South Alabama to start 1-A football in 2009

B'hamBlazers

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I challenge you to find any credible source that indicates ANY high school in this state that averaged 16,000+ per game. Please do, and let me know. The ONLY reason attendance was that low was because of the whole 2-10 record you know... or maybe it was the 60 scholarship players... or maybe it was that UAB fielded the YOUNGEST team in the NCAA. Last year, UAB averaged nearly 24,000... and that was with a 3-9 record.

You think USA will average 16,000+ with a 2-10 record? Give me some of what you're smoking because it must be magic.
 
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BAMA1979

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I challenge you to find any credible source that indicates ANY high school in this state that averaged 16,000+ per game.

You think USA will average 16,000+ with a 2-10 record? Give me some of what you're smoking because it must be magic.
I think the high school comment was meant as a joke.

I don't think USA will have an average attendance of 16,000. I can't imagine many people going to Ladd Stadium for USA football when the USA basketball team(who plays in probably the finest arena in the state) draws only 3,000-3,500 for most games.

I also don't believe for a second that UAB has 16,000 people per game. They may have sold that many tickets, but there are definitely not 16,000 people in attendance at each game.
 
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B'hamBlazers

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I think the high school comment was meant as a joke.

I don't think USA will have an average attendance of 16,000. I can't imagine many people going to Ladd Stadium for USA football when the USA basketball team(who plays in probably the finest arena in the state) draws only 3,000-3,500 for most games.

I also don't believe for a second that UAB has 16,000 people per game. They may have sold that many tickets, but there are definitely not 16,000 people in attendance at each game.
Well I don't personally believe that Alabama has 10,000 per game for basketball either, but that's what the box score usually reports. Everybody's their own expert on gauging attendance. Not surprisingly, those estimates of attendance are usually quite biased. At this point though, for a program like UAB or Troy, the most important number IS tickets sold. It doesn't matter if 80,000 are there if only 10,000 are buying tickets.
 

Dixiedawg

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The ONLY reason attendance was that low was because of the whole 2-10 record you know... or maybe it was the 60 scholarship players... or maybe it was that UAB fielded the YOUNGEST team in the NCAA. Last year, UAB averaged nearly 24,000... and that was with a 3-9 record.
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Hey you're the one who was spouting off attendance numbers, so I thought a trip back to reality was in order. Truth is USA has a mediocre basketball team even after moving to an on campus facillity. They have a pretty decent baseball team and have placed several players in the majors including Jake Peavy of recent note. So you don't know where they will end up football wise,but could do quite well depending on circumstances, just being in a large city does not mean you'll pull in folks by the droves as proven by UAB. Given that South shares geography with two of the largest counties in the state and is remote from the two football powers distance wise they could do as well as UAB. Oh yes by the way 24K is a few below the 92K Bama draws. So cut the Jags some slack as well as Mobile, we're not B'ham but we ain't chopped liver either.
 

BAMA1979

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At this point though, for a program like UAB or Troy, the most important number IS tickets sold. It doesn't matter if 80,000 are there if only 10,000 are buying tickets.
There will not be 16,000 people at the games, but I don't doubt that USA can sell 16,000 tickets per game. The two bowl games here certainly don't have a problem selling tickets.
 

B'hamBlazers

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Hey you're the one who was spouting off attendance numbers, so I thought a trip back to reality was in order. Truth is USA has a mediocre basketball team even after moving to an on campus facillity. They have a pretty decent baseball team and have placed several players in the majors including Jake Peavy of recent note. So you don't know where they will end up football wise,but could do quite well depending on circumstances, just being in a large city does not mean you'll pull in folks by the droves as proven by UAB. Given that South shares geography with two of the largest counties in the state and is remote from the two football powers distance wise they could do as well as UAB. Oh yes by the way 24K is a few below the 92K Bama draws. So cut the Jags some slack as well as Mobile, we're not B'ham but we ain't chopped liver either.
Who compared UAB's attendance to Alabama's? I never said UAB's was anywhere close to Alabama in football attendance... but given UAB was about 100 years AFTER Alabama in starting football, that's a bit expected. I'm not saying South Alabama is a horrible school. My dad is actually a graduate of South Alabama and I have a good bit of family in Mobile. But there's a time to be realistic, and frankly, I have trouble seeing how USA can draw the minimum 15,000 so quickly since they apparently plan to jump right into I-A status. UAB averages 15,000 now, but that didn't happen right away by any means. My problem is not with USA having football... it's with them trying to jump immediately to Division I.
 

BAMA1979

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But there's a time to be realistic, and frankly, I have trouble seeing how USA can draw the minimum 15,000 so quickly since they apparently plan to jump right into I-A status. UAB averages 15,000 now, but that didn't happen right away by any means. My problem is not with USA having football... it's with them trying to jump immediately to Division I.
Like you said, its not the draw that's really important, it's the number of tickets sold. USA can sell 15,000 tickets or whatever the number is that they need to sell. Now getting that many people into the stadium is a different story.
 

drjohn432

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As a USA alum and Mobile native, I will buy 10 tickets and make sure those seats are filled. Mobile has about 1.1 million people within a 70 mile radius of downtown. We can support a D-1 program better than B'ham or Montgomery, and certainly Troy. That being said, this will be an Alabama town 1st, and (unfortunately) Awbarn a close 2nd. They also have to be in D-1 to stay in the sunbelt.
 

KrAzY3

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As a USA alum and Mobile native, I will buy 10 tickets and make sure those seats are filled. Mobile has about 1.1 million people within a 70 mile radius of downtown. We can support a D-1 program better than B'ham or Montgomery, and certainly Troy. That being said, this will be an Alabama town 1st, and (unfortunately) Awbarn a close 2nd. They also have to be in D-1 to stay in the sunbelt.
For the record I live in Semmes and I will make sure to do absolutely nothing (including pay for tickets) to support the Jags having a football team. There's no way I can imagine this helping Alabama's team and as such I think it is over-saturating the state. I want the Mobile kids to go to a place with tradition and the ability to take them places, not play for some underfunded program in Mobile with 0 tradition. I'm a University of Alabama fan, I've supported Jags baseball and basketball but you can only have so many on a team anyway... I don't like the idea of the Jags taking even one potential recruit away from Alabama's football team.
 

Baltimore4Bama

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Make no mistake... USA Football will do well in Mobile. You can't make the basketball attendance argument here. Basketball is basketball. Football is next to godliness. USA has the money, the community and corporate support, and the local alumni base to make this happen. Mobile has 1,000,000 people within 50 miles. There's plenty of money and room for an on-campus stadium at USA.

There's a lot of local talent that would love to stay at home and play locally.

USA knows exactly what it's doing.
 

JPT4Bama

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This is silly.. :eek: just plain silly.

I believe the philosopher Descartes had USA's decision makers in mind when he said,

"Common sense is the best distributed commodity in the world, for every man is totally convinced he is well supplied with it!"

Why not put this money into further developing their Basketball and Baseball programs??
 

OldNavyTider

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B'ham Blazer:

You and your Blazer brethren, what few there are, keep using the same lame excuses on why UAB attendance sucks. The same lame excuse is because Bama is 50 miles down the road and Bama has been playing 100 years longer.

I go to a couple of UAB games every year because my wife is a 21 year UAB employee, by office politics she has to make an appearance at least at one home game a year, and I go with her because I don't want her to be by herself down by gangsta avenue down by crumbling Legion Field.

I can tell you in about 30 seconds why UAB attendance sucks. Bad football. The product sucks; including boring Conference USA. I went to the Alcorn State game this year and was bored out of my mind. I went to several games during the Watson Brown era and it was the same boring product. It's just bad football. AT UAB games, because of being bored, my mind would begin to wonder and think about the great Bama games and high school games played at Legion Field in the past.

UAB does a lousy job marketing the games, and UAB's schedule does itself in. This past year there was a month gap in scheduling home games. UAB puts itself on the road so much that local fans forget there's a UAB football team in town.

15,000 average per home game: If there is consistently 15,000 people in the stands at UAB home games I'll kiss your grits. 15,000 tickets may get sold, but 15,000 fannys aren't always in those seats. Paul Finebaum reported on his show a month or so ago that there may have been 3,500 people in the stands, at Legion Field, during the Southern Miss game.

Before making excuses for your boys you need to look in your own back yard for the solutions instead of doing the normal UAB thing; pointing the finger at Alabama.
 
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I went to South a semester before transfering to Alabama. Funny to think they are going to get one. It was a little inside joke there that you were on the football team, or going to the game, or whatever, when I was a student.

They should be 1-AA or whatever for 4-5 years, whatever UNA is. There is enought compition in the state for them. Once they become a Georgia Southern like team, if thats possible, then go D-1. Please don't jump in with both feet and ruin the program's rep right off the bat.

What Baltimore4Bama said.
 

CrimsonSnake

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Well I don't personally believe that Alabama has 10,000 per game for basketball either, but that's what the box score usually reports. Everybody's their own expert on gauging attendance. Not surprisingly, those estimates of attendance are usually quite biased. At this point though, for a program like UAB or Troy, the most important number IS tickets sold. It doesn't matter if 80,000 are there if only 10,000 are buying tickets.
Attendance these days in the NCAA realm is based upon tickets sold, not butts in the seats. The attendance figure for the ULM game at B-D Stadium is most likely a sell out, even though we know the staium was not full. So if a school like USA, or UAB, or Troy can get a company like Movie Gallery to buy a bunch of tickets to try and get them started, then they can up their average 'attendance.'
 
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