team work and consistency is key there. If you want to change a guy out, he needs to practice there for the week and play the spot for a whole game for the most part.
 
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I don't know if anyone else here has seen it but there has been a lot of negative talk about Grubb from Seahawks people recently. Not all of it is concrete but it does make me wonder a bit since some of the criticism is similar to how I have felt about him.

Also, would definitely agree with our RBs failing in pass blocking. It's been horrific all year. We may need a new RB coach or something.
I know there’s technique in everything, but in large measure blocking is as much or more” want to “ . BUT ain’t no glory or money in it these days, I guess.
 
I know that what I am about to say is going to be controversial, and is probably not a great take since I don't have experience in a college football locker room and the dynamics that exist in one. I'm also have no football coaching experience.

With that said, I don't know that Ty gives us the best opportunity to win Saturday. I said it during and immediately after the game Saturday night that we should consider a QB change because he is clearly hurt and is limited. I do think he should start on Saturday, but if he is limited because of injuries, which I believe are to his back, then I think he should be on a short leash.

We need Ty as healthy as he can be for the playoffs because I know that he's our best QB when he's healthy. How healthy he can be come playoff time is unknown. So much of our offense is predicated on an efficient passing game, and Ty just can't make great throws right now over 15 yards. With a limited running game and now limited passing game, our offense is trying to thread a needle in generating enough offense to win.
I posted in the barn game thread that I wondered if giving Mack a shot might not be helpful. DeBoer has forgotten more about managing a team than I'll ever know, but Mack seems to be a very capable backup and might be the spark needed to lift the team.
 
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